EPISODE · Dec 5, 2025 · 11 MIN
Wicked And The Politics of Revolution
from The Bitchuation Room · host Francesca Fiorentini
Is Glinda a centrist? Is Elphaba a revolutionary leader or did she fail? And how does the story of Elphaba and Glinda working together teach us some lessons for fighting fascism in a very unmagical place: present-day United States. Francesca unpacks the political allegories in Wicked, beyond Oz’s anti-animal fascism, to look at how the allyship between Glinda and Elphaba mirrors characters within the Democratic Party. Elphaba is a bit Bernie-esque, while Glinda is quite Kamala-coded. But Elphaba and Glinda and also kind of remind us of revolutionary duos throughout history like MLK Jr. and Malcolm X, Gandhi and Nehru, or Fidel Castro and Che Guevara. Changemakers who worked toward justice both inside and outside of their political systems, to bring change to their people. Who knows if they made change for the better, but they made change … for good ;) *Become a paying patron to get Francesca's exclusive behind the scenes & extra frants* Support these deep dive episodes by becoming a patron https://www.patreon.com/bitchuationroom. You can also be a member on YouTube, Twitch, or a paid subscriber on substack: franifio.substack.com. See Francesca LIVE PASADENA Saturday December 13th, 7:30pm, The Ice House https://www.showclix.com/event/new-world-disorder-12-13-25-7-30-pm Get 20% off SUNSET LAKE CBD with code FRANTIFA at check out. Explore all their organic, vertically-integrated craft CBD products including tinctures, gummies, smokables, salves and more: https://www.sunsetlakecbd.com *** Tip the show: Venmo: @TBR-LIVE Cash-App: @TBRLIVE Get your union-made TBR merch: www.bitchuationroom.com *** Thanks to Brent Godin, Paige Oamek, & Andy Vasoyan *** Follow The Bitchuation Room on Twitter @BitchuationPod BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.social Check Out The Bitchuation Room Podcast on: iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuation Google Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuation Stitcher: http://bit.ly/stitcherbitchuation Spotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuation Find Francesca On: Substack: franifio.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifio YouTube: The Bitchuation Room’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/franifio Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/franifio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Insta: https://www.instagram.com/franifio/ Watch The Bitchuation Room LIVE on Tuesdays 1pm PT/4pmET on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/franifio or Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/franifio.Listen to the show on:iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuationGoogle Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuationSpotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuationFollow the show on:BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.socialIG: https://www.instagram.com/bitchuationroom/Twitter: https://x.com/BitchuationPodFollow Francesca on:IG: https://www.instagram.com/franifio/Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifioBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/franifio.bsky.socialThreads: https://www.threads.com/@franifioFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Is Glinda a centrist? Is Elphaba a revolutionary leader or did she fail? And how does the story of Elphaba and Glinda working together teach us some lessons for fighting fascism in a very unmagical place: present-day United States. Francesca unpacks the political allegories in Wicked, beyond Oz’s anti-animal fascism, to look at how the allyship between Glinda and Elphaba mirrors characters within the Democratic Party. Elphaba is a bit Bernie-esque, while Glinda is quite Kamala-coded. But Elphaba and Glinda and also kind of remind us of revolutionary duos throughout history like MLK Jr. and Malcolm X, Gandhi and Nehru, or Fidel Castro and Che Guevara. Changemakers who worked toward justice both inside and outside of their political systems, to bring change to their people. Who knows if they made change for the better, but they made change … for good ;) *Become a paying patron to get Francesca's exclusive behind the scenes & extra frants* Support these deep dive episodes by becoming a patron https://www.patreon.com/bitchuationroom. You can also be a member on YouTube, Twitch, or a paid subscriber on substack: franifio.substack.com. See Francesca LIVE PASADENA Saturday December 13th, 7:30pm, The Ice House https://www.showclix.com/event/new-world-disorder-12-13-25-7-30-pm Get 20% off SUNSET LAKE CBD with code FRANTIFA at check out. Explore all their organic, vertically-integrated craft CBD products including tinctures, gummies, smokables, salves and more: https://www.sunsetlakecbd.com *** Tip the show: Venmo: @TBR-LIVE Cash-App: @TBRLIVE Get your union-made TBR merch: www.bitchuationroom.com *** Thanks to Brent Godin, Paige Oamek, & Andy Vasoyan *** Follow The Bitchuation Room on Twitter @BitchuationPod BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.social Check Out The Bitchuation Room Podcast on: iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuation Google Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuation Stitcher: http://bit.ly/stitcherbitchuation Spotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuation Find Francesca On: Substack: franifio.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifio YouTube: The Bitchuation Room’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/franifio Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/franifio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Insta: https://www.instagram.com/franifio/
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