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Will the Boston Celtics Win the Title This Year?

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That's only happened one other time. Three was going to see James. Yeah, either. What's going on?

Five, six. We got a little kid, they call. We probably had. We had a little kid.

That cowboy song, yeah. Yeah, something on the way. Yeah, I'm gonna find a video. It's funny, because it would have been wild.

He was he had on like The video is crazy. I remember that. You sure that one? That's what I was gonna ask.

He was the first time I was out there, everybody. My car was? Yeah. Oh, okay.

One of the last days when he said I had to do him, he was with his crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yep. Yep. Yep. What up, Rob?

I'm the cat. Alex Hayes got through the 92 big loop. Appreciate you guys. Head over to him.

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I think what's that other one? War or something? No, not that one either. I don't know.

Jalen, what is it? Ah, yeah, it looks like Fortnite. Yeah. But yeah.

Yeah. Oh, they're not definitely playing that shit. That Fortnite shit was too crazy for me, bro. Yeah, I saw like my nephew like two minutes of playing that shot.

Oh, Fortnite? Yeah. Yeah, no, that's the one that's the one that's the one that's yeah. Yeah.

Wait for me. Right. Well, you guys are not here to listen to us talk about that. We're here to talk about sports.

So let's get into it. This is the place where sports means a lot of dentists sports and we're also going to be joining the show. We have people who shelter in the city and spike. What up, though?

Yeah, we thank you guys. Make sure you guys hit the subscribe button hit the like button, leave a comment and show the show with, you know, your French cohort, colleague, temporary everybody. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't like somebody on the show, share it and tell them why you don't like it.

Yeah. So, yeah, you did hang on. Yeah. Yeah.

So, um, let's go ahead and jump right into it. We got some NFL news. To the phone. I was a little straight.

Oh, Russell Wilson. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

That's when you know you made it while we had all the bros. Yeah. Yeah. That's when you know you made it while we had all the bros.

Yeah. The girlfriends. Yeah. Those are names.

But yeah, the Broncos are going to release them. And Kirk Cousins run as a liking is about to come to it in as well. So what do you guys think they should go? Well, let's talk about the how historic this event.

We're talking the most dead money ever in the history of the 85 million. Do you? You must really don't like it. I'm going to say, you know how, how much you got?

You got to hate a nigga to give you a nigga to give you a nigga. 85 million. That is for us. And they got to love you because you got to, you need what four years of our release.

And it's a nice to be here. They got a little sharp. For real. They do.

They do. But you know, it's Sean Payton. He's a household name. So you can't get rid of him.

You got to take the less of the two evils, you know, send the quarterback because we seen Sean Payton when he saw what it looked like with Russell Wilson. I felt like Russell Wilson had a solid season. It wasn't, you know, I wouldn't characterize it as a superstar season, but it was definitely a bounce back season. And their issues weren't necessarily because of him.

You know what I'm saying? So we'll see how Sean Payton bounces back on can where do they go from here? You got to go young. You got to go draft your guy.

The Broncos. You know, you go get you a veteran. You know, I know, obviously Kirk Cousins is on the market. Kirk Cousins is a Sean Payton type of quarterback, meaning that he's not going to force too many things.

He's going to think and dunk. He's going to, he's going to play strong paint football. I jump off a three to the Broncos. I'm going to go get Kirk Cousins.

But because of his system. Yeah, and Kirk Cousins had a really good year this year. I'm not taking anything away from Kirk Cousins. I'm just saying that's not, that's not a, like, that's not a fix to get rid of and eat 80 million dollars.

Not Kirk Cousins. guy in a draft like you said, which I agree with, or I'm going to do something different than what I just tried to get work and I was. But here's the thing though, where the Broncos are, I'm not saying that they can win the AFC West, but they can be extremely competitive. They can be one of those teams that you don't want to see come play a time in the wildcard.

Right. The quarterback that gives you that is Kurt Cousins. You still, I'm not saying you don't draft your guy. You just make, you're, you're probably not gonna get the guy you really want.

Right. So it's gonna be either in the second or third round that you may get a quarterback, let him sit a year behind Kurt Cousins because you can compete with Kurt. It's not like this roster is the Carolina Panthers. You know, I say where you need everything.

This team is. Huh? I said, I said, you got, um, I'm gonna get a guy. Maybe like Pennix.

You got to be like, you got to be draft. See, I don't like going to steal. Yeah, you got a deep draft for quarterback. But once again, you got to ask yourself how ready is this team to win?

This is not a bad team. It's not at all. So that's, that's the reason why you can stretch with the Kurt Cousins. Once again, Kurt Cousins has had a great season.

We see we don't know if I'm not ready to win. I know just don't somebody else. I'm saying already win. They have players in place to win.

You signed in the third basketball to back into this. I would rather if I'm going to make the switch and let me go ahead and get my doing, get him in there and get started. I think you said that. Like go ahead and get into the earth.

You can say that. You know, don't get him in early. No, I just said that. I just go get a Kurt Cousins.

It's still not about another situation. As far as if you know, you find a good quarterback, one just talented, one of you like Sean Payton guy, I would rather go ahead and get him now versus kicking the can down the road and all we got. Okay, Ross, we can go against the person. I would be going against Patrick Mahomes, bro.

I would not sign a Kurt Cousins to sign up to play those down. Well, see, that's the thing. And I understand what you're saying because I'm not a Kurt Cousins. You fan.

I'm just looking at a year. You had and if you have that Ross, you see what he does with George Jefferson. You know, he, they break in records. No, but they do.

And he doesn't get a lot of credit. But at the same time, he's one is doing it. He's part of it. The tandem.

So you put him in a situation like that with those receivers. They got out there because they got some guys, you know, Patrick's hurt. And you know, they got some, they got some nice little pieces, Jamar, we've been in the backfield. You can, you can win now.

That defense is out. Thank you. We see what the defense does. They signed up for something next for you.

Who's Jordan Jefferson? Just, just, just on the Broncos. No, just on the, oh, no, no, they don't have, they don't have a Jefferson on the Broncos. Right.

They have Chris, but Chris side had a big year. Yes. I just good. Court, and then they have Patrick, the other receiving then.

Oh boy, Judy. Hey, that's the thing. If her cousin got to throw in the Justin, Justin, clean up some of those mistakes, bro. I mean, cousin look a little bit better than what he probably really is right now.

Oh, he does. But they did. Jordan Anderson, it was like, but Kirk Cousins is still viable for the Viking. They're not all the way, you know, inking to letting them go like that.

They want to see what they want to see. He's going to go back. He's going to go back. Is what this report is coming out of this.

We're talking about the way to be crazy. Me. So, yeah, I shot this as far as you know, about what you go Kirk Cousins, what's the list for? Man, it's the thing to do.

If you need to be trying to get Justin, feel the way to Chicago. Chicago's hands and time where we're going to get to that. I guess their hands are tied. They got it.

They got it. They got a graphic quarterback at this point because who's going to trade with anybody who's going to trade and get what they want to pick. And the league is putting their feet to the fire. They're going to draft a quarterback.

You don't want to miss. We talked about it last week to generate some talent. You cannot miss a generational talent and go on. This has the opportunity to be that in K-L-Wiz.

You can't let that go past you. I think and it's in it. The Falcons need to go ahead and pick up Justin Fields, my third round draft pick and keep him running. It's because it gives you the most.

We've been, I talked about this last year or going into that last season, was that they have the most movable guys, the most positionalist guys in football. And we knew that the head coach and the OC didn't take advantage of that. The John didn't get the ball the way he needed to get the ball. Kyle Pissed to get the ball the way he needed to get the ball.

And I'm not saying that Justin feels his other world lead. But what I'm saying is what all of the wrinkles that you can run because we saw Russell Wills' legs ain't what they used to be. Not saying that he can't still create hold the ball and go down field. He can still do that.

He still throws one of the prettiest lead passes in the lead. But Justin Fields gives you a dynamic that we haven't had since the beginning. What were you guys saying that you would take Justin Fields over Russell Wills' and Kurt Kuz, and possibly over the end, give up a throw around. That's insane.

You see what Justin Fields can do. He's showing you what he can do. But all shows show you what he can do. Russell Wills' has a Super Bowl.

They may not have worked out in Denver. You want to use it. That play don't exist. Wait, wait, wait.

Let me wear it to Justin Fields. What are you saying? I would take either Kurt Kuz and or Russell Wills' or his draft before the back. Kurt Kuz is maybe because he's a lead edition.

But Russell Wills' and L. No. I think Russell Wills' and they claim that he's willing to take advantage of him. He's coming in at that price.

I'm not taking it. I don't know. Justin Fields has a higher ceiling right now. Justin Fields potential has not been tapped or expanded in all these years in Chicago.

What Atlanta has in terms of weaponry, we're allowed to unlock that. And then we will know, hey, this is either could be our guy or he's not the guy. Russell Wills' said we know what he is and he's on the decline. He's going along the marker and ascending acid.

I don't know that that's not better than what you think you're going to be. What I'm saying is right now, the ceiling is much higher. You're saying that because you think that he got a bad rap in Chicago. We know it.

The Broncos ready to go to the playoffs. No, I didn't know it. Because Sean Payne doesn't like him and he put him on the bench. He'll be there before they come back.

They want him to change his contract and say, oh, we're going to pay you if you get hurt. That's true. We saw what we saw when he looked like at the time. He made him all here plays at best.

We can hope Russell Wills' can be a big, make a main field. That's the best thing you can hope for. That's the point that happens to play up. You're right.

That's what I'm saying. But that's it. That's the limitation you get. Spike Green put this out there because you know, Chateau Chosnik on a couple of other people in the NFL that hasn't his side has said that the most likely scenario for Russell Wills' is Pittsburgh.

I feel that Pittsburgh is a way better fit than what Atlanta is. Reason being is that he doesn't have to come in there and be the culture. What happened in Denver when he was trying to be the coach? That's right.

You wrote the hell up out of here. You know what I'm saying? You go to Pittsburgh. We already know what the voice of that entire organization is.

It's Mike Thomas and we are going to win and we have a defense and we have weapons. They have two running backs. Pull up. They got a tight end and they got wide receivers.

We saw Pickens. Can you pick it? Can you get the ball to him? Can you get the ball to George Pickens?

We saw the end of the year pick. George Pickens, numbers started to rise because they started to feature more. We already know what Russell Wills' brings. He's going to bring you leadership.

He's going to bring you stability. Right? That's what the fans need. No.

The fans need a playmaker. He's no one. That's the playmakers before. That's what I'm saying.

Everybody you name, they're the playmakers and I just, I don't let you finish. Is it a personality thing? I was saying that Russell Wills' doesn't know how to play football. No.

No. Russell, he's on a decline. He's on a decline. He's on a decline.

He's entirely in two fields. Here's the other thing too. Both Russell Wills' and Kirk Cousins are two-year players. Okay.

You're not. That's what I'm saying. But Justin Fields, if Justin Fields could tap into his potential, which talked another 10-year quarterback for three years. Okay.

And sometimes, Spike, it takes a little bit of time. Like, you can tap into his potential last year. Like, y'all think he had a decent game. Three games.

You saw a game? Russell Wills, y'all said, suck. They almost went to the playoffs. Why wouldn't I take Russell Wills'?

Because who was the head coach? Who? In the Broncos. So I'm talking.

And who was it? Y'all have to be when I called him? Tell my coach. He's not.

I didn't know. I agree with you. I agree with you. So at the end of the day, when Russell Wills' didn't have a top five coach where they look like, not the playoff.

But he had the worst coach. All right. And we saw what he did. So how can you not apply that to Chicago?

What do you, wait, wait, how can you not apply being having a good quarterback with a back coach and not winning game? Well, Chicago didn't fire their coach. That's what I'm saying. Like, Chicago is acting like he need to go.

Exactly. He was just good with Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert made the playoffs one year. Then back to over 5,000 yards.

And we don't complain about Justin Herbert. That's a terrible coach too. Exactly. Where he at?

Gone. Right. So what I'm saying is, Spike, if we could apply that logic, apply that logic to Justin Fields, they get that man to benefit the back coach. Because they're coaching him for whatever reason.

That's what I'm saying. That's crazy to say to your context. They kept the college. They kept the college.

They kept the college. They're doing the same organization. They're doing the same organization. They're doing the battle organization.

Black quarterback is different standards for black quarterback. We all know that. That's true. He's looked at differently because he's an athletic quarterback.

Yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it.

Yeah, I'll do it. No, we're saying that there's other better fits. Yeah. The fact is, I'll say I'll take this.

He's not his movement. Yeah. Yes. Because of the situation, the situation in Atlanta is this.

They have a very young court. AJ Torell isn't going into a sport year. We're talking about copies going into a sport year. We're talking about the wide receiver that they just took two years ago.

The job is a year in. This is a young court. And you're telling me that you would bring in an unproven leader somewhere who your only ability you're talking about. And a rookie head coach.

And this is the dude we're going to give our franchise to. Questions, Spike. How many years Russell Wilson has left? Maybe three.

Two. So in those two to three years, what are your goals? They should be trying to get rid of you better on the bench. Not the way that's going to be.

Russell. Oh, if I bring Russell in, we win in the NFC South. No, no, no, no, no. Maybe not the Super Bowl.

But the team that Russell leaves in year two or three would be ready when that next quarterback takes over. The jump. But you lose those guys. Alex Smith to my home jump.

Yeah, but all that young talent you got right now in those rookie deals. They'll be gone. If anything, I would say her cousins will probably be a little bit more efficient with those weapons with the right OC them than Russell Wilson. I would be more apt to listen to that than I would say.

I would take this appeal. That's why I say it depends. If you and when I'm old with the young talent and you can go ahead and just you got enough cap space to sign a guy or prove it that they can come in, which is sound like what you're trying to do. Then her cousins will probably be a better fit.

I would do that. So look, I would take cousins over Wilson. Yes. As a general manager, it's your job to think about the president and the future.

Right. With a very big emphasis on the future. If you sign her cousins to a two year deal and you get right, you're more than likely going to be in the playoff or the playoff. Right.

Like that's minimum. That's home game. Minimum expectation. Where does that put you in the draft to draft that guy?

Right. If you give up a third round pick for Justin Fields that has the way. Hold on. Hold on.

Let's take a look at your hands. Be able to speak. So let me speak. If you give up a third round pick, sometimes the round pick is going to make the rush sometimes right for a guy with a potential to be a 10 year quarterback or at the very least you let him walk and still have your first ball pick for the next season to drop higher and get the guy.

How does that not make the most sense around where I'm playing potential right now? But if it don't work, guess what? We have a good draft pick. He can go.

We ain't got to sign him. Because I don't know what he's doing. That's what I don't know. That's the point.

I'm like, Justin Fields in. I don't know that I went into NFC South. Exactly. If I bring a cousins or if I bring a cousins, I know that.

But Spike, but if you lose it, you get a high pick. And just like, I was saying, I wasted a three. What's a good pick, bro. Not for a potential quarterback.

That could be a 10 year quarterback. Not for that. You use a third round pick on the, you know what Justin Fields is as far as I don't know. You know what the context is?

You know what this is? Now, what you've been drinking these last time? Jay Jay McCarthy is going to give you Jesse Fields way too much. They put Jay Jay McCarthy as a first round pick, now they're grading him as a bird.

Are you going to do with Justin Fields? Yeah. So how is Jay Jay McCarthy in comparison? No, I'm asking him how I'm asking him.

Sorry. I'll tell you that too. So he's the first time he's been taking Justin Fields couldn't be a third round. Well, if Alka's gonna take McCarthy, McCarty would have his name.

I'm not gonna take him in the first round. Even if they took him in the first round. Even if he was drafting the second round, he's already moved up because they already talked about it. That's what they're saying.

It's like I said, they're saying he's the first round. He's gonna be the same thing as that. He's not doing it. Like he may be being evaluated high, but I think y'all are doing the same thing with Jesse Fields.

Based off glimpses of stuff that you've seen in Chicago, but we've seen him long enough to know that he's not a winner. He's not a winner. I just can't say this. I know that I know that he's why we've been able to say he watched him last season.

Yeah. And I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him.

He moves all of those football games in a row. That's what I was gonna say. We said that's what I was gonna say. We said Jackson won the whole.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a big game. Wends and losses though.

That's a great, great quarterback. Better coach and better defense. He's great quarterbacks off wins and losses, right? How do they get those wins and losses?

Not everything that you guys say, but the end of the day, who gets the blame for the wins and losses? The coaches on the quarter, that's the question. You got to shoot with a lot of players out of the way. No, but you're doing an evaluation.

You going back with the whole thing and I'm gonna see the fact that he had classes in those games because I watch a lot of those Bears games. The boy can play. The boy can play. It's just a matter of him getting in a situation where he can flourish and do what he needs to do.

He has talent. I don't know if he even played that time. You know who else can play with it? LeBron James, the first to score 40,000 points.

He accomplished that in a losing effort. Unfortunately, when and when I think they had the lead to, but you know, it is what it is. But yeah, 40,000, which is crazy. Got to mention other staff that care.

40,000 points, 11,000 rebounds, 10,000. And the reason why I say you got to mention that is because there's no other player in NBA history that even has 10,000 points, 10,000 rebounds, 10,000. When anybody comes close to doing well, LeBron, no, not even when we went. No, when we went to scoring, I don't think he's going to be a cyst.

No, let's, yeah, yeah. He's not going to be a cyst because I was going to score. But not the scoring can't be because honestly when we play in 20 plus years, no, that's what I was going to say. When you're when you seven, when you that I was six, you're going to be frasming.

You're going to be breaking down like we're getting. Yeah, then, um, when we can, I think he'll probably be up there, potentially like a rebalance and block, but scoring, I don't think he's going to play long enough. And here's the thing, you got to average 27 plus for 20 plus years and play 70 games a year to get 40,000. And here's the way, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so another guy, you got to average 27 points, play 70 plus games and play 20 plus years to get the 40,000.

Also, did you know this country? LeBron is the youngest to hit every scoring milestone. One thousand two thousand three thousand. The youngest player to ever do it.

I don't, I don't, I don't foresee anybody surpassing that. And the reason why I said that, look at how long it took anybody to get near a career. And he put, he pushing the number and he not slowing down. He's not slow.

Even if he comes back next year at 18, he's going to put this scoring record so far ahead that we're going to need somebody like Steph Curry to be step curry from day one. It's utterly ridiculous. Like where LeBron is putting some of these steps. That, you know, it was what came was I watching.

I think it was that comeback against the Clippers. And I'm like, how was he still doing this? You know, 16 times in his career, he's outscored in the fourth quarter by himself. Did you watch the game?

Spike? He was right up that city with you. Thank you. Watch the city.

Spike, you mean? It's like straight people are crazy. Straight ignore it. You Twitter, everybody was on my head.

It's your take to be crazy. You got to miss that. That's what I'm here for. But no, the bar on James is still like basketball.

I never said that. I just said people I showed up to see him. That's crazy as hell. The Clippers was that.

I didn't know her. Man, yeah, that was. He's on the face of the league, man. That's unfortunate.

But it's not that we're 21 years old. It's not. You're like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, as long as he played like that, I see why I can see why I can be unfortunate.

Because at this point, it should be somebody else at this point. But yeah, but at the same time, it's positive. But oh, he is out there. Only because he's still performing out of very high level.

Not if you don't feel the face of the NBA average in 12 points a game. That's different. And I would definitely argue to point that the NBA has a problem. But if LeBron is still LeBron, you're 21, that's actually really good for the NBA to say, look at KD.

Look at stuff. Look at even CP. We got older statesmen still performing at a very high level. So that talks to about the nutrition, the health, the player state of mind, all of that type of stuff.

The longevity of the player can be argued that it's wrong. And then the thing is, is that there are players that are up and coming. Jah, I still think in my personal opinion, and I talked to my brother today that runs the A.U. program.

And he's like, he still feels josh-ed to face a league because kids resonate with Jah. They don't resonate with Jens and they don't resonate with Ant like that. So I think once Jah gets back on the floor and we see how sensational he is, he puts the off the court stuff behind them. I think he's the one that rises to the top of the spectrum.

You know, those other guys are not really tapped into young kid culture, either. Or even in any kind of way, establish some type of connection to it. You know, as LeBron is known for, like, where was the video that people made fun of? The T-res, I think, you know, he does those sort of things that kind of make himself to a moment or a mean, but he's kind of locked in whether he's forcing it or not.

You know, I don't see Anthony Edwards out there like that. His biggest cultural moment came when he said show me the video. Was that it? Show me the video?

So like that? Is it? But, uh, Tatum? Nah, he's quiet.

Let's let's let's. So when you were talking, I was I was wondering, like, we know, we know that. Okay, so LeBron basically Steph Curry gets a lot of publicity, a lot of coverage. When you say Katie, first thing with the mic, I was like, man, people really talk.

Or the 10 players in the NBA right now that you're gonna put on Twitter and you'll see somebody talk about it. Joker, Steph, LeBron, and Luca. I see a lot of talk about Luca. 100% shake.

They trying to sell shit, but they need to stop. No, I say, oh, you say shake. Shake. Shake.

When I say shake. Shake it up there? Yeah. Yeah.

I've been saying, say it. Yeah. Okay. You know, this is a wild card, dark horse.

Tairies, Hallibur. Yeah, yes. Tairies Hallibur moves the cultural needle around the tournament. Turn it around.

You gotta follow up a little bit. It's better. Okay. And B was another one that they'll cover.

These are people that moves the needle. Okay. Like, you know, when I have an crazy game, people are buzzing. I do.

Yeah, I'm with don't move. I do. So yes, yes, no, yes. Like, yes and no, because Kyrie has crazy moments.

But this is also another crazy side about Kyrie. Kyrie is at the top 10 in Iso basketball. And he's actually, I think he's either number one or number three, the most efficient Iso basketball player in the NBA. He's also one of three players this year averaging 25.25 plus points per game while shooting less than five free kills.

He's averaging three and a half free kills a game. So that just shows you the kairi is the season. But he don't move them because because Kyrie will have like one or two wild moments in a game. But we're not necessarily talking about the whole game.

Like, oh, did you see Kyrie dominate the whole game? Nah. But it's like, oh, did you see this layup? Like, when we was at the bar for B, he had his one crazy same size.

It's like, what do you do? Yeah. Yes and no. Yeah.

And they, you know, Kyrie is kind of, you know, hit a miss with the media. You know what's going on? Yeah. Yeah.

Um, the wrong way unfortunately. So they kind of, they'll cover when he does some crazy waves out of it. They will be like, no, we ain't gonna give you any shot bro. Trey is starting to fall off in terms of getting that attention.

Um, the way that I see it. Yeah. Cause you know what? Can't look think about it.

name is like, Oh yeah, they name is. But we did mention, Giannis. We do mention. We did mention, Giannis just mention.

Trey Young hasn't has it had a big platform in terms of the game. Since the New York series. Since he've been losing? Yeah.

It's like, he ain't doing anything special. You gotta go crazy. You got to do some crazy when you're losing. You gotta be, you gotta keep your name and spotlight.

So, you know, it's like the minish. Yeah, no, they traded look with him. I mean, even though I've been like, it worked out, but but look with him crazy. What about Bronson?

Now he's running. Bronson. No, I don't know about you. Don't forget about Bronson Nick.

Yeah. That's what I say. He's supposed to open it. No, he's doing it.

No, the nicks, but not like the name from the nicks. Yeah. That's it. I said, I think he's probably.

I think I think when he's number he's like in the top five, I would say. Yeah, 100%. Because we never seen this shit, bro. I just I don't believe we're gonna watch it.

He's K.D. with like six, seven inches on the bottom. Like it's it's it's. I was like, I was like, I was like, he's like that.

He's like that. He is. But now we ain't ever seen a motherfucker like when we do this shit, he do it. Can I tell everybody before you guys.

I ain't never seen he moves like a dog. You whereas you was you was definitely saying that you and my co-host A.D. was the first to it. I was like, yeah, I was talking about how he was going to be that dude moving different way.

I will come into Delta. Yeah, man. It's just the way it's the way he moves. It's just he moves like a but he's not stiff.

He's the same. He brings it all to the neutralleg disciplined merits of the race. And they're like, I'm not that interesting and I was extremely fluid step back firepowerty, with the rock. You know what I'm saying?

I'm like, in don't matter. Like he legit has a crazy back seven, six. And there's a confidence about him, too, like, yeah. It looks like he's been playing for like years and people go ł cz Unv nods me What can you do with you know the defense is crazy last I take him there for blocks tonight So you know you're gonna block five shots again.

Yep. Why do you do with it? Can we ain't never seen nothing like this? But the only the best defender for him is his teammate Here's what we need to do though, right?

We need to stop this right now. We need to stop trying to sell a chat versus They played against each other like Man stop it. Yeah, stop trying to sell us chat bro. Take that we know we don't care about check You've been trying to sell his chances college is a draft You know why they'll care because why because he white no yes, no, it's not because he's white it is It's because he's the only American born player that is a comp for when be at all.

Yeah, think about it American boy, so is Bobo over. Oh, you said American 100% he's caught like in body style right? What I was pro-wimby, I was crazy. I was pro-wimby So I'm still pro-wimby what I'm saying the comp is that's the only person that he can compare to but the skill isn't the same Right, it's just trying to build it up so it's a The end of the day if those two teams played in the playoffs who's gonna guard what we gonna guard check they go Party that's that's that's the same so it ain't even question about that's the difference You know when he's the guy it with this thunder team SGA guy, you know tennis a player It is but they they pushing they marketing chat a lot Rose NBA media they they loved them some chat yeah I see it every time to I put you like this obviously I'm gonna make this USA team But at some point he's gonna make a USA team because he came up in the USA program 17 and under all of that type of stuff He's already played wemby and international basketball.

It's gonna happen He's gonna make a USA team wemby's gonna play for the French national team and they're gonna play internationally And they're gonna be played for some metal this goes beyond just the NBA This is an international thing and it's not like champ champ. It's not like champ. It's top-suy You know say like it's not like he's a bump. He's not like wemby.

He's here. No, he's better than I can He's good. He's good. Don't be disrespectful.

He's good. Has you been disrespectful to Luca? You've been disrespectful to Joker. You just turned a corner this season can't so don't act like come on now I'm good in generational or different.

I think I say I'm not saying that the different we always say back there and praise Joker Before everybody started falling over Joker years ago people. I just I just you know I've been trying to hold down for brothers like you know that's what I've got you know You know I'm not gonna be a you know this this colonization of the NBA But and I've always said look at play my thing is people putting Luke up there I got a feeling when they start putting Luke up there with LeBron Reason I even said it because LeBron said LeBron says himself you guys LeBron who is favorite Please you want to say that? Different you know the same you know what the difference is same thing with you the athleticism Look at the hat a 45 inch vertical That's what we say I understand but that's different He can't do this between the two he doesn't impact the game where his team the weight of the broad use That's the difference between the two because everything offensively that LeBron did Luca can do minus the dunk He can get to the lane he gets other people open his down there He dominates he controls pace of the game right the difference is athletically He can't guard or dominate other people of either his size or smaller or bigger. He can't he doesn't get blocks He's not a great help side defender.

He's he's he's very pedestrian on the defensive side of the wall Where LeBron was not never has been so I don't sound like a comparison I See what you're saying No Even though it's different it's still similar I'll be trying to get in front of it in front of all the shit I'll be saying when the media was trying to do that shit and Luca had a couple of failures Slow down a little bit, but at least when I watch Luca and when I watch Joker I think it's like it's Larry Bird white boy cold the shit had that no no Those days we talked about last week's bonuses it I Not that great office Yeah, he got the ability that those two guys are One of the hit any shot on the foot is not a spot on the foot it you can't guard Joe Yes, Joe can look are super smart. Yeah, I think is an all-star has maybe super smart potential I don't know just because I And the skill ability gives them the ceiling of potential super far, but I'm not good I definitely think he's a I would say had his shoulders, but he's the best right now. You said yeah, he's the best player I would think I would think I would look at this is a Crazy to say I think look at top five. I don't know if I put out never say look at that I This is why black was running the Trump this shit comes to the NBA I I 50 50 win they destroyed the Warriors The only team in NBA history to have 350 point wins in one season What would that mean at the end of the end of the year is this the year?

No, it has to be the year You know the reason why I said something I'm trying to pull it up in our chat in regards to Phil Jackson's 4020 And essentially what that means is if a team wins 40 games before they lose 20 games they're considered an elite team 27 of the last 30 NBA champions fall into 40 20 category. There's only three exceptions 2004 Pistons in the 2021 but right who are the 4020 teams this year Boston Denver, Minnesota Okay, see and out of those 14 who is playing the best basketball right now Boston now Here's the thing what have I said about Taylor got to get mentally tough for the playoff all of this out of seeing this before And his team is even better if he's mentally tough. This is the year that they went to chip But if I'm a betting man, and I don't put money on games if I was a betting man My money goes to Denver. They've been there done that I trust Joker I know that they're not healthy right now, but they I understand I know that they know that the most important thing for them Is to get to the play also all they got to be and they're gonna be a contender So for me out of the four teams that are considered elite this year Boston is the best team Denver has the top So boss numbers of Denver you're taking I got to see what Tatum looks like throughout the playoff because if it's mentality, right?

I'm take that's the better team I'm taking Boston, but if Tatum is wavering like I have seen him in the past. I'm taking Denver off it I think it says a lot about taking playing on a team is good as he's playing Confidence you can't confidently say I think this is they you know with it Because because it's not this year where you're with me because because they have I Definitely said that this is the year for them to not just you want to say people in general Everybody has the same sentiment that you're saying like oh We got to see what Jason tatum's like usually if a player were in this position I bet it would be MVP Tatum wait today They're gonna run through the Eastern Conference those with the narratives that you would usually hear in the NBA But now like you said this is the only team to be a team's about 50 three times in the season I heard some crazy as that that they got the same status the nine loss though the state team and the 10 loss Chicago Bulls team as far as points differential that they average in beating their opponents Yeah, like that's the highest those two teams 72 and 10 and 79 we know nobody is giving them credit Mentally tough and we knew that stuff has been there. You know what I'm saying? So we so we gave them the grace even though eating when It is what it is and they make a final seven three or not But that being said and this is why everybody's path in that in as your career is different some people right some people's path is Ascending in terms of they get to this point and now you're in the MVP conversation And some people have to prove themselves in the playoff to then next year being an MVP conversation Because I think that's what tatum is right now because tatum has been to the conference finals multiple times He's only been in the lead five years the 7 3 19 didn't go to the finals I say one I said it went but um But uh, but he's the thing though.

You just said it. He's been to the finals. He's been to these the conference finals I'm sorry, but I'm not and I call that series too, but but here's the thing though. You just said it He's been to the finals.

He's been to these the conference finals. He's done those things like any other player But he had it across the hurdle any other player But I'm saying any other player that usually that it's of the ilk that we say in the tatum has when you had Jordan Bellon the Pistons And you had a Shaq before he got to LA and they won you heck OB shooting airballs against the jazz when it was time And they were on those high-performing teams. There wasn't a doubt You know they had gone through the fire. So the question becomes is tatum really one of them dudes because he's been he's had the test This should be the year with saying Jason tatum going win it.

Yeah, but we're not But because we've seen the same song in there. We saw last thing may not be a dude That's why I said when Ken asked me a direct question I give you a direct answer may not have been what you wanted But at the end of the day if then for embossed in play I'll let you know by the way that tatum has played through that play-off because it's not a skill thing and it's not a team thing It's a mental thing because when you get to the playoffs the roster the rotation goes between seven and eight guys Maybe nine depending on how deep you are right pause And here's thing we're playing I'm playing against shelter team. I know your play bro I know your tendency playoff basketball is not about the first second option is a third fourth Topship how patient are you gonna be to get this play off? Are you gonna run it all the way through and then when when the plays break down and it's one-on-one?

Are you mentally tough enough to overcome right? And this is the example that I used just in last year's playoff when LeBron got swept by the Denver Nuggets that he go out Guns blazing he did right even though he was heard we talked about the ankle in this day in the third He's 40 years old 39 at the time right going through it But he still give you a 40-point triple double Jason Tatum had a twisted ankle. It was out you out the game That's mental toughness. That's mental stuff.

Just saying way that that same Miami heat team bullied Trey young They bully Jason Tatum you cannot get bullied because you have to be the bully when it comes to the playoffs And that's my only question about Jason Tatum. I don't have to worry about her for the I don't worry about Jalen Green for different reason The difference of a championship team is Jason Tatum. It's been time. I said Jalen Green.

Oh, yeah Let me ask you this I heard all the warriors the Chicago Bulls all this other this other that do they look as dominant as those teams yes Boston yes like when you watch the Warriors way you can't know at times they look they look really really good But they don't look as dominant those guys that was a different level. It was like man. What are you gonna beat? Yes?

So so so so three fifty point I'm gonna play all the games not just Looking at a micro like they lost the night that Warriors No down the mission the cab beat them with no down the mission. Yes, somebody named Dean Wade of Gordon's chat Yeah, the Warriors look like an immutable bro And I'm so my question is do like we're you're questioning certain aspects of Tatum which I agree But or one aspect of Tatum which I I agree on saying when I send him to come from but as a team Do they look like these are the guys and they're just gonna run through Easter conference models and with no competition You don't think that they're gonna run through the East one. No count who's gonna give him a count to me the only team that could give him a Count is me a wall. Yeah, that's going to be a wall, but I think they're gonna beat them They shouldn't be coming that wouldn't be coming back.

Oh, you gotta get back and say yes This is stuff. Yeah, like especially for a subject for the we saw Be way get through it, but obviously he had you know issue that we're going to we saw Russell Westbrook go through it You know saying he's still who he is, but at the end of the day, I don't see anybody outside the Milwaukee books really challenging Boston like that They're gonna run through everybody else. You know saying Miami could be a thorn in their side. We don't know how I don't trust them Yeah, we saw I'm the men's I don't trust them in the playoffs.

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