EPISODE · Apr 9, 2026 · 7 MIN
Will we withdraw from NATO? Trump is thinking about leaving
from The Charlie James Show Podcast
Questions about a potential U.S. withdrawal from NATO have resurfaced following President Trump’s recent comments calling the alliance a "paper tiger" and stating he is "absolutely" considering an exit. Frustrated by a lack of support from European allies during the ongoing war with Iran, Trump has suggested he may bypass Congress to make this decision unilaterally, asserting, "I don't need Congress for that decision". However, legal experts point to Section 1250A of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)—co-sponsored by now-Secretary of State Marco Rubio—which explicitly prohibits any president from withdrawing from the North Atlantic Treaty without a two-thirds Senate vote or an Act of Congress. While some within the administration argue this law is an unconstitutional infringement on executive power, any attempt to leave would likely trigger a massive legal battle and fundamentally transform the 77-year-old security
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00:00 Will we withdraw from NATO? 00:04 You know, when times are hard, you find out who your friends are, but more importantly, you find out who they aren't. They're the ones that disappear when they go and get stuff. Now, when they need something, they always come to you, right? They always come to you, but when you need something, all of a sudden, they're not available. Man, man, I figured that out quickly in life. They always come to you. 00:32 when something needs, when they need something, they need help or they've got a problem. But when you've got one and you go to them, they're gone. They're ghost in the wind. They're out of here. And that's what NATO has done to us. 00:48 when we started making sure that Iran could not have nuclear weapons. 00:57 NATO, they were like, I don't, we don't even know you. We don't even know you. Even Ruta said today that said that the NATO response has been uh lackadaisical at best. At best? How about non-existent? It's literally been non-existent. So diplomatic sources are telling Reuters that NATO secretary general Mark Ruta told European governments that Trump wants a commitment 01:26 to participate in guarding the Strait of Hormuz in the coming days. A commitment. 01:33 And he's talking about withdrawing from NATO. Now you got to understand, these two major global organizations, the United Nations, they're broke. They got no money. The United States is the one that is bolstering that organization. NATO, they're broke too. 01:57 They depend on our money. If we were to pull out of NATO, they wouldn't be able to defend a bad case of gas. 02:08 That's the truth. So President Trump is discussing withdrawing the U.S. from NATO. He talked about it with with Ruta. Here is Pamela Ebbott. Pamela Ebbott. Yeah, no, she is not the White House secretary. Here we go. The United States still considering withdrawing from NATO. Is that still a possibility? It's something the president has discussed and I think it's something the president will be discussing in a couple of hours with Secretary General Ruta. 02:36 And perhaps you'll hear directly from the president following that meeting later this afternoon. Now that might be, and by the way, that was Caroline Levitt, not Pam Levitt. Sorry about that. uh That might be the comment that I heard earlier that President Trump was going to be making some comments tonight at six o'clock. He might be with Ruta when they do that. I don't know. But NATO, if we're a member of NATO, they got to step up. 03:05 Because the Strait of Hormuz, that doesn't just benefit us. In fact, quite the opposite. It directly benefits us less than everybody else. But once again, they want us to defend it. As long as Iran has the opportunity to make threats like they have made with mines, with missiles, with those fast boats that they have, then the Strait of Hormuz is not safe. 03:36 And like the saying goes, you don't need minds to have a minefield. 03:42 All you have to do is plant the seed that there are mines. We use a, that's a minefield right there. You want to cross it? No. 03:52 That's all you got to do is just make the threat of a minefield and everything stops. And that's what's happened in the Strait of Hormuz. So NATO needs to do something. 04:06 Because other countries, they benefit a heck of a lot more than we do. Maybe that's going to be what President Trump talks about tonight, if that's even happening, I don't know. ah We were talking about John Thune a minute ago not being the Senate majority leader. Charlie, that's not going to bother John Thune being replaced by a Democrat. Unfortunately, win-win for him and the Democrats. Yes, exactly. 04:35 Let me ask you something. I mean, if you look right now. 04:40 with the way our Senate is acting. 04:44 and our Congress, do you think if we get to that 60-day threshold, which by the way, I don't think we're going to get there, I do not believe we're going to get to 60 days. I believe that Iran ...
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