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Sep 19, 2026 1 hr 21 min

Win-Winning with Liv Boeree

from Non • Zero • Sum James Hosted by Non • Zero • Sum James

This week’s guest; Liv Boeree—host of the Win-Win Podcast, has been a key inspiration for nonzerosum.games from the start. Liv studied astrophysics and rose to prominence in the world of high-stakes poker. But for me, the public discussion she’s fuelled about using game theory and specifically win-win games, Moloch, effective altruism, and systems thinking to solve many pressing issues in the world today, is what interests me and made me realise there was an audience for these topics. This week you all get to meet her, as we sit down for our first ever Video podcast—an expansive discussion about psychopathic competitiveness, Moloch and his new friend Norma, mutually assured destruction, AI swarms and some fun stuff too; computer games, books and experimental dialogues. Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:28 Interview Starts 00:08:03 OpenAI swarm hacks Hugging Face & Mythos first strike 00:13:16 The Super-Defector 00:15:58 A glimmer of hope 00:18:53 Collaborative competition 00:30:28 Liv's obsession with Polytopia 00:35:41 Making games more win-win 00:37:49 Moloch & Norma 00:45:35 Daniel Suarez’s “Daemon” 00:46:43 Returning to win-win game development 00:50:28 Neutropia 00:52:52 The Meta-Crisis 00:58:17 10 Principles of Win-Win 01:02:08 The end of M.A.D. 01:06:04 The importance of storytelling 01:09:37 Faces of X & The Anti-Debate 01:12:30 Effective Altruism's fascination with AI X-risk 01:17:53 The future Liv wants to see Mentions: Win-Win Podcast Faces of X Elowyn: Quest of Time Neutropia Emmett Shear's Interview (with sketch-notes) Wes Roth on Mythos first strike The Super-Defector

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