Winston Peters: We can't get trade without security

With rising global tensions, market volatility, and an unpredictable international landscape, having a strong and credible foreign voice is becoming more important than ever for New Zealand. Foreign Minister Winston Peters travelled to Malaysia for a summit with his South East Asian counterparts, where he worked towards a comprehensive strategic partnership by October. But what does that actually mean for us? What would that relationship deliver in real terms? How are we positioning ourselves in an increasingly contested region? He’s just come back from his trip — Winston Peters chats to Tim Beveridge. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.