Wisdom Beyond the Mind: Listening to the Heart and Gut at Work & Beyond

In this episode of Awakening Mindfulness at Work, Pierre and Sarah are joined by Dr. Jonathan Fisher to explore a deeper understanding of wisdom—one that goes beyond thinking and into the body. Together, they unpack how wisdom arises not only from the brain, but also from the heart and the gut, and how learning to tune into these signals can support clearer decisions, reduce stress, and help prevent burnout. They also explore the role of perspective, the impact of ego on stress, and how reconnecting with a broader sense of self and community can shift how we experience challenges at work. This conversation is inspired by Dr. Fisher’s book Just One Heart, particularly the chapter on wisdom, where these ideas are explored more deeply along with additional practices. The episode closes with a practical and accessible tool—mindful journaling—and how even a few moments of reflection can help create distance from difficult experiences, reveal patterns, and support more intentional responses. A thoughtful and grounded conversation on developing wisdom as a daily practice.