with Gillie Kleiman, presented by Em Anderson

In Episode 2 my guest is the artist Gillie Kleiman. The starting point of her work is an interest in dance and in choreography, but her art manifests in a variety of forms. That includes her unfinished project Grief Dances. It’s based on dances Gillie experienced while grieving. Because Grief Dances is unfinished, it doesn’t yet have a set form. One exciting possibility is that audiences could read descriptions of the dances whilst in a theatre auditorium, the stage left empty aside from what viewers imagine to be there. Gillie also has fascinating things to say about what a post-work future might look like, where we work less and do other things more. And that includes recognising the value in activities like vegetable growing and dog walking. First broadcast 8 October 2020.