With Liz Gunn and Nick Oliver

This week I spoke candidly about the mounting crisis in UK maternity services, reflecting on the impact of the Ockenden findings in Nottingham, the Amos review, and the wider pattern of investigations now unfolding across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I shared why I believe the missing piece in so many public conversations is the voice of midwives themselves, and why true accountability has to hold both family testimony and staff testimony together. I also read my public call for an independent investigation into maternity services at University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust, setting out the concerns that staff, student midwives, bereaved parents and harmed families have trusted me to carry forward.My guests were Liz Gunn and Nick Oliver. Nick spoke with extraordinary honesty about the stillbirth of his daughter, Sarah Louise, at Derriford Hospital 21 years ago, the trauma that followed, and the lifelong ripple effects on grief, faith and family life. Together we explored what compassionate care can look like in the smallest of gestures, how fathers are so often overlooked in bereavement, and why saying a baby’s name matters. This was a deeply emotional conversation about loss, truth, courage and remembrance, and I was honoured to dedicate the episode to Nick and to Sarah Louise Oliver.NHS England – Ockenden review of maternity services: https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/ockenden-review-of-maternity-services/Independent Review of Maternity Services at Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust (report PDF): https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a3bb59c4c7605ab567238ec/ockenden-report-review-of-maternity-services-nottingham-university-hospitals-nhs-trust-e-lay.pdfNHS England – Baroness Amos’ independent investigation into maternity and neonatal services in England: https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/publication-of-baroness-amos-independent-investigation-into-maternity-and-neonatal-services-in-england/University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust: https://www.plymouthhospitals.nhs.uk/Derriford Hospital: https://www.nhs.uk/services/hospital/derriford-hospital/RK950Sands – Stillbirth & Neonatal Death Charity: https://www.sands.org.uk/Freedom Train International: https://freedomtraininternational.org/Food For Thought Radio: https://www.fftradio.com/Paul English Live: https://paulenglishlive.com/The Never Settle Podcast (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/show/3YWZ3RSb81vtuTKWjDuJ2YThe Chosen: https://www.thechosen.tv/en-usThe Salvation Army UK and Ireland: https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/New Wine: https://new-wine.org/J.John: https://jjohn.com/5&2 Christian Clothing: https://www.5and2.co.uk/about-5-2X: https://x.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/Rumble: https://rumble.com/