WONZ 355 – Clive Estcourt

Guest: Clive Woodward Estcourt NZ391045, Pilot, Bomb Aimer (14th of October 1917 – 17th of Aug 2017 ) Host: Dave Homewood Recorded: ‎13th of August 2013 Released: 9th of August 2026 Duration: 2 hour 33 minutes 11 seconds Clive Estcourt had been a commercial artist and signwriter in Hamilton in 1939 when the war broke out, and he immediately volunteered to join the Royal New Zealand Air Force. He was sent to the newly-opened RNZAF Station Ohakea in the Manawatu region, and became one of the very first airmen posted into that base after it opened on the 18th of September 1939. He thought when he first joined that he was going to fly aeroplanes…. they made him the station postman! He soon was sidelined to become Ohakea’s station signwriter. He was able to set up his own workshop to make all the signs on the ever-expanding station. But he was still wanting to become a pilot however, and eventually in 1942 he managed to convince the RNZAF to post him to an aircrew course, starting at RNZAF Station Rotorua for his Initial Training Wing course. He then underwent flying training on Tiger Moths at No. 3 Elementary Flying Training School, at RNZAF Station Harewood. He was then sent to Canada to continue his training in October 1942, where he continued training at RCAF Dunnville flying Harvards. But this training did not go well, and he ended up getting getting the chop from the course. Clive was remustered to Observer trade, and completed his training in Canada, before being sent to Britain where he crewed up at No. 11 Operational Training Unit, Westcott. Clive suffered a severe mishap at the OTU and was forced to bail out, which he details, and was forced to do the course again. He was then posted to No. 75 (NZ) Squadron with his almost all-New Zealand crew, consisting of: Captain – Pilot Officer John Rees “Aussie” Layton DFC, RNZAF (NZ425914) Navigator – Flight Sergeant John Christie, RNZAF (NZ4212829), aka Jack, aka BenAir Bomber – Warrant Officer Clive Woodward Estcourt, RNZAF (NZ391045)Wireless Operator/Air Gunner – Flight Sergeant Ta Tio Tuaine “Tai” Nicholas, RNZAF (NZ425658) Mid-Upper Gunner – Flight Sergeant David Onslow Light, RNZAF (NZ4212848)Rear Gunner – Flight Sergeant Leslie Dixon Moore, RNZAF (NZ421327)Flight Engineer – Sergeant F. Samuel, RAFVR After one and a half months at RAF Mepal with the New Zealand squadron, Clive and his crew were selected to be posted from No. 75 (NZ) Squadron to No. 7 Squadron Pathfinder Force at RAF Oakington. They were on Pathfinder operations from October 1944 through till February 1945. During the tour with No. 7 Squadron PFF, the Navigator John Christie was badly injured in a motorcycle accident and he was replaced by:Navigator – Sergeant. Lloyd Edward Anger, RCAF (R200903) However, due to a non-operational error by the captain when he failed to turn up for a briefing, the strict command chain in PFF saw the crew sent back to No. 75 (NZ) Squadron without completing the PFF tour. This included Lloyd Anger who stayed with the crew. They carried on with the New Zealand squadron through February and March 1945 till the original members of the crew were tour expired. Clive completed 36 operational sorties over enemy territory in total, plus several other OTU flights close to enemy territory as well where they were creating a diversion to confuse German defences. Once he completed operational flying he became an instructor at No. 17 Operational Training Unit at Silverstone and Turweston. Postwar, Clive returned to New Zealand and was a member of a Light Anti-Aircraft unit in the Territorial Air Force in Auckland, before becoming the Adjutant of No. 7 Squadron Air Training Corps in Hamilton for 17 years. He was very active in the RNZAF Association, and as a special associate member of the Mess at RNZAF Te Rapa, Hamilton, till its closure. Clive was one of the New Zealand Bomber Command veterans who was selected to be flown to London for the unveiling of the Bomber Command Memorial in Green Park, on the 28th of June 2012. He was the oldest veteran in the New Zealand party, aged 95. Clive passed away on the 17th of Aug 2017, two months before his 100th birthday. Clive Estcourt with his “Memory Lane” as he called it, with his favourite photos and model Lancaster. Above: Clive Estcourt during WWII. Below: Photo from RNZAF Station Ohakea in 1939. Below: Ohakea, 1940. Clive is second from left. Below: Sports at Ohakea (1939-1942). Clive seated left. Airspeed Oxfords behind. Below: Aircrew training at RNZAF Station Harewood, Christchurch. Below: Training in Canada. Below: At Westcott, England. Below: Photos of Clive and his crew taken at No. 1657 Heavy Conversion Unit, RAF Shepherd’s Grove, before they were posted to No. 75 (NZ) Squadron. Below: Target photos from operations Clive and his crew undertook, Below: Postwar photos, including with the LAA Flight Note: This episode ends abruptly simply because that is how the original recording was. The music at the end of this episode is Wild Flower by Joachim Karud.