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EPISODE · Sep 23, 2025 · 37 MIN

"Work Hard, Play Hard" with Meghan French Dunbar

from Trash Talk: Where Bad Advice + Cliches Get Taken Out · host Erin Thomas + Erica Breuer

What does “work hard, play hard” really mean and why won’t it die?In this episode of Trash Talk, Erica and Erin sit down with Meghan French Dunbar, author and co-founder of Conscious Company Media, to unpack the cultural myth of “work hard, play hard.”Drawing on Meghan’s new book, “This isn’t Working,” this conversation explores how play has been commodified, as well as why, despite our best efforts, hustle culture from decades ago still sneaks into modern work.Don’t forget to leave us a review and call the hotline to share your favorite or most cringe-worthy cliches:719-819-2175Show Notes & LinksBuy Megan’s Book, “This Isn’t Working”https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/meghan-french-dunbar/this-isnt-working/9781541704862/Visit Megan’s Website https://www.meghanfrenchdunbar.com/Subscript to Megan’s podcast, “Better Than This”https://www.meghanfrenchdunbar.com/betterthanthisFollow Erica Breuer: LinkedInFollow Erin Thomas: LinkedIn Visit the Trash Talk Website: BuzzsproutCitationsJohn Morison, Religious Improvement of the Poorer Classes, London: Fisher, Son & Jackson, 1827, p. 277.The Normal Instructor and Teachers’ World, Vol. 32, 1923, p. 92.Quoted in The Rotarian, Vol. 77, No. 3, Sept. 1950, p. 35.

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What does “work hard, play hard” really mean and why won’t it die? In this episode of Trash Talk, Erica and Erin sit down with Meghan French Dunbar, author and co-founder of Conscious Company Media, to unpack the cultural myth of “work hard, play hard.” Drawing on Meghan’s new book, “This isn’t Working,” this conversation explores how play has been commodified, as well as why, despite our best efforts, hustle culture from decades ago still sneaks into modern work. Don’t forget to leave us a r...

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