Working with Steve Jobs & Becoming a Wiser Guy with Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist at Canva

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“I don’t trust you either, Steve.” He made a $400m mistake at Apple. Today, we're talking to Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist at Canva and author of "Wiser Guy". We discuss his experiences working with Steve Jobs, how he navigated hearing loss and became a mission-driven leader, and why it's essential to approach life with humor and resilience in the face of challenges. All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! Thank you to Digital Ocean for sponsoring this episode. For simple cloud and powerful AI that’s built to scale, check out Digital Ocean here. To learn more about Guy, pick up a copy of "Wiser Guy" here!

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