Wrestling With Evil

What do we really mean when we talk about evil? In this episode of How to Human, I sit down again with Molly Gorney and Anne Skriba to explore one of the most uncomfortable—and deeply human—questions: what is evil, and where does it actually live? Together we unpack the ways religion shaped our earliest understanding of sin, goodness, and hell, and how those beliefs have evolved through our own journeys of deconstruction, sobriety, healing, and lived experience. We talk about harm, accountability, shame, and the systems that allow suffering to continue. We wrestle with the tension between believing humans are inherently good while also acknowledging the very real harm people cause. And we explore what it means to look honestly at our own shadow without losing our capacity for compassion. This conversation isn’t about arriving at a clean answer. It’s about curiosity, humility, and the courage to sit with complexity. Because maybe learning how to be human means recognizing that the capacity for both harm and healing lives in all of us.