Hello everyone and welcome once again to RTM reacts to We payback where your 115,764 favorites wrestling podcast on the internet every week we come together to bring you our thoughts and opinions on the number one brand in sports entertainment Remember if you want to join us in the conversation find us at arseam wrestling on Twitter as it stands We post this podcast in full on to YouTube soundcloud at him wrestling calm and I choose to go get it wherever it's convenient for you My name's Andy as always I'm joined by the pockets rocket I'm happy Monday happy Monday not the happy Mondays, but happy Monday Spank holiday Monday in the UK by calling him on day. Yes national holiday. Whoop whoop whoop not for me Payback I think this could go on a while Computer ready so start the show as we always do with your tweets and thank you so much again for tweeting us in the comments It'd be rubbish if nobody did and we start off with a fantastic at Carl Gacken who spoke after today's potentially devastating Jericho related news I expect a special episode all about Emma's favorite wrestler Cal that is coming Around the same time as it gets nominated for return of the year in a she's slammies Cal goes on to say great show gutted for Enzo put the thing they'd win the match not a bad match on the card in my opinion Owens is worth his weight in gold big opportunity to make the next few months something really great to watch It needs a big episode overall tonight. Oh, we will get on to a win later.
Cal fantastic comment As always my thanks very much next up. We've got at underscore nights Queen underscore. He's but no idea what the They were thinking without women's title match ending let the screw job go already Should we just start applauding now? Indeed my thoughts exactly which I will elaborate on later on and then last absolutely not least we've got Raymond Alth Jones on Twitter at Raymond Alth a LF Jones his book ends.
Oh's injury was hard to watch over and over again Cesaro was not winning the title makes me wonder if there'll be a fake four-way extreme rules US title on another pre-show is taking the piss massively Raymond Getting bored now with the whole women's title Chicago screwed up thing Brett and flair need to go away They're not needed and he's now very boring not shocked that they kept the belt on Roman Reigns as AJ Styles doesn't need the belt to get over A decent pay-per-view but I'm seriously bored with Roman Reigns in the title picture unlike Rawlins and Ambrose nothing has changed or improved Since the shield split and lastly says Zane versus Owens intrigued to see where they go with their history and all-out war extreme rules is golden As well those three tweets Raymond. So thanks very much lovely That's what you guys thought so first off. Let's give them. Let's get the non wrestling But otherwise so Vince was announcing on Raw sorry payback That's a step or shame is gonna take over.
Yes. I thought beforehand they were gonna go with to say face for both of them They're gonna go with a third option that was gonna announce we could be the more exciting to but instead They did the same thing saved face, but some reason said both of them Oh that big promo and bill up to it and you debook doing it it was such Aduncy climax not just pointing results. I don't really mind. I think it'd be quite funny They're obviously a comedy angle between them, too So I like it But wow that it was it wasn't so much the build-up to it was just the amount of time actually on the night dedicated to it How long they were on the ring for and you were expecting some special guests to come up She's only one thing that can happen here because attention's building building building Just I get my It's like letting the air out of the balloon.
It just all kind of Think about what I run wrong and you're like and then he walks away You're like oh Like his main lines of a one-blood I want you to disembow each of that one to sleep each other's throat Would have come across really well had to crowd not been chanting see and punk at the time now Chicago I'm gonna let this one go because it's Chicago, but seriously People still chanting for punk well Yeah, I thought it was do you really give a shit about see and punk now with all the other monsters that I can knock around what was The end point do if you came back. Oh, you do a Jericho. You just go back. I probably start calling people stupid idiot And not yeah, where scarves maybe I don't know, but maybe we'll see me you have seen in 2020 20 20 So We'll see what happens tonight on roll with that Wrestling wise first up zig-lef are in common Yeah, yeah I was trying to then really hard to get anything from that Sweet this out which got quite a lot of responses Also got a lot of negative responses people say well the building up the feud No, you know I've built them a feud and we'll get on to smells I ain't building up a fucking few later as well Because I'm see then this is gonna be a very interesting show ladies and gentlemen no alcohol involved on me fucking horse So it does nothing for you Nothing absolutely no it needed to get over in that match or wise the whole thing was fucking pointless you carry on to extreme rules No, we can't I agree.
I don't I already don't care Yeah, I already don't care like the fucking somebody else from actually whatever but something that didn't so let's Briskly move on from something that didn't disappoint absolutely exceeded every single expectation I even remotely had for it was my favorite one of my favorites Calisto versus right back now I feel bad because I said I didn't give a shit about this and even tonight. It's only started It's all right back came out. It's like tap in his fucking watch and I was like oh my god This is amazing right back was doing like the best heel work I always say that right back. It's like he's getting slightly better every time and he's just so comfortable now He's playing off the crowd like beautifully There though, yeah, that's true.
You think that's anybody was sticking a fucking knife in it's him Oh my god the crowd response when he got down his knee and started. Oh, I was pissing my pants absolutely pissing my pants Because yeah, we all were fun, you know, it's my favorite still Yeah, but that was just perfect if you could have done anything like it was absolutely perfect You know, it's taking the piss out of him. You know it's fantastic, you know, and I was too busy tweeting Like you just communicating you know really looking at people there was no like dead sort of addresses to the crowd Oh, you know, he's looking at particular people who shout out and going oh It's amazing it went out there to fucking get them some boo. Yeah, he did a great job It was great great match.
I love it I think properly got Calisto over more like so the crowd massive pop and Calisto won the mattress fantastic Let's give right back props. He stops Calisto from breaking his neck possibly when he did that move where he saw spring over the top rope You know, he got he got in there and he was lay across, you know, that's all the shit that right back's been given Mm-hmm for being dangerous and also that that motherfucker lay across the edge of the ring So that please don't go on running pretty much, you know, because any was quick to move as well Because if you haven't moved quick Calisto could have fucking cracked his head on and as we saw later on He could have gone disastrously wrong that but right back got in there straight away and he's pretty much, you know Saved a possible injury so that was great. The match itself was great. It was slick.
They were all over it They were absolutely all over it like right back was and you know because we were saying and you made a good point of At least I'll need somebody to keep up with him like a never or something like that right back kept up with him Yeah, it was a short match and I bet he was knackered afterwards. What fuck me did he put it on? It was absolutely brilliant match. I loved it I was I was so pumped to the whole show after that and it was a shame that the whole show didn't quite live up to as if I'm saying it a right back match.
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy It was what it was such a surprise. I think for me It was the take-home match of the night like not so much the best not much of the night But the one that was like holy fork, you know like well dawn Do you really really went after it really went after it? Which is a lot can be said for a move, you know there so fair news fad ools some we start payback and New day come out huge applause as the warrant and as they deserved it was sattering side, you know the camera was Quoting to in the rain pizza everyone popped everyone laughed then we get probably the most disturbing scene of may have ever seen an Arresting ring and it's not necessarily the worst thing you've ever seen like me and you watch UFC We knew we knew straight away what was wrong with him. Yeah, because we've seen it before We've seen you know this been breathing through his mouth after Dan Henderson fucked him up You know we've seen that reaction of starch to call it starching and he knocked himself out cold But it was scary It was legitimately scary because the first sort of 20 seconds of it nobody knew what the fuck to do no and the ref didn't know and he's there And he's not responding and he's doing that breed that job when the camera went into it.
Yeah, yeah He's doing I was heavy breathing that's the brain trying to wake itself up, you know, it's fucking it was horrible I I was I was dosing off unfortunately as I always am story of my life And then I heard you go oh my god He's hurt himself and I was awake because I didn't know what match we were on at that point Yeah, and I saw his ends I was like oh no of all the people it's gonna be ends I wasn't it and yeah, I mean the sweet that we had earlier I can't remember who was unfortunately I've said all names saying like playing it over and over again It was a bit uncomfortable because it was because he could have broke me's neck I mean it was it was pretty clear. I just saw it that he'd knocked it was the back of his head that he had knocked him out But still I mean no one no one quite knew it happened so fast and the company kept doing the replay and You know obviously I felt really bad for God because he got straight in there and thought he was just pissing about I'm gonna grab him by the fucking there Yeah, he grabbed all of them So if he'd have really he must be feeling like really shaking after that because I could be really hurt himself He'd be like shit. I might have done some damage there. Yeah, you know big castle absolutely distraught new day just like the Murder us.
Yeah, it was horrendous. It just didn't know what to do and you know you you said and Either because they didn't kind of call it. They didn't ring the bet. Well, they didn't declare a winner But ends on big cast must have been the winners perhaps but I don't think so I thought you said ends on big cast must have been the winner.
Oh, yeah, sorry. I'd completely apologize. I completely missed Missed you say who the awarded the match to after the injury. That's okay.
We're not I think that even if ends on big cat sorry I don't think they would have given the winner there at all if I'm honest because they didn't know what was wrong with him And it would have been really poor taste. I think they would have carried on you know doing the Work case a whatever you describe that stuff. Um, I just don't think anyone knew what hell to do when it, you know Cut to the commentators the three of them talking and you can see that they're listening to people shouting in their ears because their eyes I just got off into like a trance like say like they're talking but they're listening to someone which isn't a crazy skill Yeah, for all the flaws that the commentators have like Jesus I couldn't do that job but when Byron's actions ask you any thoughts on something because they were listening to what other Yeah, you know, that's when you know that shit is keen. Yeah, and they were like it was quite I mean It's not funny, but I can say it's funny now because he's okay The fact that like really having it up.
Well, we just don't know what's wrong We just don't know what's wrong, but they clearly so almost just said really sure the audience guys She's sounding really freak you freaking everyone out. It's like just like running down in the best hands We have got the best It was such a like quick thing to get in because they were like really doom and gloom in it like oh well We have no idea what's wrong with him And it was really sad and it was very jarring and I was ready to go to sleep anyway I was snoozing on the sofa, but you know, you couldn't you couldn't get into the rest of it We have gone back and we've watched them all the yeah, it's nice to see though that he's okay and see the Instagram pictures of him Yeah, you know just looking himself coming out. I mean hopefully it's not a crazy concussion He's out for a really long time. It'd be amazing.
I haven't been completely impossible if that match happened tonight No, I don't I don't think they'll do that Cushions usually take about a week to get over like so, but you know Corey Graves had to retire because of Daniel Bryan and then he found something else, you know I got cleared for the concussion thing what founds my house so yeah It's a tough one because it was such a gruesome thing It was it was disturbing because you don't you don't expect it You know you have see you expect some of the going out cold yeah, and then the back on the feet within ten seconds But what happened well, this was like if anybody remembers Ricky Hart and versus money Pacquiao That was probably the most devastating boxing knockout ever seen when the Pacquiao knocked out hard and it was oh Really disturbing just in wrestling as well especially because in wrestling sometimes injuries are a work So you have in your head. Oh is it is it whereas you know you have to see if someone goes down there down There's this moment where's a question mark and you always assume that it's a work But obviously when you know you're a ragdolled on the floor and just head over to the ring and it was like shit And you could tell but then obviously the crowd weren't quite sure and that's the that's a weird thing You know way about wrestling and why it's kind of dangerous It's kind of dangerous if you get if you actually do get injured because of how gotcha know gotcha example Just going straight over and grabbing all of it because people don't automatically back off or rush to aid It's like always he pissing around is this just something that is part of the match Yeah, so you've got these like precious few seconds where someone really needs to get on it and people just don't and it's this moment of Just give him a chance give him a chance someone speaks to them You all right. No, definitely not okay. Whereas in the UFC.
Yeah someone's in straight way Yeah, but it's very disturbing It's disturbing to see him lying there for a little bit when no one really did anything that was that was probably the worst bit for me Because I could tell he was really hurt. Yeah Jesus Christ I was a heart bump and then looking at him the way he was laying the way his head was just in and away Just wasn't moving I thought fucking I'll be out there and then as soon as the camera went in on him close And he was doing that breathing thing. That's when that's when they come so I was like, oh, you don't always don't That's when the rest turn around and sort of round the bell and then as soon as the bell rang everyone was like, oh shit Oh, oh, he's actually fucking injured it. It was horrid really horrible anyway Hopefully we get a speedy recovery there Such a you know just having an amazing time at the moment.
Yeah, definitely one of the best things to show So we did ruin the next match a little bit for me, but I have come back and watch it. So oh Zane do you want to go first? I enjoyed it wasn't the greatest I've ever seen and I was I wasn't intrigued actually It didn't even occur to me whether or not when you said I wonder if they changed the order in a bit And they were supposed to be on a bit later and the pulled and forward just because that's been yet so long Yeah, you know, free to put a bit of time for them to get themselves sorted maybe not maybe but yeah, I thought it was great I thought it was very good. I think that they were saving it kind of ended very abruptly And then Owens was brilliant on the mic I feel like they were sort of saving the best bit for the invasion on the you know the match after Yeah, actually and I feel like they were saving like the fun crazy bit for that So the match was a bit dialed in for me and that's when I was thinking that I've seen better if this is it If this is it this is the last one we're gonna get which obviously isn't but if this is the last one we're gonna get this isn't This isn't the best but it was still very very good.
I've been I've been overly harsh because I've got such high expectations Of them. There's anybody else it's been on the match I've ever seen but I've seen better. Yeah go on go for your life See I can take two sacks with this one the smart one ones and also smart one They're not so smart one. I get angry the smart one more reserved to which one do you want?
I'll go with the angry. Right. Let it go. Why the fuck why the fuck did he lose clean?
Why do you lose clean because I'm gonna be harsh here I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people I disagree feel free to comment below feel free to tweet us I'll tell you for some it maybe somebody can talk me out of your base that I feel like I'm in now Zayn losing clean Makes zero cents whatsoever Him then coming out and attacking him afterwards makes even less sense to me He's just lost clean. There's no there's no He was just beaten Because he's jumping in there and he's fighting him again So the whole thing with Owens because I first I thought oh shit Owens and getting sacks in the ring might be Feeling a bit of time, but then you know him doing the commentary then we realized why he was doing the commentary I'm not going to in a con outside much so I'm sure everyone can agree with you there that we have seen better hold but Owens, you know super star absolutely super star made him look really strong and he just makes it just makes no sense like It did make Zayn look very very weak and like a petulant child Whereas you know he's supposed to be the one who's you know He's supposed to the face in this especially the one you kind of rooting for oh, this is a bad guy But the bad guy you look to hate so you kind of don't really care if he wins But still you know them two playing their roles if they're gonna continue playing them in the way that they did in NXT and It looks like kind of through their career Zayn's the one that you share for he's the good guy and then to make him look kind of like a child and a bit So key yeah, it's a bit weird and like say to lose clean because he's weak now So why would they have a rematch why would they ever come together again those guys why is he beating? Yeah, cuz I've not watched my down for a long time and there's quite a lot with the viewing figures There's quite a lot of people don't watch my down either the only zayn win that I can think of is a roll-up on Russo Yeah, it's not been great. No, it's not been great.
You know, it's like what the fuck are they playing at? What are they playing at you know? I don't to say that I don't care about and see this thing like how long is the rivalry gonna go on for? It's you know, it's awesome.
They're gonna have an extreme rules match extreme rules are they gonna do some crazy stipulation? Maybe but he's lost. No, it's not why why would why would anybody who isn't us? This is the thing like right now They need to go say don't need to go with us, you know, and you know and there's a 90% of that Chicago crowd We're singing a song and singing all that social They don't you don't fucking need to go over them where he needs to get over is fucking backstreet USA Who just cheer for Cena or just cheer for rains?
That's where he needs to get over and he ain't gonna get over by getting beat decisively And then he what doesn't get him over even Michael Coles when you fuck up his moves Or it's blue thunder bomb and then it's a moderation of a blue thunder bomb. No, it's not Michael Cole It's a Mitchin oku driver then the blue thunder bomb that he's been doing for the last fucking three years now I can't be the only one who thinks like this. I was absolutely like not you know, it's great great match again Same for his own because watching from now to the inside. It's just weird.
Why would you have him lose that clean? It's just he was dominated. It was just really strange. There was no there was no like It's like all right, so he got he got beat clean and then he comes out and starts smacking him again It makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
So then he's gonna go in the fight or four way like something tweeted It just makes no sense whatsoever I completely agree I completely should have been cheated out of it or I mean should have lost and then beat him down Yeah, and then he could have said now because that makes more to me that makes more sense because who gives a fuck now When Zane walks out on Raw and they're in the middle of nowhere Well, it's not even sold out and they fucking they've all got signs saying make it rain, you know Who's gonna give a shit about Zane coming out? It's just lost. It's a very very different ball game. It's just a totally different bullshit It is bullshit.
No, I'm with you. I'm totally totally with you like I it's when I say it's a different ball game I'm not saying it in the sense of well, it's a different ball game It's just that I look at it and go I can't just anymore like it really is that it's not disappointing But it's inevitable we knew it was gonna happen But we kind of didn't want it to because we thought Zane was a bit bigger than that It'd be better than that and they did pretty well with Owens I think I've got no complaints really about oh, I will have when all the other stars come back Yeah, and it's like oh in versus rider on main event Yeah, cuz it's inevitably gonna happen because you're not gonna have because you just know for a fact that seen is gonna drop in there And or no, you know and Rawlins is gonna want to come back and get that title so Does that drop Ambrose down because it's probably gonna be a rain's rolling thing? I don't know so yeah I feel like at the moment I really like Owens and where he's at but I think it's temporary and I'm waiting I'm just waiting it's just feels like a foregone conclusion that everyone's just gonna tumble down and Zane Christ isn't in a great place to start with At the moment. No, well, he's not always not one of match convincing.
He's not one of match convinced I don't know what they do with him cuz they're not even letting talk I mean he's doing it on that vignette like I mean That's cool, you know, it's really good on the vignette he came across as a 12 year old boy. Yeah, dude We were friends. We were friends And then Owens is giving these amazing answers and Zane's like well, we were friends and you know it's like what the fuck are they doing? No one's gonna like Zane unless they hear and speak and I could be cause and that's the crazy thing Cuz it's amazing wrestler that ain't enough on the main roster.
It is on the next team can say nothing She's gay can say nothing she's gay can do nothing I don't have to wrestle you can just walk straight out back out the fire at it But it's true like you see enough on a next tee it is you can be an amazing wrestler and just have a really good kind of character And not do a lot of talking but I make sure you got to do a lot of talking to like you I don't know It like me fears for Zane it's not even starting to come true with it And it's just absolutely mind-boggling like you know, he loses clean and comes back out fine I'm sure I'm overreacting and I'm sure because we've got no without no tweets about it about that particular thing So I can't be the only one that thinks it's weird is all I'm saying and in less Zane as a match on Raw where he wins Then it ain't looking good. I mean it didn't Me just watching it if I was watching alone, I wouldn't have really questioned it But it was only when you said it was like actually yeah, that's a good point and I was like I think about it more and I was like Yeah, shit. I think I'm so distracted by Owens and how like amazing his work is and I am seeing Zane as a bit of a prop For Owens at the moment. Yeah, he's just Capilted him into just stardom and he's just been a bit of a tool at the minute for once of a better word Yeah, no, I'm not only me Just kind of a shame because I saw Zane was like the one I saw he was around before then in WWE And I'm a huge fan of Zane, but I'm now like I don't know What it is is everything that they've done with him on the main roster has been and maybe they've got this grand plan like a bit Daniel Bryan that's where he's gonna keep losing bit Tommy dreamer Ravenesque where he needs he will be where he never beat him and then on The last night you beat him, you know, maybe that's gonna be a big build up the rest of me But I'm telling you right now.
They won't do that They won't do it They won't give it justice because he comes out the Royal Rumble throws out Owens then gets eliminated He comes back and fights with Owens and Owens beats him down He has a match with Owens and gets beaten decisively and then when he comes out and beats him up again Owens beats him up again It's like you couldn't you couldn't if it was anybody else but Zane people would be losing their shit People would be like if anybody else was beating on Zane like Owens is they'd be like, oh, the burying him The burying him always getting very into his burying him They don't know how to deal with these NXT stars as well because he's Owens and people know the history about Owens and Zane They're all right with it and maybe that's a meeting that they've said well We can we can get away with bookings ain't so weak because he's against Owens anybody else. He's got a little stronger It's definitely the case it is definitely they are get to me without speaking to you They are getting away with it, but I don't like it. I really really don't like it I fear the worst at the moment and it's not gonna take long for that un-schmarky crowd to fucking turn and be indifferent and we've already seen it Rusev vs Zane. We've already seen it.
It sounded like a fucking pin was gonna drop it and then he rolled him up and everyone went Oh, it's like fucking hell is this it? I tell you right now as well some of that pisses me off NXT Zane walks out everybody singing along He's just doing this thing and he's walking in now when he walks in he's going mad and he's putting his finger to his ear saying Come on, please chump for me Please chump for me everybody and it just it's like that raw Manchester where Tyson kid come back from injury I thought that was gonna be stood on the barricade going tai-sun-tai-sun The front two rows were going tai-sun-tai-sun-tai-sun-tai-sun, not even do it in time But then because they get involved it ends in a no contest and Owens has got a title in the end Don't get me wrong, Owens is the superstar out of the group and that's the guy that you want to put your fucking rockets behind and Get to be a superstar. Yeah, but they will not do it. I guarantee you they will not do it for a long time And he will be in to continental champion again and everybody will love him because he'll come out and he'll say a few words and he'll and he'll do this and he'll do that But he won't get skyrocketed like that because that actually basically look to me It looked like holy shit again Like the scene a thing where he beat Cena that making him a superstar again and they fucked that Yeah, by having him lose the last one and it's like rusev all over rusev was on a tear Then he hits John Cena and now he's the shit the comedy part of the League of nerds who thank God broke up But I could talk from the toilet face.
I just don't I don't know what the fuck the planar I really don't please it's disappointing and you're gonna wear this out on the mark quite a few times Well, just as a party one on that one then what what do you think the chances are of Being an all-in zane Wrestlemania next year very very slow very something. I don't think they think I'm saying carry it Mm-hmm. That's why that's why cuz your opportunity to do it in their short-sighted way of booking was at Wrestlemania And they didn't do it they threw him into a ladder match and they give him that little bit the start and he cost him You know that's that's what they went with but you have to have him in a bigger match because they can't carry it And for whatever reason I don't think this is a as being the training out the testing the water, but it's not it's not paying off No, it's not paying off. Yeah, Chicago was fantastic for him Anyplace that they go when it's got when they've got a crowd of people that aren't worried at any time of the show that they've shit Their pants is gonna be great zane's gonna be over to the fucking moon But unfortunately like we saw when he rolled up rusev most people don't give a shit and If that starts being the case I'm gonna get even more angry with him.
Yeah, that's just what I think with it And I'm not I'm not a huge zane fan like don't don't get me wrong I'm not jumping at the bit to buy a t-shirt because they're not very good But I'm not jumping at the bit by t-shirt the first t-shirt that in zane was great. I could avoid but it didn't you know I'm not a huge zane fan, but you fucking got somebody better than what the what the producer what the showing everybody these like 10 12 year old kids Should be loving him and unfortunately at this moment in time He's in it. They'll be all there will be a difference with him people who don't have a network You know like I know they dropped them to three million last time But you know it's normally three and a half million the networks 1.8 million subscribers Which interestingly enough to send an email through saying would you pay 1299 for it if Raw and smart down was on the day after oh? Which I would do yes, I would pay more for you.
I would pay more anyway because it is fucking minute Come to you was hilarious. Oh, sorry. I should do just a show on that. Oh my god.
This is amazing. Oh my god. Vince was amazing But that's where that's where we're at and I would love somebody to challenge it I'd love somebody to walk in the comments your thought about it tweet us at our theme wrestling your thoughts on the whole zane debacle You remotely worried as I am because I'm I'm fearing the worst and I'm you know the smart answer would have been well You know that the building down and it's Owens if it was anybody else I'd be worried well I am worried because it doesn't seem like they want to roll with him at all because if he just stood tall at the end and held up The end of the end of our title yeah Owens would have been what about that moment But then he doesn't look as weak now It looks like he keeps running out and keeps getting the shit kicked out of my own and then he keeps running out And it's not that never say die at you because that's bullshit. You know my co-go at this kid just doesn't give up You know it's like you know he don't give up but neither does fucking Tyler Breeze when he's on camera He still loses every match.
I mean he was Demi and Sandal when he was against Corbin But he's still awesome arch. Oh these guys don't give up. You know zane his thing is he doesn't give up But someone else who says that so he can go fuck himself at all you can fuck yourself at all while I'm here Let's let's keep going shall we see no no under? Yeah, so miss with sides So after that after that round ladies and gentlemen Let's all have a drink so chill out with it Let's get into a nice safe pair hands a nice warm pair of slippers if you will because we've got Ambrose versus Jericho Oh my god, it's over.
Oh my god. It's done. It's done for another year And then we'll have to see him at role rumble again. Um, no I get that nomination He's slimy no no no no no no no for him.
He's a real winner in his own heart, but um Yeah, no it was a great match I was so relieved that Ambrose I had this horrible feeling that we're gonna keep his weird Jericho winning streak going Which men absolutely jack shit cuz styles was in the main event for the title so Jericho winning was completely pointless He might as well have lost but it was probably because we were like well happy for one more pay-per-view So we'll have you going into that not a loser. We'll have you going into that as a winner Yeah, you're sticking around for one more and then you lose the next one. Um, but it does push Ambrose up Yeah, so should lost to Jericho. So yeah, you know, I mean the right person went over It was a good match if we don't see Jericho again for a bit what we can say is he's done really good work He's put over tons of people in this room.
Yeah, he has to be fair and he's been very he's been an entertaining heel really entertaining heel Definitely like just like the Miz before his wife joined him. Oh, she's okay. Um, no, I'm just kidding. I hate him is but The um, you're giving me any problems.
No, he was okay. He's been okay, but yeah, no, it was really good I enjoyed it. I like Ambrose. I don't like people I don't like your girls wearing Ambrose stole my heartsees shirts.
They can't even the creeps I don't know why they do I've never seen that yeah, so I'm sat behind the commentary box It just and I couldn't see her face because it was just like chest down But lucky young girl a little girl and Rose not little but maybe like team God she can actually this woman was like 14 hard to be mortified Yeah, I'm still my heart I've seen a few signs as well saying that and just it just makes me a bit like it makes me feel a bit Yeah, we'll be I don't know why I just I just have this image of like people like these like mums coming along and like well I can't bro, it's a bit of a bad boy Sick The shit doesn't matter so I don't know the names of many wrestling moves and I tend to talk about their costumes their characters And how they act and their promos good. It's a good it's a good to you into my young And I will need you after this next one. Oh god because I feel it burning again I feel it's not another stomach and it rising and rising and rising so I'm gonna let you go first and it's the WWE women's title match and it's Rick flair I've had my runs about this on previous shows but those who didn't have a pleasure of hearing that It's I just I'm really racing how ironic it is that they made a massive song and dance about bringing the women's title back It's all about women's wrestling and yet every major match since then has involved a dude So WrestleMania flair cost it or you cheated whatever But and then this one when it was announced like oh Right, it's gonna be my car. No, it's like right.
Okay. So this match then becomes not about what you two can do in the ring Which is wildly entertaining enough. Let me just tell you that those two I could watch I could honestly watch the wrestle for an entire show I really could tell you Charlotte amazing absolutely amazing. I don't need to see flair anymore It's been done.
Do we really need it and the weird thing is the ironic thing for me Is that this particular match with everything that happened in it the fucking screw job shit? You know right how I get in there, you know the two guys get involved weird It Funnily enough after all of the praise of the given women's wrestling This was the most old fashioned women's wrestling match I might have seen in a long time old fashioned sexist match It really was it was like it was just so stupid It's the kind of thing that would have been on when I first started watching again Which was I had a break from it outside watching like 2012 when you know the Bellas were back and you know I mean and it was all like weird, you know AJ Lee Sneaking around the hotel room with Cena. Maybe she kissed him. Maybe she didn't it just felt like that I felt like we're in that era again.
It's like hang on a minute. I'm missing I'm really missing Sasha and Becky and I'm missing Charlotte actually, you know glory I'm sick of flair now. Fles been around far too long. He doesn't need to be there.
They don't need him to prop Charlotte She's a good enough heel on her own. She could do it. She's fine And it's so irritating it's irritating as a rehashing old fucking storyline. It was about Brett Hart So now that's gonna be about Natalia.
So now I'm imagining this is just gonna roll over into the next paper view You don't think so? See I have a horrible feeling it will I mean it's great Well, if he does and they say that but I don't think they will I think that'll be the end of it because about ended I just can't well because of the Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna push up sure brown and right Brown and fellow backwards Yeah, he's really having a good wobble in there Like he was in more pain pain than player. Um, but to round off my comments on it before you go because I can tell you chomp at the bits again It was disappointing is great much. It's been those two really really good.
I can't complain about that It was just the caliber of wrestling. It's great. Don't expect anything less just I'm over it I'm over the flare thing. I'm particularly you know Brett Hart We you know you told me the publicity the bad policy that you actually want to be there He was quite vocal about the fact that he didn't want to be there He hates WWE.
I don't whether that was a work to try and like with the screw job and stuff Make a good point there. Maybe yeah, it makes sense But yeah, I just I just don't want to see guys in the women's matches if there was it would be honest to God What they should do is an experiment not that they have a word But in my head it would be like one show for an entire paper view There's women at ringside every of every single match for every one of the guys matches and you're like why are they there? Give me a new question that when I was a woman there I was like why the fucking there? Why is this is why for her?
Why is that person there? Why is that bitch there? Why is she there? What's she doing?
Oh, she's gonna destroy the referee of course she is Do you know what I mean? So try that try bringing a woman out every every man's match now and it just wouldn't happen So stop it with women's one fucking match on there was one match on leave them alone the capable and can freaking do it So there's my thoughts off you go How long have we got I mean we've already run over we ran over massively See I feel tired is what I feel I don't necessarily want to go for it But for maybe one or two people that may want it I'm gonna go anyway So Come back to the last show. I was saying about Brahance by publicity already Made it about him Whether or not that's work. I don't really care because makes no sense the finish the match make no sense whatsoever Why would they do a screw job and the ref like?
Yeah, so the screw job was there for a reason the screw job was there for You know because I was going to be CW and he didn't want to go on the title That was there for a reason there was no reason behind this whatsoever other than just to remind everybody that One time round That's a tough that's a tough thing to say because the guys just come from you know cancer surgery and all that stuff God bless him and I'm not religious so that's big for me for me I hope he does help ease fully over it and everything like that Just made no sense Made no sense whatsoever the match itself was ruined by the fact that they were there and it's not a sexist thing Like I won't go so hard to say like I didn't think it was a sexist thing But what it says to me and probably everybody else watching is that the women can't handle it on their own They need a male hand to you know and it was a bit of a proud poppy moment at the end where they both put the sharps You're on him. I think that's it. I don't think that's I think it was a placeholder I think Natalia being there as a placeholder. I don't think she'll come out on Raw and said you screwed me out of the title I don't even think there'll be repercussions for the ref.
I don't even this is this is how poorly I think it was executed is that I don't think they'll address it I think Charlotte will come out and say that she beat Natalia and she tapped out and then Sasha Banks will walk out Yeah, you forgot about Natalia the Chicago screw job Yeah, I think it'll come out again six months time when they've got a ship pay-per-view that they need to throw in It's all your own if they don't want to carry on fair enough if they carry on and you know flares barred from ringside And then they have a good match and then she all the wins which I think I think will happen But she still cheats but she can you know she does on her own. She doesn't need a dad creepy old dad and Apparently for bears according to Which is amazing Mountain's and the Groxon Yeah, that's great. Fantastic. Um, yeah, it just makes no sense whatsoever.
It didn't look like it was remotely Emotional it didn't look like it was it was just looked so scripted You know it was just the ref's face and he was like for some reason he was looking shifty And he was just like well, maybe I'll go for the bell I was very weird throw the bell in the ring and get the fuck out of there It just it just made no booking sense whatsoever and it just doesn't forward it I just don't know the entire card and like you know, I said, you know, there wasn't a bad match on the card You right there wasn't a bad match on the card But book him eyes it just I was just left just like thinking what are they doing? Like what are they doing with all this like what was the point of? You will get on top layer, but I just know I just didn't see the point of any of it I don't see the point of them being in the sharpshooter at the end or them to get cheap pop out the crowd It was just cheap pop everything. Yeah, it was just it was just weird.
It was really weird Why bring out the screw job again? Like why bring that up again? Well, the fact that it wasn't even an obvious thing because like we watch it and the bell man what they do it didn't even do it Well because the network skips I did it skip back or did we put it back? We're like no, we don't rewind it so we rewind it so it took us it took us a while to get it and you just went ah Screw job.
Oh Alright, it's not even like it was clear that what they were doing. I just thought it's really strange So the commentators and the work are out for them. It's a screw job Yeah, no, it was let's all remember what happens to Brad again because he didn't want to really push the title Don't forget about me today And then and then she was wearing that fight half fight shirt like get the fuck out of it Like seriously what is go what is going on? It was just very old-fashioned I thought I thought it was a whole show was just silly and like women's matches I've been really silly in a long time and that was just like this is this is the moment you're going to get your cocoa for a piss It just felt stupid.
There was no like real consequences. There was no it just felt like a you know a bit of a filler Maybe something will come from it Maybe on raw if Natali comes out says you know you can't beat me real and then we have a you have a rematch on raw and And it's you know Charlotte still wins but at least this time I'd like to see I'm still holding out hope Natali's gonna win it tonight at raw I don't think it's just it just make you the lesson No, I know why would they why would they start making sense now? I don't know why now after all this time and we'll see we'll see what's speaking of not making any fun Whoever don't we get on to the made event? Sorry styles versus rains Rains getting booed more than I've heard anyone's a good quite strong boo.
Oh Christ. It was it was a tough boo Age of styles wins by account out matches restarted AJ styles wins via disqualification March is restarted and he still doesn't win Still he still doesn't win like what like literally like what the fuck were they thinking for this entire card spoken? Like what were they thinking it just doesn't and the whole thing where it's like oh well was hell of a match hell of a match Well, do you think I just have to serve a rematch? No, no, I fucking don't think he deserves a rematch because in the kayfay world He had three bites of the chair and still could get a fucking job done is it was just pathetic It was pathetic.
It was just another way of trying to get one versus all over and it ain't gonna happen He isn't getting over anytime in the near future Like I think at some point rains will get over because he's not as bad as the booze reflect like he's not that bad You know, I think it's fun for us now to sort of be rain Yeah, I enjoy waiting to see how big the booze gonna be different part of the show Don't think he deserves to get booed that badly, but you will get booed that badly if you keep fucking booking him like this He gets beaten down of three people and still wins who is gonna believe like anybody who comes again Who's gonna believe that styles will win the rematch nobody? But there's parts of it where I thought fuck, you know Star styles has to win this and then the whole storyline leading to the next pay-per-view is rains got screwed again You know that and that would be a great story, but it would be better than what they're doing But instead he's gonna come out on Raw and yes that styles is in is in the rematch. What can style say now? What can I say what it's the same thing with Zane like he was beating more decisively than Zane was You know, it's like it's just it's just ridiculous It's just absolutely fucking ridiculous and you're gonna have a month now I'm telling you right now everybody and I'm sure like cuz Carl said, you know, we want you know, Raw's could be strong They've set it all in so well hopefully Raw will be really strong.
I'm telling you right now. We're in for a tough month We're in for a tough month because it's gonna be the fallout from payback last night at this tonight Sorry, so you'll be the fallout from that and then it's gonna be new rivalries and then you know The people just gonna get thrown together again And then he'll be AJ Styles versus Roman Reigns again, which I like because I like AJ being in that main event So I think he deserves it. He totally deserves it But man What the fuck? You know, I mean, it's not even it's not even the fact they lost because we can all safely assume later gentlemen He's gonna lose it's just three bites of this fucking cherry now and he's still lost, you know And it's just like it's like one spear and that's it He hits a phenomenal forearm and he gets his leg on the rope.
It's like Christ. Of course, he gets his leg on the rope It's just too After watching it, you just think what are they doing to Reigns like Reigns is getting in right reigns is possibly the only WWE champion in the history the only world champion in the history of wrestling to be buried by his own booking By his own strong booking is getting buried like nobody like yeah, it's each ourselves. We know we check the t-shirts I was always in the top five, you know But do they do they not do they not want that moment where Reigns is holding the belt of his head in the crowd's going mad Do they not want it because they don't seem like they want it they seem like they're enjoying him getting his career fucked And it's just yeah, it's just tiring. It's boring.
I don't want to see anymore and unfortunately we're gonna see it for a long Time. Yeah, well, it's just shaping up to be a really uneventful year It's just how to see him. I just feel like I'm waiting for Rawlins a little bit Yeah, I just think they are waiting for Rawlins to come back But there's no harm in the title moving around a little bit in the meantime But reigns still being in that picture thing with that is then reigns then becomes like the third time They'll be jumping five times six times seven time and then you get to a scene mode Yeah, you've got more titles than Rick Blair or at least the same amount of titles as Rick Blair Because because he's always in the main spot line. He just keeps him pass around.
You know, it's so fun It is I just I just find it weird that the same guy has to always wait And I just find it really odd. I mean that you think I'd get that now You know gonna rest in front for a while you think I'd get it Yeah, the guy who's at the top has to look strong and win I don't I don't get it. I don't see why it has to be the thing that they do I don't see why someone else can't win. It's not that big a deal If if Reigns got it again the day after Christ or maybe maybe someone has it for a week You don't have to take Reigns his face off anything.
You don't have to change all your marketing You can just keep it all there. It's already waiting for when Reigns gets a title back because we know it'll happen But just you know let someone else have a go It'd make a really crazy ending to a show and you would tune in the next night for all Yeah, if it was on a pay-per-view What's to me like in the way that the booking things they don't even need him to drop the fucking title They just if they should have been a disqualification Gallows and Anderson get involved and that's it that's the way it ends and Reigns can fight the three of them off and still be champion and then Sal has got this thing where he can say you guys screwed me out on that title I may have won and then Then that builds into extreme rules as an extreme rules match. That's what builds it up What are they gonna build up now? Well styles lost clean.
Oh styles lost clean But because he did so well, we're gonna give him a rematch who gives a shit Mm-hmm like who gives a shit apart from the people who like us This is me like thinking objectively and trying to get people's over as a physical camp Who is going to care over than AJ Styles fans at AJ's in the main event again? Nobody all the 12 year old kids like watching his own are gonna look at it and go yay Roman beat him again Mummy why is Roman having to fight that guy's already beat? Three bites of the fucking cherry and still couldn't get it done. I like that's what people think That's what the casual fans will be thinking.
Why is he in the main event? He didn't get screwed out of it He's screwed out nothing. You know why why would you care about this rivalry now? It's over.
It's done The rivalry is finished. Oh, in versus Zane has finished. He has definitively beat him Why would anybody other than the fans, you know, and I did a little marks above my head for people who are watching us Why would anybody care and it makes me angry because the fucking they know it as well, but it's so short-sighted It's like well, we'll just throw these two together again. Fuck it.
Yeah, I know it. Well, what will happen? What the way will count right? What the way will fucking wait?
We can't wrap this is stars comes out. He hits the forearm again, you know, and then wait, so I was a stronger again. No go I can't sing. I'm really it's the forearm guarantee.
Yeah, I'm lazy mal Current guarantee it because the have to because otherwise nobody will fucking believe after three goes the fourth time's gonna be the charm Go fuck yourself big time pole time bitches. Do you want me to do that? Oh, excellent 50 votes in the last hour Thanks very much for voting everyone. That's one of our best ever over the mother baller or was or not gonna turn up And a little segue space jump to strending shit again We know books bunny if he does a cross over move on even lays it up Anyway, the poll what do you think of payback last night and it greatly differs for what I thought and 6% of the poll and Taking third place is bad six percent said but 36% of said poll and I do like your motives that you put in there as well Said mare which means the first place with 58% they said good on this particular occasion.
I do not agree I I would say it was mare. I think good relates to the standard of matches I think mare really relates to what the fuck were they thinking for everything and maybe in a day time because I'll watch it I'll pop it back on again and just you know like a normal doable You know what to think again and try and take a different you know a country spawns trying to look look at it from a different angle And I will do that maybe on the next show I'll retract some things I've said but that's my knee-joke reaction The knee-joke reaction is this right royal habit Why do I care about any of these rivalries now? And it's to me the flops and because it's too busy trying to protect the Roman Empire It's too busy like you know not knowing what to do with certain people and it's just We out we out we out so thanks very much for listening everyone. It's been a somber show But I hope you've enjoyed my rants.
I've enjoyed mrants as well. I really enjoyed your round. Thank you darling. I'm gonna go I'm a cigarette and Re-coup Re-energized rebuild rebuild.
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