Hello everyone and welcome once again to RTM Reacts to the Royal Rumble where your 115,764 Fager Wrestling podcast on the internet a week to come together to bring you our thoughts, opinions on the number one brand in sports entertainment. Remember to join us in the conversation, find us at RTM Wrestling on Twitter and as we stand this is supposed to podcast in full onto YouTube and SoundCloud when it's already, my name is Andy, as always I'm joined by the pocket rockets. Emma, how are you doing? I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, it's a tired old place that we're in right now so we've just got over.
Yes, I've always dropped several octaves. Indeed, my voice has gone, when Samajain came out, it's not like, yeah we're in some other Royal Rumble. So first as always with any RTM Wrestling show, we read out your tweets. So first of all we got Steven at Sorrel, which is a very good WWE right at website called letstalkwbwe.com and I said I felt the Rumble took a shine away from everybody but a handful, 90 seconds to job.
The next one is at Dean's Baby Girl 85, a spot that matched the pay-per-view is named after, brought the whole pay-per-view to Shane. And we got at J Unerscore, F will it 89, they'll be tagged into the tweet with a show to go and follow all these guys and he's put this Triple H one, just not believable to me and then we finish this off. At WWE Lock and Talk, who's support excellent show, top to bottom, I like them changing up with Triple H and Ambrose at the end. So thanks very much for tweeting guys, it's been a very quick response for this, we normally give it a couple of hours but we wanted to get this done and get to bed so to speak for this one.
So let's go through what we're here to talk about, we're here to talk about the Royal Rumble. Now first of all, crowd very good into motion things from the start. I didn't think they were particularly smarty, I didn't think they were particularly out of line with anything they came out with or anything like that. So we started off, let's go over the kickoff Shall we?
I started off with the main card was Dean Ambrose versus Kevin Owens in the last month's Sunday match. Great match. Great match. Exactly what all in it to be.
Obviously cheering for Owens but with Ambrose winning, it leaves Owens open to do all the stuff, he's tied down as the Intercontinental Champion so it was perfect for me, the match was great, the finish was great, they just up the game. It was a great way to kick off the show, well as I say, kick off out of the show, this is the best way to kick off the show really. Yeah definitely. It was just so so good.
I just like those two, I just really like them, they can rest like you forever if they want, I'll watch. Yeah definitely and it sort of, it brings home the facts that, and we've said this many times on the show, is that you've got people like these two and there's a few others as well and there's more coming up from the show the other day that have it all. So they don't necessarily just have the persona, they have the rest of the ability as well and it's getting to a stage now where there are people who don't and are slightly off and even ones that we may like if we feel like, oh those guys need time, if they need time get ready because that's what's letting the show down at the moment and I thought this really kicks off really well and has brought it back a little bit for me. Do you want me to fill the sign?
No let's go for the next one. New date versus the Usos, let's take that one next to the WWE Attack Team title match. Yeah I'm over the Usos but I always happy over the Usos but I remember one would, I remember those only couple of days ago when we were talking about the predictions and I was like oh the Usos get an amazing reaction from the crowds talking about the crowd, they're really behind and really excited to see them, not so much, not so much. The crowd kind of um, booed their way through it every time the Usos got a move in.
So it's a bit um, yeah it's a little bit surprising. Yeah I mean that's the thing with a very adult heavy crowd, I mean the Usos is over as um you know as the as they are normally but I mean for me like the new day didn't need to win that, I'm glad they did. They didn't need to potentially win that. Um and I'm a bit over do so now as well.
Yeah I mean they need to change your up but not just be the same and it's nothing that they're doing wrong. They put on great matches, it was another great match tonight but even when they were hitting their supposed to finish and stuff the crowd were a bit dead when they're doing that. So it's like I think I think we're in a time now where anything new is becoming you know it's becoming like an interesting thing, anything that you've seen before is a bit tired, it's a bit like they just do the same thing, and they are rinsing repeating a lot of things which we'll get onto a bit later. But yeah I mean going forward all of the new day being attacked team title holders, they can in my opinion anybody could come up, anyone could go down, they'd lock a talk, it's just tweeting saying that they need something fresh in there, attack team up potentially isn't soft.
Well you know my thoughts on that. Yeah definitely, definitely yeah so that's a really interesting one but again good match, it's a really good solid match and it's a really you know it's an interesting one for me. Okay next up United States Championship match El Berto at the LAO versus a car, El Berto. I don't think this was a big surprise the outcome of this match, I think it was gearing towards, yeah, I think so when just because he'd been bullied so much and I know, I thought it's always that on the dog tail isn't it?
Yeah see because I wasn't I wasn't 100% certainly winning, I wanted him to win, I was uneven said on the prediction show that this is the one I won the most. He was getting bullied too much for it to be, he was so bad. Yeah but they were bullying the league and the earth coined by Aunt Teddy's legend, you know they've got to be shown it's quite strong at the moment because the trust grew over reigns. So that's why I thought oh well that's that's his current so him born.
Yeah, I know it was good. Two-time United States champion, getting doing some open challenges at the top, it's a really good but yeah another really really good match, enjoyed it much later. Okay, WWE Divas at title match Charlotte versus Becky Lynch. I may have fell asleep through this.
She may have fell asleep through this. Which I'm really looking forward to it because you know I'm a massive Becky Lynch fan, so I woke up as Charlotte was taking a win, it's a great time to wake up so I literally missed everything. I didn't even see the, I don't even remember the bet like the entrances for them. And then obviously Sasha Banks came out so I saw that.
So you all have to fill in on what the match was like. Yeah I mean I was kind of tweeting and thanks to everybody that was tweeting us all through the night. It was an absolutely amazing response and all the polls got like 30-40 votes on him in like a short space of time so thank you very much for that guys it's really cool to talk to you all. But for me like the match because I was saying on Twitter before like I hope you tell the house down, I hope you kind of look at this as Sasha Banks and Bayley did for NXT take over Brooklyn.
And he didn't quite get to that standard put you know that was potentially the best women's match of all time so you can't really be angry at that but it was a very solid match, it was a very good match. There's a tad bit of me, there's like 10% of me that he's kind of like well you know Becky kind of got tossed aside a little bit at the end there. She's so did. I didn't see the match so I can't really comment on it that much but I woke up and I think the first word's out of mouth was oh poor Becky.
Yeah yeah. Because she's kind of like out of the picture now. She's been you know that's her done and I felt like she was just getting warmed up and just getting started really and it's like what's to become of her now? What's her role in all this?
She's a bit of an anomaly now, she's not total diva and she's not on that side of things yet she's not in this title shot that's now gonna go on for two months and so what on earth is she gonna do? And that's a bit that's a bit good in to be honest but hey what can you do? Yeah I mean I mean I mean I mean you heard what the crowd was like when Sasha's music hit. You know it was a huge pop fantastic pop, probably third biggest pop of the night and you know it's weird it's a really weird one because that's the match we want to see on a WrestleMania stage but there is that little bit of bad taste in the world.
Becky's have to be sacrificed here for this and the crowd will be eyeing the crowd we're into the match. When have you ever seen a pay-per-view match between two women where the crowd rucks are paying attention like in the last year? Yeah I mean it was good obviously from what you've said and how I imagined those two will wrestle. They're gonna put on an amazing show but you are right Becky was the sacrificial lamb and that's why you know when I said two in the last show that we did and I would say I feel like it's a little too soon for it's weird it's happened very fast for her.
And that's why she was feeling a boy so that they could do this big match that they really want to do. Which is really sad. I mean obviously it's not the end good audience just getting started but to me it's a mild annoyance. Yeah it just kind of felt like a filler, a sort of filler match.
But it was great and I like what you said I mean and I'll go back and watch it again now that I'm awake well maybe after I've had a sleep. But yeah no I'm good on him, good on him. And it's good to see Sasha Banks back. Definitely in the filler match is you know it's more interesting when it's decent wrestlers.
Yeah you know and there's and there's fillers matches all over the place. There's fill matches all over the card up and down at any one time. But yeah I mean that pop for Sasha which came out on the whole thing when you thought she was on the side and then she turned on her and just the crowd popping for that I just thought right this is what they wanted. This is what they call the Divas revolution which they should stop using because it's just really sad.
But you know that's this is the reaction they want they want a crowd reaction. Now I could be wrong here. I could be very wrong but I don't remember that story actually when the bell is turned on each other. No.
I was actually excited for that. I remember saying like oh this could be quite interesting. Yeah that's not that was everybody's fault that was you know they're not well you know Nicky's a bit better but they're not great on the mic and the writing of that whole thing just poor. I wish she'd have died in the wind.
It was just poor. I mean I don't mind them saying payments like that but they just kind of didn't carry on it just fizzled out it was just a bit nah wasn't it. So there was no one was fully committed to that at the time which thought. Yeah yeah definitely.
But yeah we're very good March and I love to the end it. So then we get to the Royal Rumble match. Yes I was awake at this point. I literally felt like a one match and I was back in the room back in the room and ready and ready to go.
And it was very interesting and what I've put on Twitter is there's quite a few interesting seeds that I've implanted during this and I can see on the art Twitter feed in particular there's quite a lot of speculation of what is going to happen from it and it could go quite a few different ways. I mean the big rumours to start with was AJ Styles turning up he turned up very early to some awful music. Yeah really weird. But yeah because we were like who the hell is this and why is it camera still on Roman Reigns' face?
Yeah when the crowd are like popping massively. I mean that was the biggest pop I can remember of the night. I'd probably say it was like AJ like Brock and Sami Zayn probably on the same sort of one and then Sasha Banks. But yeah I mean as a Royal Rumble match I thought it was really strong.
There was some part of it that I was like oh that's up. Yeah there was some annoyances in there. There was some kind of pointless moments in there but god it was a damn sad about it in last year. Oh god yeah.
I just remember coming out of it and just feeling like this is the most disappointing road to WrestleMania ever. You know it was the debut of Fastlane which we now know is the shittest pay for you of the year so at least prepare ourselves this year. It's going to be terrible. But last year it was like oh my god it was just one thing after another.
Daniel Bryan getting thrown out of there really early. Reigns getting booed to fork and you know the rock I believe afterwards was like well he came out and he was like looking a bit like what? Yeah he was like proper you know like angry and like he deserves this and he was like oh god this is pathetic. It was just lame.
Last year just wasn't great and I remember not particularly being 100% on board with WrestleMania last year. It's only when I watched the highlights a bit back now that I could appreciate it a bit more for the time you know. I just wasn't buying the Roman Reigns thing and no one was hence why they changed their tune. But yeah I mean it's certainly more exciting.
It's certainly more exciting. Definitely and the thing that I mean like AJ Styles turned off is insane for me like I never thought that would happen. So that was really cool and he got a great amount of time. Didn't really do much but he got a really good amount of time to be in there.
You know there was really fun moments when like you know Kofi got eliminated. Yeah they didn't show it because it was he stretching Roman Reigns out but they showed it in a replay. So they still showed it. So whatever.
Yeah there was just some interesting times. I mean when it got to like the final five I was a bit like. Yeah oh yeah that was a bit. But you knew we both knew who was you know there's only like two people.
Yeah and I think when we talked a few shows back again about who was possibly gonna win and everything and then it was only the day after I was like oh do you know what why why did I not run with the whole Triple H thing? Yeah why did I not run with it? Because it's someone tweeted and I don't know. It was like a talk you said Triple H is a guy.
Yeah and we'd send it to the beginning of the show but then I was like oh no no I think this and this it was all the day after I was like do you know what the right? Yeah. On the right of course it's Triple H. Simple reason that not everyone's on board with Roman Reigns at the moment.
Yeah. And the only way is to be mean to him. So he's the underdog because people like him and root for him and they're throwing everything they can at this. Yeah he's literally they couldn't be doing anymore.
No this is it you know the Vince is back you know like Steph you know the Steph Vince am triple H. So you've got the verbal abuse and you've got actual physical abuse to ask him now and the stole his title of him. The authorities got the title there he knows no one likes them you know in a heel sense. Yeah.
So that what more can they do if people are still doing Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania when he inevitably wins then they need to give it all they just need to rethink that. I mean this is interesting I'm seeing on Twitter and I don't understand where it's coming from if I'm being honest about I'm not gonna name names but there's plenty of people it's not just a two that I'm seeing there's quite a few that come through. I'm saying that it's gonna be like Triple H rock at Wrestlemania just because of teasing the past. Right okay.
I just I'm just assuming it's gonna be Roman Reigns they'll get about that Roman Reigns should have played. I don't see why he would Roman Reigns would win it in a fast lane. So I mean this is a good thing though is it sparks opinion. Yeah and people don't know usually now it's tied up in my head it's tied up in my head it's just gonna be fast lane's just gonna be a non-entity or some like shit thing whatever.
Remember as well everyone fast lane is so close to Wrestlemania no one does anything risky it's the tame most chilled out paper view ever because no fucker wants to get injured it'll take a chance to match the shine. So nothing crazy is gonna happen at fast lane and I'm just I just my head can't get past the fact that they're gonna bully Roman Reigns to get trying out a little bit of Daniel Bryan fairy dust on it when they were bullying him and everyone rooted for him and he's just gonna win his belt back at Wrestlemania and he'll have his Wrestlemania moment that he was so denied last year because the crowd just went on board. Yeah I mean that's the that's what I think. However it's very interesting to see what other people say because it's like shit this is probably a bit more up in the air maybe.
I can't get past it I don't see why Triple H wins the Royal Rumble and then drops the belt at fast lane like because that because that doesn't to me that puts Roman Reigns back. If he drops if Triple H drops the title to Reigns at fast lane it means that again like you know Reigns is going in with the title and everybody fucking doesn't like Reigns with the title. It's about it for it and defend it. I think he'll be trying for it at Wrestlemania.
Yeah that's what I think it's gonna do. You know like they can't they can't get past it he is the new guy there's no John Cena at the moment and I don't miss him but they do need they do want some of this desire of this having a super sour in front of the company I think those days are over I don't think they need to do that anymore forwards they do and they really want someone and he's the guy. Oh just one guy that's like a kid's favourite yeah yeah and he is popular he's more popular than he was last year yeah much you know still getting booed but it's a step from last year yeah and you know what if they're still not on board they'll try again next year and they'll keep trying and they'll keep trying and they'll keep trying and they've decided that that's who we look at. Yeah and it is interesting to see this because it is a case of like throwing off shit some of of it'll stick and they are trying everything.
Everything because if if someone is said to me like Triple H is gonna be WWE World Heavyweight Champion again I'd be like no chance I would have literally said this time last year I was leading into a sting and I was like oh well he's gonna obviously do his WrestleMania's but he's never gonna have the belt again or be fighting the belt he's gonna have these big marquee matches up people what's he the fact that he's won the title is crazy to me I agree but in a good way yes like I'm not I don't think it's shit like a few people think it's like the worst thing that could possibly happen. I think the worst thing that could possibly could have happened Roman Reigns retaining it would have been it would have been so boring and he would have finished him off career wise. Yeah it would have been awful. But the thing is with Triple H winning if anyone else would have won and gone into WrestleMania say let's fuck wrestling off WrestleMania and Reigns is trying to win it back everybody else is likeable in some capacity even for the massive heel.
Yeah Ray Wyatt won people still root the why but you're not rooting for Triple H because it's the authority we trained not to you know like they're like super heels people love that people love it but it's they're fun to do they're really fun to do so like naturally it doesn't matter who they go against they could go against you know Triple H can go against Bo Dallas and that people probably root for Dallas. Do you know what I mean? Or Adam Rose for God's sake because it's just a cartoon authority thing so there's no one else that they can guarantee either in my opinion just mine that the crowd will kind of you know that will make the crowd galvanize behind Reigns it's Triple H or bust. Yeah I mean I get what you mean I don't think that's gonna happen though because Triple H is not disliked.
No I know it's not like the Daniel Bryan effect. But people subconsciously even if they really really really like Triple H they know we ain't keeping the title whereas anyone else it could be a bit of a disappointment when they lose it when Triple H losing the title is inevitable so you just you kind of it's not a shocker it's not anything to go about you know he's going you know he's gone for a limited time only so it's an easy appeal to swallow when Reigns eventually gets it back yeah yeah and he's the authority you know I don't know I mean this this is just me spitballing yeah I totally get it I just think that it's all a massive massive push just a final push to get people to actually like this guy yeah and I totally agree that's exactly what they're doing I don't think it's gonna work though no because Triple H is not going to work on me. No yeah well Triple H is too much in the public eye doing all these amazing things he did this stuff on Instagram playing around with him like doing make wishes and all this sort of stuff anybody loves NXT which is gonna be 100% of the WrestleMania crowd 100% of the WrestleMania can't all know what NXT is so they're not gonna boot Triple H the leader of the new brand that they like so they're not gonna boot him yeah there's no situation I see and maybe these guys are right and some else is gonna happen and Reigns will be going into WrestleMania against somebody else who's a bit more hated but I don't see it I don't see Roman Reigns pulling off a title win and the crowd going mad like they did for Daniel Bryan WrestleMania. They'll they might try and bolster him up with the use of the rock because the rock's supposed to be going to be there isn't it?
I think Rock a lot of them are through somebody though I think Rock a lot to have a match. I think if they brought like they did with Royal Rumble even though people were still doing I think we're still bringing Rock out at the end if Reigns won. Maybe I don't know I'm going like but this is cool like I like kind of not 100% knowing but kind of thinking I do. Yeah I want to be wrong like I really badly want to be wrong I want something I just want something I don't want it to go into WrestleMania and it be what I'm expecting.
I like it to be something completely random. Yeah maybe Reigns is the undertake and match this year. It's like what? Yeah it could be just don't know it could be anything it could be absolutely maybe Triple H or Golden Spray Wyatt you know they had a bit of a moment in the ring.
Yeah yeah not good but yeah it's it's who knows I hope I'm wrong. Yeah I mean for me this whole show has been different yeah and that's what I've been crying out for and the whole like you know focal point towards the main event slot in this isn't it isn't showing because everybody gets to this amount of time and everybody gets to show off what they can do apart from people in the Royal Rumble match because if they did it before five hours long. Yeah if everybody got what they deserved but for me like the rest of the card is now stronger so you've got interesting things going into WrestleMania so is it going to be Lesnar against the Wyatt's which is like all four of them which is pretty you know it could happen. You know you've got as you called so many months ago Zayn against Owens WrestleMania potentially depends where they go with it.
You've got Dean Ambrose who it still slots into that versus the authority but it was interesting that it was Ambrose and Triple H at the end and not Reigns Triple H at the end. That surprised me massively yeah I was really surprised at that. I mean but they're trying to still keep Reigns strong like he got thrown out from behind it wasn't like a one on one thing. Anybody find it a bit ironic that Triple H eliminated Dolph Ziggler?
Oh yeah it was a hound on Ziggler didn't he? It was a bit of a shot in. No I know he just went well he don't even think. Yeah I thought it was funny.
Yeah but all in all I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it and I think a lot of it was because we watched it live as well and we were tweeting and everything and that was that makes a massive difference watching it the day after you might have had a bit spoiled for you and you have to work and all of that shit but yeah although we can't do this every time and I wouldn't for a lot of the pay per views but it was nice it was really good and I enjoyed it I enjoyed it a lot more than I enjoyed last year's show. It's a lot stronger and the doors open there's a lot of opportunities I think but surprises. Yeah definitely I agree I completely agree and I don't necessarily disagree with people who have not enjoyed it and are negative because obviously everybody's got their own opinion and there's no wrong answer to this thing but I would say what you want.
What do you actually want from it? Because like the main events I don't really interest me self with because I don't like rounds that's why I look to load down the card and that's what does it for me. I don't get what people want at times and it was so much better than last year and that's all we can ask for and they've got so many injuries that you know the pulling off miracles. That's all that everybody's not just turning it off because the talent that they've got isn't the strongest as it could be.
Any more comments for the Royal Rumble? You asking me? Yeah. No I don't think so I'm excited to see whether or not they do pursue the Owen Zayn thing.
I don't think that's anytime soon I think the planting a seed for next year. I think it's an early early early seed for that one because I think Zayn's going to go back to my next tea and I think it'll be too quick just trying to squeeze all that shit in and it'll mean Zayn's on the main show every show. I don't want to try and get that momentum going. Well maybe that's why they've filmed all the NXT tokens too much.
Maybe who knows I'd like them to give it a bit more time. I'd like them to have a full year of like a vignette of building and building and building and building. Yeah and costing each other shit and I really like that. I don't want them to just rush this because it was phenomenal in NXT and they've just got so much footage from childhood and all this shit.
Childhood from NXT. Yeah exactly. So yeah I'm just I'm buzzing about that and Sami Zayn coming out was my highlight of the whole show because I wasn't expecting it. Even though you called it so many months ago you said the best thing to do when it was fucking ages ago when you said that and I was like no it's too early.
You know a few people jumping on the bandwagon saying that they called it. No you didn't. But yeah it's gonna be I think WrestleMania is interesting now and even with the rocks coming back and stuff like that I understand why they do I'm not that bothered about them but you know they sell tickets and all that just. Right so let's finish the show as we always do at the moment with a little poll I said are you happy with the Royal Rumble?
What did you think we got three options in third place with a whopping at six percent of the poll said it was bad in second place with 24% they said yeah and a huge 70% said good and that was just over the last hour based on 54 people voted. Thanks very much for having everybody and thanks very much for listening. I've done two shows today. We've pretty much gone 24 hours out of sleep.
I thought we'd fly well there. Yeah raining in because they are tired. This is so tired I was gonna go get in bed right now. This show wasn't sponsored by anybody.
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