X-Light's Nicholas Kelez and Pat Gelsinger on government-...

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Pat Gelsinger spent 35 years across two stints at Intel, most recently as CEO. Nicholas Kelez is the CEO of X-Light, a semiconductor startup developing breakthrough EUV laser technology for next-generation chipmaking. In this conversation, they unpack what it takes to wake Moore's law from its nap, why the U.S. government just became X-Light's second-largest shareholder, and how faith and deep tech are shaping the future of American competitiveness in the AI era. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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