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Host Shirley Rooker speaks with psychotherapist and author Jill Robin Payne about various ways to alleviate stress, including “Bempathy,” a way of creating empathy through casual conversation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Host Shirley Rooker speaks with psychotherapist and author Jill Robin Payne about various ways to alleviate stress.

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