You Can Be Right or You Can Be Rich with Christopher Shutts

In this episode of Fearful Giants, Clay sits down with Christopher Shutts, co-founder of BigMachines (acquired by Oracle) and Logik.ai (acquired by ServiceNow). Chris has spent his career building companies that shaped the way complex products are sold.Chris shares what it was like starting BigMachines before most companies understood cloud software, nearly running out of money, rebuilding culture after painful layoffs, and later starting again as CEO of Logik to see if he could take a company from zero to exit, with him at the helm.What You'll Hear:Why fear has been both a driver and a challenge throughout Chris’s careerThe culture mistake that nearly broke BigMachinesWhat it really feels like to wake up at midnight worrying about your companyWhy prioritizing as a CEO is harder than most founders expectThe lesson that changed how Chris built culture the second timeWhy he believes culture beats strategy every timeIf you're curious how a two-time successful founder relates to fear - this one's for you.Follow or subscribe wherever you listen. And if this hits, send it to a founder who needs to hear it.Connect with Christopher Shutts:Website: https://www.logik.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-shutts-0622237/Email: [email protected] with Clay:Website: https://15sixty.com/LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/claystelzerEmail: [email protected]: Z0FBHRQGTPX9OMDB