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May 7, 2025 46 min

“You Can Vandalize Your Own Book”

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The Best Hang is talking the “Try Hard” book tour, Nathan Fielder’s “The Rehearsal”, how to approach starting a conversation with a celeb, and Shane prepares for an audition in front of L.A producers.

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This is the best hang podcast featuring Max German, Shane Cunningham and I and Mike German. Welcome to the best hang podcast. I'm Mike, we got Max, we got Shane and we got all three of us here in person. It's been a minute pod listeners.

Since we've last potted, something's changed. We're now sitting here with a best selling author, Max. Shaking a little bit. There's a little bit.

Yeah, there's a different air about it. Yeah, people are looking at me different these days. I came in here. You forgot our names already.

Max, good to meet you. But I want to give a shout out to the two gentlemen sitting in front of me because you helped in so many ways. You always helped me. But on the week of the book, I did this event at Harvard Collegiate and you guys helped me put together that show.

And then when I got to Calgary on the Thursday, I needed to reimagine the show for the Calgary audience. Because for those who weren't there, there was this opening one man show style bit where I'm sitting on a computer and I'm talking to myself, okay, I'm an author now. I'm at my book launch. I make this great.

And it got big laughs in Toronto. And then we rewrote the script in Calgary and it also killed in Calgary. That was so great. I feel like I just want to take this one man show on the road now.

Well, I need to pause the acclaim for one second because I was helpful, I think, in I'm going to help you and what not to say. I don't think any of my ideas made it through the full post. That's right. We all get good.

Not for the Calgary show. But the other show I feel like some did. I got the Drake joke in, which was funny. What's the Drake joke?

My close personal friend Drake. What's the relationship? No, I use that joke in Toronto. So the punch-up for Calgary made my take your chance.

But no, but you were all part of it. We were in our group chat. The book came out on Tuesday. The event was on Tuesday.

Most people listened to the plot. We did Toronto with it. The week's end. The first event was in Toronto.

We did Calgary and then we had a peg and then handled it. You go out west and then you start hitting the group chat. We just start pitching jokes for you to sort of amend the bit. It's fun because I like seeing your jokes.

It's a little stupider. I like going to rain. It's fun to pitch those. We heard from you two.

It killed in Calgary. The stuff we were coming up with on the fly, which was good. It killed Mike's addendum in the Calgary voiceover. I'm here for the book event today and actually I'm back in July for the stampede.

Maybe I'll just stay until then. Buy some boots to Donna Stetson. Look into a long-term Airbnb. Maybe I'll fall in love with a nice Alberta girl.

Write a country record. Get a library card because I'm at the library. Or maybe I'll just get on a plane home tomorrow and carry all the amazing memories from today with me. Because Lord knows I'll never be able to forget how much I love Edmonton, which is a call back.

I mean, Calgary. Because you opened the thing saying that you remember the one time you were lasting Calgary. I won't do that thing again where I called everyone Calgary. I said it was great to be back in Edmonton.

Did you grow up in my library card? No, no. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. What you didn't say was the last time I played a library is when I skipped out of my late fees after renting the DaVinci code.

Which is also great. That's funny. It takes a second. You said it was a stupid joke.

I think it was a smarter joke. Oh, it's too clever. You don't think people of Calgary were up to the... No, I was up for it.

I was up to stupid. The last time I played a Calgary was when I didn't pay the library. You got played. You got played.

It was just so smart. DaVinci code random funny reference that someone would get from the library. I love it. Yeah, it was the only book I could think of.

Because it was also a movie. Yeah. Yeah. I read DaVinci code.

Is DaVinci code? That's not about libraries. That's about art, right? It's like archaeology.

It's like archaeological artifacts. Is it like uncovering myths and lies? Yeah. And then he sort of DaVinci code eventually leads to sort of the origins of Jesus Christ.

A lot of that. Interesting. But there's a whole adventure along the way in guns and a murder off the top. It's like populist fun.

I enjoyed it a lot. I will say that I buy the Calgary show. I felt really locked in. I was nervous for the Harvard show.

And there's all these different blocks to the show that I needed to hit. And the opening I was like, I don't worry about it. I had this long story, but the TV SD and the permit. But I was very happy with it.

But then by the second date, I was like, I could do the show. Yeah. The conference was building. I did text Unzi or Unzi sent me a nice text.

And I said, what do you mean with us? Yeah, you came. Which was great. I tell you, you're here.

Well, listen, the show, you were doing it on a Tuesday. She was in the library office. Unzi was in town. Pops was around.

So we ended up, I think I did some ball just from the day. It doesn't matter. Anyway, long story long. We're like, what are we going to do for the show?

And then we're like, what are the cake? She sent us a cake and we're away from the kids and the fan. We got a max event happening at eight o'clock or whatever it was. So we decided to go to the king and have some steaks and some brew doggies.

That's great. It was great. But I got a text from maybe, or you, and it was maybe like two in the afternoon. You're like, hey, do you mind coming by at five to the venue?

Because I guess you were going to run it and I just wanted some eyes on it and make you put some stuff up. And I was like, yeah, I mean, I got dinner plans. But if you really want some help, I'm down. And then the passive aggressive.

I'm like, what the hell are you doing? What the hell are you doing? What are you doing with you guys and have some laughs? But I was obviously going to help.

And I'm like, you said, throughout the week, we've been sort of helping with stuff. So I'm like, oh, I'll come and help. But then you're like, no, no, I think we got it. Which I didn't know then you wanted me to follow.

No, no, no. I insist. No, no, no. I was being over prepared in that moment.

There's only so much you could really do. There's more about if the girls in AV club are going to hit the spotlight on time. The teenagers need to be rehearsed. Because for their listeners, you had to use the high school kids as part of the deal for doing it at your high school.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole long routine about the TVSP and their permanent office and the rules using that space. But I did.

But as he said, the TVSP thing could have been cut a little tighter. Wow. He was going to be a little on the shelf. Did you like it?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's go. What do you guys think?

Should I take it on the road? We had thoughts walking out, but it was great. Okay. And I thought you were so endearing.

And I liked that you were a little bit nervous. In fact, I said to Mike, I could tell he was a little bit nervous. I'm not used to seeing Max like that. Well, Mike said I couldn't even tell.

Okay. So that's the good pocket to be in. I feel like I can only notice like a little micro difference. But I thought that's very endearing to see.

And I was like, yes, I agree that should have been cut maybe just a little bit. Yeah. But it's also kind of fun to go long. And it's very like, I don't know, like when you were talking like that, I thought you were very good.

You know, it's kind of feeling himself a bit much. Yeah. You know, it's one of those. It was great.

And I really think you were strong on your feet too when you did the Q&A portion. Yes. That's very strong. You're very funny in those situations.

And you're so quick, brained in those moments. I'm like, I wish I was like that. And then obviously ending with the song. Yeah.

Fuck Max is amazing. Thank you. That's a wicked way to end it. I was like, I was like, what was great was like it was a packed auditorium of people that were there on the journey with you.

And you could feel that. So it never felt like, all right, keep moving Kermit. Yeah. Except for my nine year old nephew, I asked him how he thought of the show.

And he said, it was long. Oh, that was going to be the worst. I had one split us on it for my brother. Didn't he just go, well, it's a song.

I can't report my heart out right in these ditties. Yeah. But that's not an idea. I feel like brother.

Or your thoughts on getting kind of roasted in a way when you called up your celebrity speakers. And they would report to like X or something. No, it was very funny. I like that.

I like that. Yeah. Oh, he was so funny. Because you're reading the portion about how Sam Roberts banned.

Like in your book, you talk about Sam Roberts or Sam Roberts banned. Oh, yeah. You chime in as he's reading, be like, Tom's not right there. I got to tell the audience that Sam Roberts is actually, it's not so easy to say that because I had to talk to the legal department, you either call them, the last Sam Roberts' band or whatever it was.

And then Tom's like, oh, yeah, Sam's a very litigious man. He's like, what do you think brother downs about a legal battle or something? And we saw Tom. I was like, that was funny.

I told him brother. Yeah. It's like a long long, and then you should bless you. Like when, like, it's just a sneeze.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then in Calgary, somebody said, like, oh, someone sounds so, like bless you. It worked, it worked great. It worked great.

How was the Calgary crowd? Calgary crowd was awesome. It was great, because I didn't know any of them really. You know, so it's kind of nice to play for people who.

Yeah, I feel like the room was probably packed with people. Like, yeah, my parents' friends and so on. It was kind of nice, too. I don't know if you must have felt this.

So it's, I think there's a lot of like, for people that write your events at Harvard. So we roll in, like, and it was packed. But there were a lot of pod listeners. There's a Venn diagram there.

People listen to the pod that are interested in your literary work, that are our Kelseyans, which we see. But I don't know, but I felt like the minute we walked in, you and I were kind of getting stopped. Like, it felt like we were meeting. Ooh, I like this.

And then after we were leaving, we got stopped. Like, it took us 20 minutes to get out, because so many great pod listeners stopped. I love this. And it was great to chat and watch on the X.

It's like I wasn't like I was John or Paul, but I felt like Ringo. You're the John or Paul in that situation. You're the John or George, and we were just, you know, rolling around. Well, one woman was talking to me, and I also heard this wrong, because she told me she was Evan Goldberg's sister.

Oh, no, maybe Evan Goldberg's friend. Yeah, but I kept telling everybody, hey, that's, you know, that woman who's talking to me was very nice. She's a curly hair? Yes, she's a female.

So nice. Yes. And, but I swear she said about it. I kept telling everybody.

And then during your performance, I looked it up to be like, oh my God, I can't believe I was talking to Evan Goldberg's sister, because I'm very into this showed studio right now, which he co-directs and wrote. But it turned out, yeah, it was just business partner. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Adrian.

Shout to Adrian. She's excellent. Yeah, it was awesome. How did you feel about it?

I felt very good, because I was nervous about it, and I was worried about the first, like the CDSP thing, and I think that was fine. I'm trying to blow up your thoughts. When Unzi sent you the note that it was a little, yeah, hurt me. Hey.

What would I do? Because we went to the Pomeranell Chatting. It was great, because we were with Myers, and a bunch of people, and we, and I just sent you, you guys both, I think, just saying great work, because you know, you guys put that show together, and the easiest thing in the world would have been to just do like a Q&A, but it was like this full-on production, which I think the people that went and made for a ticket in a book really must appreciate it. Yeah, it was great.

Hey, so that was that. Thank you guys very much for your contribution. Happy to contribute. Yeah, it would be far less funny and get a, for you guys.

So what's next for Max now? There's some more like appearances at Indigo's and things like that. Anytime I pass a bookstore, I walk into it, and I sign my copies of my book, and just leave it there. That's kind of a cool thing to do as an author.

You're just allowed to do that. Yeah, I can vandalize your own book. For real? Yeah, is anyone's thought up to you?

Yeah, maybe not that. The author assigned the book, and they can tell people. But how do they know the author's signed? Oh, it goes in a special like sign.

Damn, damn, brown books. They don't know if I'm fucking damn brown or not. No, let's give it a go. Did you mention Code?

When you go to the end of Go to Toronto, you're going to find a bit of a go inside by Dan Brown. Brown's spelled probably wrong. Yeah, you could. I mean, that would be a bad one.

I know what's happening. So okay, you're confident, Guy, you try hard. Did you expect to be a best-selling author? Were you aiming for it?

I mean, I was hoping, because I feel like, you know, I had a sense of, you know, what it takes to be a best-selling author. I was thinking, if enough are Kell's fans or like family friends and everyone buys in the first week, we could change. So I was going to have to miss it. You don't have to say obviously, but do you?

No. Anyway, it's a thing to hang your hat on. Oh, it's amazing. And onto the next thing.

I don't like numbers. I was at the gym with Dan, I was bench pressing, and he's like, Max, that's pretty good. And I was like, don't tell me how much I did. I don't want to know.

Who's becoming a wrestler? So I'm just like, that's so unsafe. If you go to the gym and you're just grabbing weights. Dan just tells you what to do.

I don't want to know how much money my bank account, how many books I've sold or how much weight I'm looking. Dan just tells you how much you bet. I think you can do this. I'm gonna have to spot you.

Yeah, wow. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dan just shaved his chest.

No way. Yeah, apparently. The wrestling thing is real when you shave your chest. Yeah, and he told Cebellie in the nut, and they were very encouraging of it, because that's when you know you're serious but wrestling if you should just.

Yeah. What about Raiser Ramone? I thought he was one of my favorites. And he had a very hairy greasy chest.

I mean, that was very, very unique. What's your chest looking like these days? It's fully grown. I see, I don't have enough hair to even say fully grown.

We're like eight hairs. What about you Mike? Oh, I got enough more hairs. No, I got, yeah.

Yeah, I do like a shit that the bars people love. They don't always kill. Dan, can you think of funny? She's so over my bits.

She knows all my stories and all my bits. Like if I'm telling some old anecdote that she's literally heard ten times, she'll be playing long if it's a new company. She's heard them all. Otherwise she just walks away.

Wait, what's going on? Tell me things. Watching things. Watching things.

Okay, one, love in the rehearsal. Me and you have been having a little bit of a dialogue about it. I need to watch a third episode still, which I have not. I've been loving it.

And I think Nathan's kind of back into my kind of obsessive breath. Because for a bit, Tim Robinson obviously was in the lead and Nathan took a back seat for a year or two. But now episode three has really got me thinking, I was listening to Ella mean did a podcast about the rehearsal this morning. Someone sent it to me.

Yeah, a pod listener sent it to me. And it just was talking about how brilliant Nathan Fielder is and how good the rehearsal the season two is. But you had messaged that maybe you're not as in on it as you had previously been in on other Nathan Fielder projects. And then I had a bath yesterday and I'm like, I'm going to watch the rehearsal and see what Max is talking about.

So I watched the latest episode, episode three of season two. And I was like, yeah, this show isn't as good as it should be for Nathan. The first 75% is a huge Nathan fan. I thought it was a wonderful one too.

And I haven't even gone up. So it's not good. I just, it didn't hook me in the way. It was like, I need to see.

It doesn't have like a crazy laugh. It's kind of like how Mike White said he's edging people in the beginning. So, but episode three, I'm watching it through Max's eyes almost. Not knowing you hadn't watched it.

So three, yeah, but that's what I thought you were texting. And 75% in, I'm like, this might not be great. The last 25% is amazing. Everything ties together in the 20s.

I was thinking of you so much watching it because it would make you laugh out loud in that classic Veremin cackle you do your best. Like there's two moments that will totally get you of all people the most. And it just ends so strong, so smart. And now I'm just like, especially after listening to Elamy's podcast, I'm like, Nathan's back in Genius mode where he's top of the pubs.

Wow. I think, by the way, I'm the biggest fan of Nathan for you. I loved, loved Nathan for you. I loved how to with John Wilson, the show he produced.

I also, I thought the curse was amazing. I know he liked that and corrected. I thought that was so good. I thought the first season of the rehearsal, like that his, his bit of like, like, let's say let's pray on odd people is a thing I'm always a little uncomfortable with.

I miss the first episode of the rehearsal season one was awesome. And then from then on, it just became a different show and it wasn't as good. So, so that, so I think when I was, was asking you, like, oh, Nathan, like, is it one of the tricks that you have up his sleeve? And I also, and I thought the, the curse, he really demonstrated.

Like, oh, he's actually have a great actor. And, and the tone touches on what makes him so good, but is different enough. Yeah. But then I was kind of, but as I was watching this, he's rehearsals, like I was doing, I'm doing it.

I'm enjoying it. And I can't wait to watch the third episode. And then I was like, I'm like, I'm going to watch this sort of, like, thing where you're just, I'm just going to like talk to strange odd people and kind of make fun of them. I was like, is this kind of the only thing he does?

But I'm excited to see him. That, you're indoors, man. Because that, because it was a train watch and I watched the first one. And then I slid over to and door because, you know, I like the, the no shit.

But you're endorsing right now is making me watch now knockout two and three, like on the train ride home. Yeah. Nathan's great about starting with the premise and then slowly turning the premise on himself. I don't think that's ruining anything by that because he does that with so many things, but it becomes about him and his insecurities, which is always the best humor self-ification.

You're the finale of Nathan for you is where he then kind of falls in love with the prostitute. Yes, of course. And that's one of my favorite. It's a film, actually.

It's like an hour and a half. Yes, it's fine. It's still good. You can buy it on iTunes right now.

But yeah, it's still our night. I'm not, no. We just got to wait. We just came somewhere.

I don't know if it's a dreamable. He gets into how certain things aren't available either. And I think because it's such a long thing, I don't know if that is available. Because I think I had to buy it even at the time when it came out.

The rehearsal that was currently available on Crave here in Canada. And I think it should be on stage. Yeah. Same.

So, Crave, why don't you think you've been slide over to St. Paul? Just leave me in all of it. So, we talked about this in a pod before we were at a friend's birthday party in LA.

And Nathan was at this birthday party in the same room. Shane, super fan, did not talk to Nathan. None of us actually talked to Nathan. Nathan was doing his own thing.

You don't want to bother people. Max, what would you have done in that situation? I've met Nathan before. I did you, David.

I just talked to him like an old guy. You met him years ago at Tim's place. You told me this? Yeah.

Well, I think we watched football together or something. I think about it in the same room. That's a great testament to how many things you've done that you meeting my idol is just one of the people. I was like, yeah, yeah.

What's the most? Great game. But what was it? Unsettling?

Was it awkward? No, he definitely has his Nathan rhythms, which are well documented. But what would I do? Like, I guess now that you've met him for what you've walked up to with the party.

Like, hey, Nathan, we watched his football. No, no, I wouldn't say that because he wouldn't remember that at all. But I would, I mean, I think he always got to go with the specific. No?

I mean, okay, I was going to say it's like, if you had a very specific question about how he made something, like as a craftsman, you know, I mean, it's like, just like ask that. But then you risk becoming too much of a fanboy, which may be a good thing. Like, what's the generic thing that you want to talk about in the culture or something that would just be like a funny thing to talk about? Well, okay, so let's say this is a bit like the rehearsal.

We could redo that party. Yeah. And we have this like old man who's acting as Malcolm McDowell. Yeah, he's Malcolm McDowell.

There. And we make a bit of a scene lining up and taking photos. And one friend promised that you get a group photo with everyone but he doesn't, which creates a lineup where everyone's getting photos with Malcolm McDowell. I fucked this up.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Malcolm McDowell is in Star Trek Generations, I'm a huge Star Trek fan. So I went up and I just started talking about generations and his character saw and in time as the fire which we burn.

And I mean, I'm in a thing, but I guess I did. I was supposed to bring in Shane with me and John and I don't know. Once you start a chat and it kind of fell apart. So we're supposed to get one photo, not make that much of a scene.

It turned into three separate photos with a flash on. So people are looking and like, oh, you can tell they're from out of town. So that's the scene. What do you do?

Then Nathan walks by as everyone's already kind of glared at you and noticed that you're a bit of an interloper. Did Nathan see you try to take the photos? No, just everyone else at the party. Oh, then that's okay.

Then Nathan doesn't know. I think. And also you need to make a joke and say like, who are the new guys taking photos of Malcolm McDowell? And then Nathan probably knows other people at the party.

And once you've talked to him and be like, hey, I got to know, how did you do that episode with the kids? I told me I always do Jay Leno when I'm here and I totally embrace that. But then Nathan would go, oh, I was asking a lot about this and be like, yeah, he was taking photos with Malcolm McDowell. I don't think anybody was thinking that.

And also we heard that Malcolm loves it. Like he wasn't like, we were covering up. But I can see Shane how we might look lame to other party goers. Yeah, I wasn't worried about Malcolm McDowell loving it or not.

Yeah. But I was just worried about the perception and I knew it would kind of cockblock my Nathan Fielder. You know, it is. I don't know what the opening line is.

You just say, hey, big fan and then keep it moving. It's stuff because it strikes me that somebody like Nathan like doesn't do well with anything earnest or even talks with him in the season. Yeah. It was a say he was like, there's a line that he has, but like I don't do genuine or like how he feels like and I feel that.

Sorry. That was Max Paul. It's Nathan. Actually, it's fun.

I'm to thank you for a number. Maybe. Oh, my goodness. No, no, no, no.

But yeah, he, he was one of the most relatable lines. I thought we're like, it's like he's being punished for not being able to fake sincerity as good as other people. Yeah. He thinks everyone's full of shit when they're paying his attention.

And some people are just really good in high social IQ and are able to do that. And it also touches on like aura, which is obviously like kind of the buzzword of the moment where it's like, oh, his aura is something. And I find certain people like you, you walking up to someone and maybe saying something a little bit like, oh, that was odd. It's more natural when you do it.

I do it. It's almost like a record scratch moment. I find if you're aware of it, you're more likely to walk into the record scratch. And if you have the confidence to not even think of the record scratch, you can just seamlessly work it into a conversation.

I get all that. I don't disagree. I think you think you're weirder than you are. I think you present really well and you're really quick and you're quite charming.

Oh, wow. You see, this one, Alex always says to me, and I really think she's delusional when she gets into that shit. No, because you're so, you're very quick-witted. You're a good listener.

You're a good question. But again, we're back to the question is what is the first line? I think that's the biggest problem in social life in general. It's like, I feel like, you know, people talk about like dating and online dating and like, how does anybody meet anybody these days?

If there was a better system for the opening line in real life, how many more people would find their partner? Because it's like, nobody knows how to do the first line. Well, that's why you don't like it. I know.

But I think so many people also hate dating apps, even though they're successful. And people would love to go, I saw somebody walking down the street or somebody in a coffee shop or somebody in the bar or something in the gym or whatever. And how do you introduce yourself in a way that's like not terrible? Anyway, we're getting away from the point, but it is so hard that opening first line is very, very hard.

And I will say I am quick and I can be charming amongst my friend group. I cannot do it with people I don't know very well. Yeah, but Nathan is such a hard one. What would be the opening line for somebody like me?

Because you get to be like, nice outfit. You know what I mean? Like, it's funny. And also, he probably doesn't respect his fans that much.

No, that's a big assumption. No, sorry. I mean, the right kind of fan. But anybody who's just like panting at the site of Nathan, he's probably like, you know, you just said Malcolm McDowell would like likes the attention.

But I don't know if he would like maybe would. In LA too, you probably think everyone wants something from you. You have that thing too when you're at a certain level of success or fame or notoriety. It's like, oh, this guy, he's a musician.

He doesn't want anything from me. He just wants the comedy guy. This guy wants me to be a guy who's desperate to get into his world. Like share my moment and say like, oh, he was as weird as he seems or something.

I think he's got his, you know, he kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. That is an interesting dynamic, you know, the idea of in those circles and actually the same thing appears and stuff like that. It's like, because people are looking for jobs that writers, directors, producers are all looking for their next gig.

Do you encounter that with music? Like young bands, people that want to work with our cows. There's a bit of that, but it's not quite the same. I think in Hollywood, it's like, yeah, there's producers.

There's like, can I get in the writers room? Can I send my script to somebody? It's like, because everybody's like need really need something for somebody and music. You kind of have to do it yourself to some degree.

Yeah. But there are times where I'm like, yeah, it's like, how do I get this producer to like this music producer to like take a seriously or something? Oh, I mean, you're the one that you're something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely.

As opposed to like say a producer wanting to work with you guys or like a band desperate to open or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's not a ton of that though.

No. Yeah, I don't know. Well, I think we set up a rehearsal. Okay.

Yeah. Well, I am doing an audition today. Today. You have to worry.

Why do they say it looks so good? Yeah, I'm used to nice haircut, which way we feel good confidence, but a quirky dad, I guess playing for a audition for TV show commercial. I don't know. It's the last minute thing someone came in from LA, the casting director called me and said, he's not loving the casting choices.

He needs somebody. I think you'd be good. The casting director said he likes it. He comes in, wants to meet in person.

And then I'm going to do some lines. Do you want to do some acting to exactly drug reference? Yeah. I'm sure that's a casting couch.

It sounds very, I don't think so. That'd be interesting. What would I do? Let's sort of reverse it.

I was telling before. You understand. Just go out. Okay, just to walk me through that.

So are you nervous? What would you do? All right. Do you have lines that you have to do on a practice on me right now?

My lines. And I don't know if this is part of the thing, but basically I come in with groceries and I go, kids, can I get some help? I'll say better in them. I'll say better in them.

And I walk by them and I go, I wouldn't want to disrupt my two little stars. And that is for the audition so far. But although that's only two small lines for me to feel super confident, I actually have to rehearse that a bunch. And I like night before lines being sent to me and I asked for them last night and they came to me an hour ago.

So I have a terrible short term memory. How do you rest the lines? There's only two of them. They should be too bad.

Well, even that line, I don't want to disrupt my two little stars. Is that it? Yeah. And the kids are sort of like in their social media, whatever electronics.

That can be said a million different ways. Are you the fun, sir? Cassie and I was like, oh, I want to disrupt my two little stars. Or is it like more fun?

You can say that changed the nature of the character, which I'm sure you're zeroing in. You're doing this in like an hour or two, right? Yes. I'm going to be stuttering the fuck out of it and being terrible.

Do you have any TV dads that you're getting in space for? Like Carl Winslow? I'm trying. Just being, no.

Always go to that. Love family matters. I'm trying. Just based on what I'm wearing.

I just love that if you do it as well. I'm also co-additioning as a crew member. So apparently, I guess this is a little meta and there's a thing where there's a person on set who trimes in with some singers. So I'm wearing...

Are you a dad on a TV show? I don't exactly know what's going on. I know that's different, but the line delivery is different in that sense, right? Yeah, I'm just going to try to...

I find the look you have is a big part of it. So the second I walk in, it'll be based on that. And the fact that I think this director knows that I started a TV show that could add something to it, I don't know, maybe not. But I'm going for Adam Brody in that...

Hey, yeah, the Jewish one. Whatever that is, his dress. It's kind of a modern update because I am a dad. This is what I wear as a dad.

I'm kind of combining the color shirt with a more hip thing. And this also helps me for my... When I'm the crew guy, because this is what a crew guy would wear. Oh, good.

You look great. We'll see. I'm a embarrassingly funny story that comes out of this. Because I will stutter and shit.

I'm just bad at my distance. Or the story that comes out of it as you get cast. That would be unbelievable. So wait, what was the line again?

Do I just write my two little stars? That's the second line. The first line is, kids could have some help here. Okay, Max, you're auditioning for this one with the dad.

Gotcha. Kids can have some help. You can't do groceries. And then they ignore you.

And then you follow up with, I don't want to disrupt my two little stars. Kids, can I get some help, please? Shit, that was good. That was really good.

Okay. That was the first one. But first one was very natural. I don't want to disrupt my two little stars.

That's you too. But that was good if you do CERNa. You're a good actor. And I find that people always say that when you don't care, you're better in the audition.

I'm getting sucked into caring too much. Yeah, you should be a tired-ass dad. You know what? I have this theory lately in TV shows that I watch.

If I think they're acting, I don't like it. I just don't like it. I want everything underplayed for a ghost part. Well, this is pretty, this is the magic of what makes an actor good or not.

Because if the artifice of their performance, if you're not thinking like that's the trick. People talk about technique and all these things, but really we've talked about it before. Either naturally, when you perform in front of the camera, you seem authentic or you don't. I don't know how much that can be learned.

But I think there is this contemporary style though. And there's always an anticipation because there's a thing with that show that Adam Brody, what's the Christian White Bell show. And I watched the first episode. I hated it because he was fine.

But there's so much overacting throughout it. And I just don't want to spend time in that world. It's just too much. I thought I thought, oh, Nosferatu.

I don't even know how to say that properly. I get nervous. Nosferatu. Anyway, it took me 45 minutes to stop thinking about them acting.

I got there. But for the first 45 minutes, I was just watching these people do old English acting. It was all very... You know, I was just like, oh, okay.

Even a dramatic show like White Lotus. And there are some ridiculous characters. If you go through the characters, most of them are not overdoing it. It's like the three girlfriends are totally under play.

A Parker Posey? Well, because I talked to you, you guys were ahead of me. I watched the pilot and I was like, what is Parker Posey doing? I can't, it's very distracting.

And then you mentioned that it's based on some like... It's based on this character from the show Southern Charm, which is reality show. See, Parker is working on Tricia's name. Like the dad, every other member of that family, my Schwarzenegger, they all underplayed it.

Greg, the serial killer... Oh, he's great. He's great. He underplayed it.

You go through each one and it's like, no one felt like they're acting to me. I just like, I like that way more. It was like way less hysterical. I don't know.

It's your big sappy brother fan. Yeah, love this young brother. Love this young brother. One of them's got a movie coming out.

Yeah, with that show man. Yeah, I set the trailer. That's right. What was the trailer I just sent?

It's a sappy. Oh, the rock. The rock's a movie. That's a Benny.

And then the other brothers coming out with one Michelle name. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure what the succession. Like, he's not Netflix right now.

No, the movie you're about to talk about. Sorry, I shouldn't know. I think End of May, right? It's not Netflix right now.

Hold on. It's not the billionaire. Yeah. It's check.

It's called Mountain Something. Oh, that's the only thing I want to do. So what's cool about this movie, it's a movie, I think, is that he wrote it, like, he shot it. Like, basically, I think he pitched them in like the fall.

It's some great turn on. Shot in March. It's like 60-day turn around or something. Yes, it's the fastest, like ever.

Are you looking it up to just, I can't remember what's going on. I'm so excited for this. It's not a... No, it's not a trailer.

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