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EPISODE · Jun 30, 2026 · 29 MIN

"You can't have more Milibands than women in top jobs" - Cain and Abel mark II

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There is considerable intrigue around Andy Burnham's possible cabinet, not least because the eldest Miliband brother is being linked to the position of Foreign Secretary. Are we about to see UK politic's Cain and Able story return for a second round? And most importantly, Is Andy Burnham ready?Burnham's debut speech caused headlines with his bold plans to reshape the British state. But there are difficult questions lurking behind the rhetoric, namely what does any of it actually mean? Plus, Reform UK gears up to choose their top candidates to challenge Burnham in his own backyard.Steven Swinford, political editor, The TimesLara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday TimesPatrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The TimesProducers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry KitsonExecutive producer: Molly GuinnessPicture: Getty ImagesAudio: ReutersEmail us: [email protected]:00 The Return of David Miliband?02:53 The Miliband Brothers Psychodrama04:23 Labour's "Boys Club" Optics Problem08:02 The Brutal Fight for Top Cabinet Jobs11:20 How Burnham is Manipulating Westminster13:56 Burnham vs Starmer: The Real Difference16:27 The Hidden Cost of Devolution (Tax Rises?)19:31 What is "Number 10 North" Really About?22:31 Why the Tories Fear Ed Miliband as Chancellor25:29 Nigel Farage's Secret Plot for the North27:35 The £5 Million Farage Crypto InvestigationThis podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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