EPISODE · Feb 24, 2026 · 51 MIN
You Don't Have to Meditate to Change Your Habits. Here's What Works Instead
from The Mindshift Podcast · host Dan Holcomb and Rhetta Rowland
What if the thing keeping you from change isn't your habit — but the story you've made up about what change has to look like?The Mindshift Podcast is a show about habit change, hosted by Dan Holcomb and Rhetta Rowland. Rooted in the neuroscience of Dr. Judson Brewer and the real-life experiences of a community already using the method, each episode blends science, mindfulness, and honest human stories to help you understand — and step out of — the loops keeping you stuck. In this episode, Dan and Rhetta sit down with Mindshift teammate Mary Beth Stern — certified addictions counselor, MBSR teacher, and person in long-term recovery — for an honest conversation about awareness, what it really takes to show up, and why the method works even if you think you're not a meditator.In this episode:Mary Beth shares her journey from painfully shy kid to Wall Street to certified addictions counselor — and the moment alcohol stopped workingHow second gear awareness showed up in her own life long before she had a name for it — and why recognizing the habit loop was the turning pointWhy you don't have to be a meditator to work the Mindshift method — "short moments, many times" is the whole practiceThe truth about Mindshift community calls: you can show up off-screen, muted, and just listen — no hot seat, no pressure, no performance requiredWhat Mary Beth hopes someone feels in their very first week: not a specific feeling, but a glimpse of hope that their internal capacity to change is already thereConnect with us:Sign up to join our live Zoom meetings 5 days a week at mindshiftrecovery.orgDownload the Mindshift Recovery App on our Website, the App Store, or Google PlayIf you’d like to be on the show or have questions for us or our guests - [email protected] For more info about Dr. Judson Brewer's neuroscience research, visit mindshiftrecovery.orgThe Mindshift Podcast is part of the Mindshift Recovery community—a space where anyone can shift their relationship with behaviors that no longer serve.Music for The Mindshift Podcast is created and produced by host Dan Holcomb.Artwork is created by Giraffes And RobotsThe content shared in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment.
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