You Either Win Or You Learn with Cheryl Strayed

Bestselling author Cheryl Strayed (Wild, Tiny Beautiful Things) has a new iHeart Women’s Sports podcast called Mind Over Mountain! Cheryl joins Sarah for a wide-ranging conversation about how high school track allowed her to express herself as a teenager, the mental and physical challenges of her now-famous hike on the Pacific Crest Trail, the ways she continues to be inspired by women doing hard things with their bodies, and the stories she hopes to tell on her new show. Plus, in honor of her advice-giving alter ego "Sugar," Cheryl shares some of the best and worst counsel she's ever offered, and talks about the power of horizontal advice.  Listen and subscribe to Cheryl Strayed’s new podcast, Mind Over Mountain, here You can now WATCH Sarah’s interviews! Subscribe to @iHeartWomensSports on YouTube and check out the Good Game playlist here Leave us a voicemail at 872-204-5070 or send us a note at [email protected]  Follow Sarah on social! Bluesky: @sarahspain.com Instagram: @Spain2323 Follow producer Alex Azzi! Bluesky: @byalexazzi.bsky.social Instagram: @AzziArtwork  Follow producer Bianca Hillier! Bluesky: @biancahillier.bsky.social See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.