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EPISODE · Feb 20, 2021 · 49 MIN

'You eventually come out and the next day the sun rises'

from Not by the Playbook · host BBC World Service

We hear from the first Wallabies player to come out as gay, Dan Palmer. Last year he wrote a powerful column in the Sydney Herald saying that his ‘own death felt preferable to anyone finding out that I was gay’. Since this he has had hundreds of people messaging from around the world to say they have encountered similar problems with their sexuality. A few months on he speaks to Caroline about his decision to come out, his battle with his own sexuality and being a gay sportsman. We also speak to the first woman to officiate at the Super Bowl. Sarah Thomas made history as a down judge when the Tampa Bay Bucaneers beat the Kansas City Chiefs and began her officiating career in 1996. Sarah will tell us what it is like to be a history maker, how it feels to be at the pinnacle of her career and how she is blazing a trail for many more women to come. Sportshour's Katie Smith tells us the story of two Ironman trailblazers. Alistair Brownlee is trying to become the first man to complete an Ironman in under seven hours and Lucy Charles-Barclay is trying to become the first woman to accomplish this feat in below eight hours. We find out more about why they are trying to take on this mammoth task. We are live at the Australian Open to see which female will win the Grand Slam. Plus, can Southampton get their first win in the Premier League since 4 of January? They take on Chelsea in the lunchtime kick off and we will be live at the match. (Photo: Dan Palmer poses during an Australian Wallabies portrait session at Crowne Plaza, Coogee on May 30, 2012 in Sydney, Australia. Credit: Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

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