EPISODE · Sep 11, 2025 · 36 MIN
"You must leave China immediately..."
In 2021, I interviewed ABC correspondent Bill Birtles about his then recently released book, 'The Truth About China'. Bill speaks about our ongoing relationship with the superpower, about state security police knocking on his door at midnight and of being interrogated in a shabby hotel room with discussions about beer.
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