You Recorded the Episode, But Missed the Actual Opportunity. | Marlen Kakkori episode artwork

EPISODE · Aug 27, 2026 · 20 MIN

You Recorded the Episode, But Missed the Actual Opportunity. | Marlen Kakkori

from The Human Connection Podcast

"The leverage is what happens afterwards." — Marlen KakkoriMarlen Kakkori has built her entire business around a topic most founders get wrong the moment they hit record: how to actually be a good podcast guest. She's the founder of the Podcast Conversion Lab, and her core insight is blunt — the interview itself isn't where the value is. The relationship you build with the host after it ends is.Karl and Marlen get into the number of shows it actually takes before podcast guesting starts converting (it's higher than you think), why "category of one" positioning beats every generic title on your LinkedIn bio, and why the guests who share their actual story — flaws included — are the ones people remember and refer.What you'll get from this episode:Why most of the value from a podcast appearance comes after the recording stops, not during itThe real number of shows it takes before guesting starts producing leads and referralsWhat "category of one" positioning is, and why "another strategist" or "another founder" gets forgotten instantlyThe book-backed idea that teaching is the fastest path to closing salesWhy sharing your actual, unpolished story builds more trust than any credential list#H2H #HumanConnectionPodcast #StartupLeadership #CompanyCulture #B2BRelationships===You can connect with Marlen Kakkori here:https://www.skool.com/the-podcast-conversion-lab-1632https://www.linkedin.com/in/marlenkakkoriYou can connect with Karl Pontau here:www.vouchedconnections.comwww.thehumanconnectionpodcast.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontauhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

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