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EPISODE · Jun 2, 2026 · 18 MIN

Your First Instinct Was Probably Right | The Scaling CEO Podcast

from The Scaling CEO · host Glenn Gow

In this episode, I sit down with Ed Kopko, CEO of Bold Business and former CEO of Butler International, to discuss what it really takes to scale a company through decades of growth and change. Ed shares why CEOs struggle to find time for strategic thinking, the costly leadership mistakes he would avoid if starting again, the importance of benchmarking against the best, and how AI is reshaping workforce solutions. We also explore organizational change, leadership instincts, global scaling, and what it means to build an AI-first company in today's rapidly evolving business environment.

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