Zack Eswine, 2016 CT Book of the Year winner - Episode 24 - on Pastoring and how "Large, Famous & Fast" were not Values of Jesus's

Noah Filipiak interviews 2016 Christianity Today Book of the Year (in the Category of The Church/Pastoral Leadership) award winner Dr. Zack Eswine.  In addition to the award-winning The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus, Zack is also the author of Spurgeon's Sorrows: Realistic Hope for those who Suffer from Depression, Preaching to a Post-Everything World: Crafting Biblical Sermons that Connect with our Culture, Recovering Eden: The Gospel According to Ecclesiastes and Kindled Fire: How the methods of CH Spurgeon can help your preaching.  Zack pastors at Riverside Church in Webster Groves, MO and is the Director of Homiletics at Covenant Seminary. Like the themes in Zack's writing, this interview is essential listening for pastors who struggle with burnout, significance and self-striving.  So much of what has become normative in church culture for pastors is the opposite of what Jesus taught and modeled for his followers.  Zack exposes these things with such grace, experience, and wisdom, offering the rest of us the hope from the hamster wheel of ministry he has found in Jesus. You can follow Zack on Twitter and Facebook.  His website and blog can be found at www.ZackEswine.com