I was just writing out the lyrics of Game of Pricks. I got it by voices. Bob Pollard has a very, smells like me. That's me.
You're all clean. You got- I should have been showered. You showered arm like raw. Raw onion impression.
Wait a minute, when did I get home? Saturday in like early, what early morning Sunday? Today is Monday. Handy.
Oh, getting in my spot. Justin, my tush. My mom on my microphone. I'm gonna get closer to me.
I'm gonna get a closer. I am trying. I've waited. He said this way too high.
That's too high. It's too high, right? I've waited too long. So long.
Um. I've waited too long to have you. I am the back of me. You're wincing.
It feels too loud. It's hurting my ears. Yeah. And it's making me want to listen to the guided by voices version, no offense.
I'm just saying them like, oh yeah, I haven't heard that in so long. Hmm. Okay, down goes the guitar. No, no, no, no.
Keep playing. Keep playing. No, because I'm gonna have to find out where my range is. Yeah.
In comparison to Robert Pollard's range, which is considerably, I think my range is considerably lower. Yeah. I guess I hadn't realized how much lower it would be until you just started in on that right now. It wasn't pleasant.
Welcome to my questions. Was Wubo, Olligobo, the podcast episode. Welcome to one question. Like I said, it was a little jarring.
It was a loud, but I like that song. And you, Lou Barlow, had a pretty busy weekend in Philadelphia and New York City. As a member of Dinosaur Junior. As a member of Dinosaur Junior.
As a bass player for Dinosaur Junior. Correct. Playing with guided by voices. I was not at those shows, but they sounded real fun, real successful.
They were fun. Yeah, nice. I feel a little unprepared for today's podcast because I just feel like the day kind of caught up with me. I don't know.
We've been really busy and the weekend was really busy. Like you were gone and I had like a play date. Is he had a play date? Is he had a play date night?
I had a play date. You had a play date. I got to sit there. Yeah.
Oh, is he was playing. Yeah. And it was fun because I got to hang out with like kind of a new mom friend. And so I enjoyed that.
And is he had a wonderful time and then you did your show Saturday and then you came home right after. So did we drove through the night? And then Sunday when we got up, we let you sleep in. That was cool.
Yeah. And really, really needed to get a baby alive and that needed to happen. And so we had to go to Target and get a baby alive and go to Trader Joe's and do all this stuff. Don't in Hadley, Hadley, Massachusetts.
I was thinking today, speaking of baby alive, baby alive was a, I should be playing with baby alive. Oh my God. What is it? Baby alive, soft and sweet.
She can drink. She can eat new baby alive. I love that. It was the commercial from the 70s.
Thank you. Yeah. God damn. That was good.
And then I got froled to the Bali too. Bro, dum-dah-y, soft, pretty dah-dah-y. I don't remember the, I should, I should just pause it right now and I should be launching into real, you know, I could really figure it out. But Rug-a-dah-dah-dah-y, had the sort of Rug-a-dah-dah-y mock two in the 70s, came with a tugboat shower and it went to the tug.
You put her in a little tug boat in your bathtub. Oh. Rug-a-dah-dah-y, tugboat shower. You were 12-4 hours?
Cute. have to look up those old commercials to show them to Izzy later. Oh, you know, I could actually, I should rerecord those. Oh, that would be fun.
That's what I should do. I should do that. Yeah. Listen to them, get them down and then do them real quick on the, on the four track.
It's new baby alive. Battery's not included. New baby alive. Soft and sweet.
She can drink. She can meet. New baby alive. Beautiful face.
Dress camping and pretty lace. New baby alive. Beautiful face. New baby alive.
You need her now. Get your own batteries. Oh my gosh. Well, you know, Izzy would love to contribute to those ads.
She's, she's like, she wants to do a commercial for, oh my gosh. She's got her own ideas. She came up with her own idea for baby alive. It was called grandma alive.
And I was like, dear God child, that is the best idea ever. It's like, she's like, and then you know, you have to feed them and change their diapers. And I'm like, exactly, you do. Not all grandparents, but.
It could be grandpa barely alive. Aw. It's awful. It's terrible what you do.
I've changed adult diapers before. Not on myself. Although yes, I'd be happy to change my own adult diaper when the time comes. Absolutely.
I wear the period version, basically, an underwear. I wear like period underwear. They're like underwear that you wear when you bleed. And you're wearing them.
I'm wearing them right now. Yeah. True. I think the first mall was actually in Minneapolis.
The first, they were designed after European outdoors. I guess it would be where was the first indoor mall. They created the mall concept came from Europe. And when they brought it to the United States to make these indoor malls, one of the first things they did was eliminate most of the seating, because they didn't want people sitting down.
And in a very American fashion, they did not want people sitting down. They wanted them shopping. Oh, oh, oh, so it's like, don't get too comfortable. Don't get too comfortable.
Keep going to the stores, right? We want people to many places to sit down because then they won't be shopping enough. Mm. Whereas, of course, the European model, which is the outdoor, you know, people can sit anywhere.
Okay, wait. I mean, oh, yes. The first indoor mall in the world was Southdale Shopping Center located in Edina, Minnesota. It was the first totally enclosed shopping center in the nation.
So that's how you pronounce Edina? Edina. That's the real pronunciation, obviously, because you're from there. Yeah.
So what would you say? Edina. Oh, god. Don't make me laugh, sir.
I, that's who called lemons to Leo minster. Me. You. Because it looked like a Massachusetts has a very particular unexpected pronunciation.
I say pretty much everything here wrong. I'm like, oh, that's, um, yeah, what did it go? It was like, lemons, sir. Leo minster.
Leo minster. Yeah. Edina's kind of fancy. I don't know if it still is, but when I was living in Minneapolis and living in Powderhorn Park, um, I would go to the anthropology that was in Edina.
You know, it was kind of like where you would go. Like, oh, I'm going to go to Edina to go to the anthropology there. And I just, I remember I would buy like a belt because that was all I could afford. I was like, I'm going to get this belt.
I would. And I had a belt from anthropology in Edina for a very long time. I do have mall love in my heart and, um, I think if I was to, I was one of my belts for you. I do.
I see belts. I'm like, I know you'll, you'll like text me pictures of belts from thrift stores, from regular stores, just whenever you're on tour, I'll get like a random text and it's a belt. And I'm like, okay, yes, you can give me a belt. What you really want are what women really, I don't even know.
I can't even say this. I'm about to say something. It's probably offensive. Women like jewelry.
That's offensive. It is offensive. But it took me for, I mean, that's it. What do you.
People like jewelry. People. I would say it's a stereotype to say women like jewelry, you know, cause there's all these commercials. You said that because it was literally, you were, you know, that's the patriarchy.
It's in your blood. They came to you as a child and they sent you all of those commercials and every Valentine's day, they're like, get her what she really wants. Now, actually I'll, I'll tell you it's been a recent, that's actually a recent realization of mine, a recent lesson that I've learned. That's what jewelry is kind of the go to gift for me anyway.
For you. I like jewelry as there's plenty of other people who love to adorn themselves with jewelry. I always, you know, I have a fantasy of you wearing like a, like a gold chain around your neck, like a thin gold chain that just sort of lays there against you. And it's like, it's like a secret.
It's like underneath your sweater, but it turns me on. I don't know. I like it. Nobody can see it.
I don't want anybody to see it. I don't know. I like the hint of it. Like if you're wearing one of your white t-shirts and you can kind of see like the hint of it, like underneath there, the outline of it.
I'll do it. I'll do it for you. I find that sexy on you. I'm not speaking for other men.
I'm just talking about you. You know, that, that comes from what I think that comes from, or maybe it doesn't come from this, but you know, when the sopranos happened, so many women professed their attraction to James Gandolfini. Yeah. Who has a, they've named a rest up after him on the Garden State Parkway.
Oh, good. The James. Or the New Jersey Car. He probably deserves more than a rest up, but you know, that's a good start.
I mean, no, that's from, I don't know him personally, but from what I heard, he was a wonderful person. That was a show where I did seed men wearing jewelry. And yeah, I found it attractive. I did.
I did. And then it also kind of reminds me of like Alpuccino and Scarface too. You know, and he really wore jewelry and You want me to kind of adopt? I don't know.
What do you think? What do you want me to do? I'm attracted to like, imagine if it's like put Grizzly Adams as like a member of the sopranos. Yeah.
Grizzly Adams is sort of like their undercover member of the sopranos family who works for them. And maybe like gets away with things because he doesn't look like he's not Italian. He's not typical, like part of the family. But yeah, he works with the crew.
Yeah, it's like you're my Grizzly Adams. Outlaw. Grizzly Adams. He wasn't outlaw.
That's why he was in the man. That's why he was in the man. Well, he did commit the crime that was a crime that he didn't commit. Right.
Grizzly Adams is based off of a real person. I know. Yeah. And I found it.
He was like my first crush. Grizzly Adams was like straight up my first crush. And there was like a little gold chain. Grizzly Adams would be hot.
That'd be really cool. Bill Mealeen to go chain on big belts around your waist. See belts belts gold chains. You look good with a belt too.
Although I don't send you pictures of belts and go like, would you like this? Because you are really picky about your belts. You're kind of like a real belt ditch. You really like you.
I like a thick belt. You do like a thick belt. And your belt thing, your belt kink I would say comes from the 1970s. It sure does.
It comes. There's a very specific belt. There's a very specific belt look in your life that imprinted on you as a young person. It did.
You've been sort of like kind of trying to live into that look ever since. No, you've actually really helped me. I wouldn't say move beyond my belt kink. You should never move beyond your belt kink.
That's okay. You can have it. Listen, what we know now in this world because of the internet, everybody's got a kink. And there's videos for all y'all.
Oh, yes. That's where I purchased my first seven inch records. Oh, which ones? My parents allowed we could buy one seven inch a week, I think, for 99 cents.
Wow. How fun. Like it's a kid. I mean yeah, because I was listening to- And good job, John and Luis Barlow because that's a really nice thing to do for a little kid.
And then it gives him like something to look forward to. It's not that expensive. I had like a little plastic little player in my room, and I bought Blackwater by the Dubi brothers, Tangled up in Blue by Bob Dylan. Wow, nice.
Philadelphia Freedom by Elton John, 1976. That was kind of a, you know, 1976 Philadelphia. My grandparents lived there. I got to see the Liberty Bell in 1976.
Wow. Bring in the Christmas, bring in the baby, and the Christmas, bring in the baby, and the Christmas, bring in the baby, and the Christmas, bring in the baby, and the Christmas, bring in the baby, and the Christmas. Baby Alive is still in the van right now. Oh, Alan is in the van?
Baby Alive had to accompany us to school today for drop-off. Is he named her baby alive Alan? Allie Barlow. Was that right?
Is that everything I thought there was one more? Yeah, and she kept saying, doesn't she look like an Alan? To be honest, I'm thinking of a balding man in 1977. Alan?
Really? I was like, damn, she's really reclaiming Alan and taking it and she's spinning it right around and she's like, check out this cute little chick named Alan. And I'm like, cool. Good for you, Azee.
She's just like, I think her name is going to be Alan. I feel like this album, oh my god. It is like an album. This is like a Sabino album.
It's all over the place. It's a mess. It's a fucking mess. There's two different people singing and some weird topics and things starting and stopping.
And I'm going to call this episode Zig-Zag. It's just we're zigging and zagging. We touched upon the line is not straight. Let's just, you know, for the sake of it.
So we should like, it's like the summary. Like when you're sort of like, let's summarize. Let's summarize today's episode. We discussed the original mall, the original American mall, which is located in the United Minnesota.
In the United Minnesota. In the United Minnesota. Yeah. In Minnesota.
The reason that we were speaking of that is I was talking about Myers-Thrithy Acres, which was a chain store in Michigan in the 1970s. And it is probably still there. I think it is actually still around Michigan. Row trip.
We got to get to Myers-Thrithy Acres. We're going to hit up the South Teal Shopping Center and we're going to go to- What are you guys doing this this summer? Well, I'm going to play a string of solo shows and we're going to visit the malls of our youth. Mm-hmm.
Actually sounds fun. I mean, the Westwood mall in Jackson, Michigan. Uh-huh. I don't know if Signal Hills mall is still there in West St.
Paul. It certainly isn't there in the form that you remember. We're going to go to the Packa Plaza in Jackson, Michigan. Okay.
I like that. Packa Plaza. I mean, and spoken in a real Michigan accent. What's a packa?
Packa Plaza. Car. Get in the car and go to the Packa Plaza. Yup.
Oh, we were talking about how much? You stink. I really stink. You get dressed up for these occasions, these conversations that we have in this very small room.
The sacred recording. You do. You get ready. I know.
I actually- I've even got a cashmere sweater on. I do too, but I've been wearing it. I've been sleeping. I've been sleeping wearing it for probably two, almost two weeks straight.
Oh my God. I can literally smell you right now. You know what it is? I made beef stew last night, which was delicious if I do say so myself.
It was really good. Dear listeners, if you don't know, one of my hobbies- One of your many talents. Aww. That's true.
Thank you. I really enjoy cooking. I would say that's for me, what kind of my hobby? Some people read books.
I enjoy cooking a lot. And recipes and making it my own, whatever. Anyway, so last night I made beef stew with sweet potatoes and carrots. Yeah, sweet potatoes are like the only potato.
It's the only potato you really prefer. Me being, again, from the Mighty Midwest, I can do all potato. But Lou, his little tummy can only handle the sweet potato. And so I- because I love him and I know him, I cater to him and I made him beef stew.
I was sweet potatoes and it was fucking delicious. And you know what, if you haven't made beef stew with sweet potato, do it. I don't want you to just care- I don't want you to just care- I don't want you to just care- And just care- And just replace all- make all potato- things sweet potatoes. Well, not everyone likes sweet potatoes.
You know, I consider myself an empathetic person. I can understand people having different opinions than my own. I consider myself open-minded in that way. And I'll congratulate myself for that.
However, I don't see how it's even possible that not everyone in the world would prefer a sweet potato. You- To a regular roll, just absolutely no taste, starch, blitz. For you, no value to the other- No value. White potato, no thank you.
White potato, just empty, empty. Mm-hmm. Starch that makes you like have a sugar crash, right? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. You made a great beef stew last night. Yeah. And- Thank you, dear.
Well, as a result of the beef stew, well, I mean, again- Have you ever heard like when someone- When they talk about, you know, when you're a kid and you go to visit other- You know, you go to your friend's house. Maybe it smells. And then they have different- And then your house- Yeah, I remember- And you're like, what is the smell? Oh, that's- That's Stephanie's house.
Yeah, Stephanie's house. Stephanie's house has a- That's interesting. I went to Brian's house. Mm-hmm.
And someone described that sort of unique smell that a family house can have, you know, a strange- Exactly. I'm not a single- Exactly. The family home has a smell. But I've heard it referred to as stew-with.
Yeah. It's- Yeah, our house probably has a- Mighty with. Mighty with. Yes.
Well, I do notice it when I'm out of town and then I walk back in the door after being gone and I'm like, oh, okay. So this is where people smell- Geez, when they come into my house and I immediately start lighting candles. The bar low stew-with. Ugh.
Sorry world. For all of you inquiring minds, Lou, did you have a nice reunion with- I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Yes, I did have a really nice reunion with Bob Pollard and he seemed to really enjoy Dinosaur Junior and he was very complimentary.
Nice. Of my bass playing. And it was a great bill. Like, I- we should play together all the time.
Because I never got to see them in high school. Mm-hmm. And I'll get to see them play Game of- Game of pricks. I wanted to say Game of Thrones, but Game of pricks.
Mm-hmm. That's a really fun song title too. I like that song title. Oh.
I'm there for it. Um, see them play that and then obviously see you of course. And that would be fun. Yeah, I'm into this double bill.
It worked out really well. Uh-huh. I think it kind of put people in the good mood. That's nice.
Because there was a lot of people who, of course, loved out of my voices and were singing a long time and chanting. Gee, bee, bee, chanting. Oh, nice. Alright.
Let's wrap it up. Oh, okay. And I feel like this was just- this was kind of a raw, raw kind of episode. Raw and Prush episode.
And it's sm- you know what folks? It smells raw here. That's me. Thanks, Lou.
Yeah, that's me. I don't know. I'll bottle that and I'll put it on the Barlow Family General Store. And it'll be free.
I'll ship it to you for free. Worldwide shipping for free. I'll send it as a gift. Oh, I know.
Give me all your thoughts, your words, your smells. Don't do that. Give me all your raw impressions, your thoughts, your words, your smells. Ooh, what's that smell?
It's your husband. Thank you.