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Zillow's CEO on growth during a housing crisis

An episode of the Decoder with Nilay Patel podcast, hosted by The Verge, titled "Zillow's CEO on growth during a housing crisis" was published on March 2, 2026 and runs 65 minutes.

March 2, 2026 ·65m · Decoder with Nilay Patel

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Today, I’m talking with Zillow CEO Jeremy Wacksman. Zillow is one of those apps that really exemplifies what you might call the smartphone era of software: the company built a great mobile app for looking at real estate listings, and it turned into not just entertainment for so many of us, but what has become a vertically-integrated platform for buying, selling, and renting real estate.

Jeremy’s argument is that the future of Zillow looks a lot like an end-to-end business platform for real estate agents, and we spent a lot of time talking about whether a bu...

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