Zoe Stephens Takes Tourists Into North Korea & Afghanistan. This Is Her Perspective | Episode 66

Send us Fan MailIn Episode 66, Adventure Tour Guide Zoe Stephens returns to the Cameron Brown Show for a second conversation that goes even deeper than the first. Zoe has spent years taking people into some of the world's most controversial and off-limits countries including North Korea, Afghanistan and Syria. In this episode she shares her unfiltered perspective on what it is actually like on the ground, why the people you are taught to fear are often the most welcoming, and what ethical tourism really means when the politics are this complicated.We cover:Why North Korea tourism has gone quiet The rising middle class in Pyongyang and the smartphone culture taking overAfghanistan as a travel destination and where the line gets drawn on safetyBeing in Syria when Beirut got bombed and missiles flew over PalmyraTaiwan's apathy toward the China threat and why boba is their biggest cultural exportResponding to critics who question the ethics of visiting these countriesWhy a country is never the sum of its politicsFollow Zoe: @zoediscovers"Choose your chaos." — Zoe StephensSupport the show