2 Pastors and a Mic

This episode is different. After five years of never missing a week, we suddenly disappeared for two weeks…Two weeks ago, we lost one of our best friends — Chris Crawford — unexpectedly at just 46 years old. In this episode, we sit down not with polished answers or a sermon outline, but simply as two grieving friends trying to process heartbreak in real time.We talk honestly about:What grief actually feels likeHow loss comes in wavesThe emotional weight of showing up when you don’t want toWhy presence matters more than wordsThe tension of holding hope and heartbreak at the same timeSome of the unhelpful things people say to grieving people (even with good intentions)Why we felt it was important not to just “move on” too quicklyThis is a conversation about friendship, loss, pain, love, and learning how to sit with grief instead of trying to fix it.If you’re grieving right now…If someone you love is grieving…Or if you simply need permission to not be okay for a while…we hope this episode reminds you that you’re not alone.More than anything, this conversation reminded us: Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is simply show up.00:00 - We’re Back After Tragedy00:36 - Missing Our First Podcast Weeks in 5 Years01:07 - Losing One of Our Best Friends03:03 - How Grief Comes in Waves04:36 - The Closest Loss We’ve Ever Experienced05:19 - The Shock of Losing Chris at 4607:11 - Writing Through Grief & Journaling08:26 - Why Christians Struggle With Grief08:58 - Preaching While Grieving10:24 - Holding Hope and Heartbreak Together11:54 - Grieving Without Easy Answers13:14 - The Tension of Comforting People15:13 - Presence Matters More Than Words15:45 - A Message That Encouraged Us18:33 - Grief, Vulnerability & Being Real20:15 - Show Up for Someone This Week20:50 - Never Underestimate Presence21:43 - What’s Next for the Podcast22:08 - Final Thoughts & Encouragement