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3 Doves Podcast
by Jason Pawloski
3 Doves Podcast is a weekly space for honest faith, thoughtful reflection, and real-life conversations rooted in Scripture. Each episode features genuine people sharing real stories of how God met them, carried them, and transformed their lives. We explore what it means to walk with God in the middle of everyday life—our work, relationships, struggles, doubts, growth, and calling. These are conversations about faith lived out, not cleaned up. About grace in the process, not perfection on display.
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Ep 16 - It’s Okay to Not Be Okay - Krista Klossner - Part 1
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the 3 Doves Podcast, Jason Pawloski sits down with his sister-in-law Krista Klausner to share a deeply personal and powerful story of faith, family, and surrender. From moving to Fort Myers and encountering Jesus for the first time, to navigating marriage, raising six children—including four teenagers—and walking through seasons of loss, Krista opens up about the real and raw moments that shaped her life.She shares the impact of her parents’ divorce, her struggle with perfectionism, postpartum challenges, and how she unknowingly placed her identity and security in her husband Brian instead of Christ. Through the pain of two pregnancy losses, a complicated pregnancy, and the pressures of everyday life, Krista reveals how God began shifting her heart toward true dependence on Him.This episode also begins to uncover the early signs of Brian’s battle with depression and anxiety, setting the stage for a deeper conversation ahead. Through it all, Krista’s story carries a powerful message—it's okay to not be okay, and God meets you right where you are.If you're walking through a difficult season, wrestling with faith, or searching for hope in the middle of uncertainty, this conversation will remind you that you’re not alone—and that God is still working, even when it doesn’t make sense.Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Chill of Cape Coral FloridaCold Plunge. Cryolounge. Hydromassage. Float Pod. Red Light Therapy. InBody 580 Scan Take the plungDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 15 - Take Refuge - Dolphin Trainer Erin Morrison - Living the uncomfortable life.
Send us Fan MailOn this episode of the 3 Doves Podcast, Erin Morrison shares how growing up in Oak Park, Illinois with a strong church background led to early questions about faith that eventually became her own. She talks about choosing curiosity over rebellion, learning to trust God in uncomfortable places, and how seasons of risk, travel, and surrender shaped her calling. From Africa to college life out of her car, to living on a sailboat in the Florida Keys, Erin shares how God is her Refuge and that He redirected her from a dream of dolphin training into ministry, missions, and a deeper life of dependence on Him. Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Chill of Cape Coral FloridaCold Plunge. Cryolounge. Hydromassage. Float Pod. Red Light Therapy. InBody 580 Scan Take the plungDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 14 - A Simple Yes! Matt Crosson Shares the Stories
Send us Fan MailIn this Three Doves podcast episode, Matt Crosson shares his upbringing in Jacksonville, Florida, his early commitment to church, and a decisive moment at a Teen Mania conference that led him to follow Jesus and be rebaptized. He describes formative mentors who taught him prayer, silence before God, and worship, along with his growing love for music and his unexpected start as a youth pastor at 19. Matt recounts seasons of rejection while pursuing church ministry jobs, then finding renewed purpose through a decade with Ends of the Earth Cycling supporting global youth workers. He explains how that experience helped launch “Share the Stories,” where his family films and interviews ministries internationally to help them share their work, including trips to Ecuador, Peru, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, and Ghana, where they witnessed extreme poverty and disability-focused ministry. The key here is saying YES to God. Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Chill of Cape Coral FloridaCold Plunge. Cryolounge. Hydromassage. Float Pod. Red Light Therapy. InBody 580 Scan Take the plungDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 13 - Quit, Trust, Go: Cody Grube's Story of Streetlights ministry.
Send us Fan MailCody & Britney Grube are the founders of Streetlights Ministries, a powerful outreach dedicated to sharing the light of Christ on the streets with those who need it most. Inspired by Isaiah 35:5-9 and grounded in the call to love God and love your neighbor, Cody brings hope, healing, and the transformative message of the Gospel to the streets and beaches.In 2021, the Lord called them to sell their house, buy an RV and go. Along with their children, Cohen, Kensyn and Collins, they've been called to shine God’s light in every interaction they have, spreading His love, sharing truth, and making disciples wherever God leads them to go. https://streetlightsministries.org/Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Chill of Cape Coral FloridaCold Plunge. Cryolounge. Hydromassage. Float Pod. Red Light Therapy. InBody 580 Scan Take the plungDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 12 - Who’s Gonna Roll the Stone Away? — Easter 2026 Special
Send us Fan MailYou will want to hear our host Jason Pawlowski as he shares the Easter resurrection story from Mark 16:1–8, focusing on the women who go to Jesus’ tomb wondering who will roll away the large stone, only to find it already moved and hear that Jesus has risen. He highlights how they walked in faith despite an obstacle they couldn’t overcome, and connects the stone to the pressures, fear, regret, uncertainty, and hesitation people face today. Jason emphasizes that God goes ahead and moves what people cannot, pointing to the angel’s instruction to tell the disciples “and Peter” as a picture of grace for those who feel disqualified by failure. Though the women and disciples initially react with fear, the resurrection changes everything, calling all listeners to keep moving in faith because God is still moving stones. Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 11 - Trauma to Truth: Jesus Martínez - Cheek Turners
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the 3 Doves Podcast, Jesus Martinez shares how he was born in Venezuela, grew up poor in Southwest Florida, and fell into drugs, violence, and gang involvement after childhood sexual abuse and trauma at home. Searching for peace through art, the library, philosophy, yoga, and Buddhism, he later had a vision at 20 that led him to pursue Jesus, examine the historical reliability of the Bible, and wrestle with division in the modern church versus true discipleship. Jesus describes an immediate transformation—leaving drugs, pursuing holiness, and calling his family to faith—eventually witnessing widespread conversion in his family and even leading his abuser to Christ, while acknowledging ongoing healing. He emphasizes that God’s call is not “mission” but daily obedience, practiced through listening, Sabbath, and surrender.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 10 - Purpose at the Intersection - How Prayer, God's protection and Healing reached others.
Send us Fan MailIn this part two conversation on the 3 Doves Podcast, Jason interviews Wayne Schwartz about how God “lined up” events surrounding Rachel’s wedding and the serious car accident afterward. Wayne describes feeling a shock wave during the crash and believes God healed and protected him—leaving him without even a bruise—so he could stay near Rachel, mobilize prayer, and support his family. He shares how thousands of people and churches prayed, how he intentionally forgave the driver to avoid hindering prayer, and how family members and hospital staff experienced encouragement and healing through prayer and confession (James 5:16). Wayne also recounts earlier trials with infertility, Rachel’s high-risk pregnancy, and personal struggles, emphasizing faith over fear, staying “in the day,” and urging men to lead spiritually through prayer, Scripture, and consistent living. Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 9 - Death to Home: Living the Abundant Life - Wayne, Michelle, Rachel & Emma
Send us Fan MailHost Jason Pawloski interviews Wayne and Michelle Schwartz and their daughters, Emma and Rachel, about an Oct. 13 car crash in rural Michigan after a nephew’s wedding. Their rental car entered a blinking-light intersection, was struck on the passenger side by a heavier vehicle, slammed into a wooden telephone pole, and ended in a ditch; a nearby officer’s quick response and even an ER doctor monitoring police radio are described as crucial. Rachel, seated behind Wayne, says she saw the oncoming car, pulled Emma away from the door, and absorbed the impact, suffering severe head trauma; Emma later had a displaced femur fracture and memory gaps. Rachel was flown as a trauma alert to South Bend while Emma and Michelle went to a local ER and later Grand Rapids, with dead phones and the family separated until Emma was transferred back near Rachel. Wayne recounts Rachel nearly being lost multiple times, a Tuesday CT scan showing worsening swelling, and a “hail Mary” surgery where doctors later reported unexpected improvement, as prayer “warriors” mobilized and Wayne forgave the driver to avoid hindering prayer. Rachel reports dying up to six times, meeting Jesus in heaven, seeing angels, trees, clouds, a skyscraper-like place for learning about family on earth, and her healed healthy looking grandparents, and asking Jesus to help her family forgive the people who caused it. Sixteen months later, Rachel describes major recovery, regained memories (including her wedding), and ongoing healing, while the family emphasizes God’s timing, provision, and faith through trauma. Matthew 6:34https://3dovespodcast.comhttps://belovedgallery.org/exhibition/Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 8 - Nothing is Wasted - Jimmy Akers - Addictions, Identity and Love
Send us Fan MailJimmy Akers blends his experience of 19+ years of serving people at their most critical intersections in life and providing support to help improve their mental health, as a clean, funny, speaker and storyteller. Jimmy has spoken 1,000+ times around the world, and shares his struggles with anxiety, depression, loss and a suicide attempt. He speaks directly from a transparent heart in hope of others hearing Jesus voice in the midst of his transforming power. Whether he’s behind the pulpit as the Care Pastor at First Christian Church of Fort Myers, or reaching thousands through his YouTube series and his work with Mental Health Refill, our guest today is on a mission to provide hope-filled, family-focused encouragement—and he’s not afraid to be 'funny sometimes' along the way.He is an author, a speaker, and a storyteller who specializes in those pivotal 'intersections'—the moments where a necessary ending makes room for a brand-new beginning. Today, we’re diving into his journey of moving from casual to committed, the power of surrendering your story, and how to navigate the deep waters of faith and mental health.Follow Him on Instagram: Jimmy AkersSupport the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 7 - From Corporate to Called – Francisco shares his rich heritage of family, faith, and favor.
Send us Fan MailFrom Corporate to CalledIn this compelling episode, Francisco Miyares Jr. opens up about his journey from the structure and success of the corporate world to answering a deeper calling on his life. Rooted in a rich heritage of family, faith, and favor, he shares how legacy shaped his values, how faith anchored his decisions, and how God’s hand guided every transition.This is a story about identity, obedience, and stepping into purpose with courage. Leaving a very high paying job to gaining a highly blessed life. If you’ve ever felt the tension between career and calling, this conversation will challenge you to listen closely to what God may be stirring in your own life. Francisco Miyares Jr. is a missionary who stepped away from a 15-year corporate career to follow God's call into full-time ministry. Francisco serves as the Ends Kayaking Director for Ends Adventures. Francisco is a self proclaimed “board game nerd” and is on a quest to create a board game that combines all of his favorite things: God’s Word, outdoor adventure, and family fun! He is married to Andrea, and their son Gabriel serves alongside them sharing his abundant joy for Jesus Christ with anyone willing to listen! Francisco’s life verse is Proverbs 3:5-6. How you can take a step of faith and support Francisco.https://newinternational.org/give/campaign/francisco-andrea-miyaresEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 6 - Addiction to Adventure - A Hike into the Presence of God
Send us Fan MailLexi Loofboro loves anything that brings together faith, health, and people. She is married to her husband, Ian Loofboro, and together they serve the world through coaching, and their stand is to be love, hope and transformation. As a Hiking Director, Lexi takes those same passions and leads others to step away from the everyday and into adventures with God! Her story will set many free from the power of addiction to a posture of God's presence and voice in many lives. Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. Ends of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 5 - A Band of Brothers - The Power of Transformative Love
Send us Fan MailOn a special Valentine’s Day episode of the 3 Doves podcast, host Jason Pawlowski interviews three young men—Andrew, Caleb, and JJ—who share testimonies about God’s love, faith, and transformation. Andrew describes growing up in an abusive home, being airlifted to Johns Hopkins Hospital in Tampa, living with his grandmother who blended Judeo-Christian practice with Christian church life, and later facing abandonment, foster-system instability, and suicidal thoughts while at DCF offices. He says a YouVersion Bible app notification reminded him God saw him, God Loves him, and he later committed his life to Jesus during sixth grade as he prepared to testify in court for the termination of his parents’ rights, supported by Christians praying over him; he cites Galatians 2:20 and shares he is now pursuing ministry. Caleb shares that although raised in a Christian household, he sought acceptance in middle school, fell into partying and unhealthy situations in eighth grade, and was convicted when someone asked him about Jesus while he wasn’t living like a Christian. At a church camp themed “Build Your Church,” he prayed for God to change his heart, felt peace and love, sought guidance from leaders, and later connected deeply with the song “Gratitude,” describing a growing faith and involvement in worship music, including self-teaching instruments and receiving drum lessons supported by the church; he emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with Spirit-led community. JJ shares growing up without an active Christian home despite Catholic traditions, experiencing parental conflict and divorce, and entering a toxic long-term relationship he mistook for love; after the breakup and further family fracture he contemplated suicide. He says meeting Caleb in school led him to Crosspoint youth group, where he found community, began sharing the gospel with his family, and at camp realized he needed Jesus and decided to be baptized; he later baptized his mother and aunt and describes renewed family unity and improved relationships between his parents. The episode closes with Job 33:28 and a gospel invitation, including a prayer to receive Jesus by believing in His death and resurrection, plus contact information ([email protected] and social media) for listeners to share testimonies.Horseman's LandscapeWe are so thankful for Chris Horsemans and his continued support of our podcast. First Response Water & Mold Removal, INCJoshua Phelps is a lifelong resident of Lee County. After graduating from college, he spent a decadEnds of Earth Adventures MinistryWe exist to promote and resource youth ministries in the nations by outdoor adventures. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 4 - A Warriors Stance - Being in REAL Relationship.
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Three Doves Podcast, host Jason Pawlowski welcomes back guest Justin Hanneken, Executive Director of Ends of Earth Adventures and Associate Pastor. They delve into Justin's transformative journey, from starting cycling tours to embarking on a Christ-centered fishing ministry. The discussion highlights pivotal moments, such as the impact of COVID-19, and how his local church community influenced his relationship with his son. They also explore the concept of biblical manhood, using the REAL acronym (Reject Passivity, Expect God's Greater Reward, Accept Responsibility, Lead Courageously). Justin shares various inspirational stories, including the launch of high school programs like Florida Knights and transformative moments with fathers and sons. The episode underscores the importance of being present, maintaining integrity, and pursuing a full-send life for God. Ultimately, it's a powerful narrative about faith, family, and the dynamic ways God uses ordinary interests to achieve extraordinary impacts.Want more information about God's Movement in Justin's Ministry?ENDSADVENTURES.COMSupport the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 3 - A Warriors Ride to Salvation and Beyond
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, host Jason Pawloski sits down with Justin Hanneken, Executive Director of Ends of the Earth Adventures and associate pastor, for the first part of a powerful two-part conversation. Justin shares his remarkable journey from being a troubled high school senior—stealing car stereos and rejecting God—to experiencing a life-altering encounter with Jesus in 1999 through a friend’s persistence and a simple game of basketball. That moment marked the beginning of a radical transformation that would reshape the direction of his life.Justin also opens up about the impact of reconciliation with his father, who came to faith the same year. He reflects on a defining moment when his dad prayed over him and spoke 1 John 2 into his life—an act that became a turning point and helped solidify his calling and future ministry. From there, the conversation traces the unexpected birth of a cycling ministry, beginning with a challenge to ride a bike 300 miles to Key West despite weighing 268 pounds and openly disliking cycling. That single act of obedience sparked a movement that has since cycled in all 50 states and raised over $1.7 million to support and mobilize youth around the world.Throughout the episode, Justin shares what it looks like to live missionally in everyday life—from initially refusing to go on a mission trip to Mexico to experiencing God’s persistent calling through unexpected moments, even in a laundry room. This episode highlights a central truth: God can use our passions, hobbies, and willingness to say yes—whether through cycling, surfing, or hiking—to carry the Gospel to the ends of the earth. Be sure to tune in next week for Part 2, where the conversation continues with a deeper focus on biblical manhood and fatherhood.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 2 - Finding identity and purpose in God by learning to "be still" amidst crisis and betrayal.
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, we sit down with Josh Phelps, a man whose life story is a testament to the power of divine protection and the beauty of restoration. From the high-stakes world of law enforcement to the front lines of disaster restoration, Josh shares his journey of moving away from a life of "performance" and into a place of spiritual stillness.The Shift from Performance to StillnessFor years, Josh struggled with a deep-seated need for approval, a drive rooted in his early experiences with adoption and attachment. Even after a radical conversion to faith, he found himself trying to "earn" God’s favor through religious activity and strict performance. It wasn't until his life faced a total collapse—marked by betrayal, divorce, and loss—that he heard the transformative call of Psalm 46:10: "Be still and know that I am God." This stillness became his anchor, preventing a downward spiral and teaching him what it truly means to be "covered" by God’s grace.Divine Protection on the Front LinesJosh recounts harrowing stories from his time as a police officer, where the line between life and death was razor-thin. He shares three specific instances of divine intervention: surviving two active shooting incidents and a miraculous moment where a fellow officer saved him from walking into a spinning helicopter tail rotor. These stories serve as a sobering reminder that life can end in an instant, and that God’s hand is often moving in ways we cannot see.Restoration and a New IdentityToday, Josh has transitioned from law enforcement to the restoration business as the founder of First Response Water and Mold Removal. He views his professional work as a ministry, using his own history of personal tragedy to offer comfort and integrity to clients in their darkest moments. By naming his company "First Response," he honors his past while making a promise to never abandon those in need—healing the very wounds of abandonment he once carried.Endurance Under TrialThe episode concludes with a powerful reflection on resilience and the promise that "Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial." Josh’s story is a reminder that while trials may feel like abandonment, they are often the very tools God uses to rebuild us stronger than before.Connect with Josh Phelps:Website: firstresponsewaterandmold.comEmergency Services: 239-365-MOLDSupport the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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Ep 1 - The Process of Pain
Send us Fan MailPain is something we all try to avoid, yet it’s often the very thing that shapes us most. In this episode, The Process of Pain, we sit down with Chris Horseman of Horseman’s Landscape to talk honestly about what pain looks like when it shows up in real life—not as a theory, but as a process.This conversation isn’t about quick fixes or motivational clichés. It’s about the unseen grind, the seasons of pressure, and the moments when growth feels more like breaking than building. Chris shares his journey through adversity, responsibility, and refinement, and how pain—when faced instead of escaped—can become a tool that forms character, resilience, and purpose.If you’ve ever wondered why some of the hardest seasons produce the strongest people, this episode pulls the curtain back. Pain isn’t the end of the story. Sometimes, it’s the process that prepares you for what’s next.Support the showAll rights reserved by 3 Doves Ministry, 3 Doves Podcast and 2 True Interactive, Inc.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
3 Doves Podcast is a weekly space for honest faith, thoughtful reflection, and real-life conversations rooted in Scripture. Each episode features genuine people sharing real stories of how God met them, carried them, and transformed their lives. We explore what it means to walk with God in the middle of everyday life—our work, relationships, struggles, doubts, growth, and calling. These are conversations about faith lived out, not cleaned up. About grace in the process, not perfection on display.
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