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4th And Forever
by fourthandforeverfootball
4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on [email protected] or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.
Episodes
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Ep 174 - Week 5 - Nobody Wants To Win
Why is everyone seemingly TRYING to lose these games?! Ugh, anyway... oh... we've ran out of time for this description, resulting in a tie. Someone's gonna get fired for this...
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Ep 173 - Week 4 - Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss
Apparently the more things change, the more Patrick Mahomes ends up back on top somehow. Ugh. Stuart and Darren review Kenneth Walker running wild in Vegas, the Jaguars becoming suspiciously competent, the Eagles forgetting how third downs work and the Giants continue to defy medical science...…
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Ep 172 - Week 3 - We Don't Know Nothin
So... do we know anything about any of these teams yet? YOU BET WE DON'T!
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Ep 171 - Week 2 - The Overcorrection
From the Bears crashing back to earth, to the Ravens reverting to type (in the wrong way), to Denver finally remembering to play football and the Chiefs doing Chiefs things again... it's post-week 2 in the NFL, babaaaay. PS - You'll also learn the etymology of the phrase "different kettle of…
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Ep 170 - Week 1 Poinstravaganza!
The NFL is back with a series of bangs - each louder than the last! It wouldn't be the 4th and Forever Podcast if we didn't completely ditch a previous format in favour of something completely different... so this is... something! There’s plenty to unpack, from"statement" wins and early...
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Ep 169 - Week 1 Preview (+BAKING News)
The time for talk is over... ... well, for the teams anyway. Here at the 4th and Forever Podcast, we are only just getting started! Part way through recording we got some BAKING News which we will just share with you here: Baker Mayfield has signed a $3 year $165million extension with the Tampa…
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Ep 168 - 2026 Season Preview Personalities Draft
Guess who's back with the same ol' crap?! That's right, 4th and Forever are back on the airwaves headin' straight for your earholes just in time for the start of the 2026 season! There's faaaaaar too much to catch up on, so Darren and Stuart decided to just draft some of their most interesting...
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Ep 167 - AFC South & West Offseason Recap
Mercifully, our audio issues have been resolved! Not just that, but we sound BETTER THAN EVER*! And just in time for some seriously interesting NFL teams!... also the AFC South. Jokes, they are ALL fascinating to us here at 4AF HQ, enjoy the Offseason Recap Finale - AFC South and West! (*well, we...
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Ep 166 - *POOR AUDIO* AFC Offseason Recap - Part 1 (North and East)
Welp, the organisation we do our pods through has changed something resulting in a pretty much unlistenable podcast - which is a real shame, because it was a lot of fun! Anyway, if you'd like to give it a try anyway, here is the AFC North and East. Out apologies to all the listeners, but mainly…
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Ep 165 - NFC Offseason Recap - Part 2 (East and West)
WE GO AGAIN. Keep it movin' people! NFC East and West, comin' through like a frieght train with greased wheels and no brakes! "Would that make a freight train go any faster?" I DON'T KNOW.
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Ep 164 - NFC Offseason Recap - Part 1 (North & South)
Crank up your offseason motors, the 4th and Forever Podcast is BACK. In what was initially billed as a 2+ hour extravaganzaaaaaaaaa, we've seen the light and broken things up into two more digestible parts, kicking things off with the NFC North and South. Man we love football!
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Ep 163 - Super Bowl LX
And just like THAT... the season was over. From early September when all 32 teams were in with a chance... down to the final 2... down to the final 1: The Seattle Seahawks - Super Bowl LX Champions Stuart takes guides you through this weekend's action solo. We hope you enjoyed the game. We hope…
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Ep 162 - The 1st Annual 4th and 4evvie Awards!
You can keep your NFL Top 100, your OPOYs, your DPOYs, your OROYO-YOs and your LMNOPs - the 4th and 4evvies are THE most covetted awards in the NFL. It's the greatest NFL awards show which sandwiches the planet between hosts on opposing sides of the globe! Who was the most fun? Who made the best...
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Ep 161 - "Dick Darnoldly" (Championship Games + Super Bowl Preview)
NFL Championship weekend gave us two completely different games with ALL the intrigue. Controversial play calls. Missed kicks. Special Teams gaffs. Big time defence. Big time offence. SNOW! ... and then... there were two: The New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks will battle it out in…
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Ep 160 - CALL AN AMBULANCE... but not for me! (DR/CR)
I'm sorry, but there shouldn't be THIS MUCH drama in a sporting event, should there? Once the show finishes, the drama is supposed to be OVER. Can't someone tell that to the Broncos? Please? PLEASE?! Quick News: Coaching Carousel Here's what...
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Ep 159 - "WOO! WILDCARD B*TCHEEES!" (WC/DR)
Jumpin' Jehosaphat! Did ya'll see those Wildcard Round games?! You got your upsets You got your massive comebacks You got your hold on wins You got your losses that resulted in massive organisational change You got your sideline catch from Big Dom in Philly This. Week. Had. It. ALL. Rams @…
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Ep 158 - TGI THE PLAYOFFS! - Wildcard Round
Praise be! The dross has been discarded and only the elite remain! ... also the Panthers are here. THE NFL PLAYOFFS ARE HERE!
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Ep 157 - Week 17-18 - The (Playoff) Implication
The dry turkey and roast potato sandwiches may be past their best at this point, but the 4th and Forever Podcast is as fresh as ever! How did Stuart get on in his TWO Fantasy League Bowls? Find out between the 4-Back and 4-Ward! From everyone at the 4th and Forever Podcast, thank you for being…
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Ep 156 - Week 16-17 - Merry Crisis!
Ho ho ho! Meeeeerry everyoooone! Darren and Stuart are here to put a smile on your face like a satsuma in your stocking - yes, that was a thing that people used to find delightful! 4-Back: Rams @ Seahawks Packers @ Bears Bucs @ Panthers Patriots @ Ravens 4-Ward: Eagles @ Bills Bears @ 49ers…
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Ep 155 - Week 15-16 - Junior Senior
We had our 5000th download this week! I swear that's not a typo either! Thank you to each and every one of you who has ever put us in your ears. We really appreciate it! News: Tua is BENCHED, Mahomes is DONE This week, we look 4-back at: Cardinals @ Texans Chargers @ Chiefs Lions @ Rams Vikings @...
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Ep 154 - Week 14-15 - "Quadragenarian"
With the loss of Daniel Jones, the Colts are turning to Jonny Unitas to lead them the rest of the season. ... sorry, I got mixed up. It's Philip Rivers, who is a little older. 4-Back Colts @ Jags Steelers @ Ravens Bears @ Packers Texans @ Chiefs 4-Ward Bills @ Patriots Lions @ Rams Packers @...
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Ep 153 - "Itsumi!" - Playoff Picture
Together 4th and Forever <3 As usual, tales of our demise were... somewhat exaggerated... LET'S TALK PLAYOFF PICTURE, BABAAAAAY! Also some Scott McTominay and Super Mario chat for some reason.
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Ep 152 - Week 5-6 - BOTHSTRADAMUS
Stuart is relatively well contained after predicting the Eagles downfall at the hands of his Broncos... but you can reeeeeeally feel the smugness in your ears. *shudder* 4-Back: Denver @ Philly Miami @ Carolina San Fran @ LA Rams Tampa @ Seattle 4-Ward: Broncos @ Jets (4th and Forever LIVE in...
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Ep 151 - NFL Dublin + It’s Been 4 Weeks and Everyone’s Played 4 games Award Show
Stuart had an absolute BLAST with Eric in Dublin - hear the immediate aftermath right up top in this week's episode. Followed by that it's the 4th And Forever It’s Been 4 Weeks and Everyone’s Played 4 games Award Show!
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Ep 150 - 2025 Week 3-4 - 4Back 4Ward Runs It Back
Block... BLOCK... bLoCk!... BLOOOOCK!!! And thus concludes my interprative poetry recital of Week 3 of the 2025 NFL Season. 4-Back: Rams @ Eagles Jets @ Bucs Broncos @ Chargers Lions @ Ravens 4-Ward: Vikings @ Steelers (in Dublin) Eagles @ Bucs Ravens @ Chiefs Packers @ Cowboys
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Ep 149 - 2025 Week 2-3 - 4Back 4Ward Returns
Hang on a minute! Two episodes back to back that follow roughly the same format?! That REEKS of consistency - very UN-4thAndForever of us! 4-Back: Cowboys @ Giants Pats @ Dolphins Broncos @ Colts Bucs @ Texans 4-Ward: Rams @ Eagles Lions @ Ravens Cardinals @ 49eres Steelers @ Pats
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Ep 148 - 2025 Week 1-2: "4 Back - 4 Forward"
Call the pulmonologist, because that week 1 has left us BREATHLESS! Another chop and change for our format, because we like to keep you on your toes. It's the "4 Back - 4 Foward". 4 Back: Vikings @ Bears Ravens @ Bills Steelers @ Jets Chiefs "@" Chargers (in Sao Paolo) 4 Forward: Eagles @ Chiefs...
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Ep 147 - 2025 Week 1 Preview - Football's Back (in Pod form)
In order to contain our excitement, let's keep this short: Football. Is. Back. So. Are. We. Sucks. To. Be. You. Key Games: Bucs @ Falcons Broncos @ Titans (a lil Giants @ Commanders) Lions @ Packers Ravens @ Bills (a lil Miami Dolphins peppered in there too)
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Ep 146 - "Love Is In The Air(raid Offence)"
In the BIGGEST news of today, Stuart and Darren got together in an online studio again for the first time since... now when was it...? I dunno, something happened back in Feb. Who are some of the players that the guys are excited to see some more of in the 25-26 season? Also: - WEDDINGS - Cowboy...
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Ep 145 - 2024-25 Championship Weekend Preview
After an excellent and very varied slate of Divisional games, we now turn to the final four with two incredibly juicy match-ups full of intrigue, narratives and... ... oh I just got flagged for not having mentioned the Chiefs yet. 15 yard penalty on the Bills. Automatic 1st down... Commanders @...
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Ep 144 - 2024-25 Divisional Round Preview (DARREN IS BACK!)
Contrary to popular belief, Darren has not perished! He hath returned with insight for the upcoming Divisional Round games and the occassional look over the shoulder to what came before in the Wildcard Round. News: - Pats fire former Pro Bowl linebacker and hire former Pro Bowl linebacker…
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Ep 143 -2024 SUPER Wildcard Round NFC Solo
After taking some time out to recover, watch Hamilton vs Partick Thistle then being distracted by an episode of Still Game followed by a Best of Only An Excuse... the boy has only gone and pulled the NFC Super Wild Card Preview out of his behind!
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Ep 142 - 2024 SUPER Wildcard Round AFC Solo
IT'S SOMETHING! Stuart returns to bash out the AFC Super Wild Card Round match-ups before a throat issue knocks him out of action. Will he return for the NFC? Who knows? Do you care? Maybe? Are repeated questions a cheap writing device? Almost certainly yes.
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Ep 141 - 2024 Week 10 (inc. DA RIZZLER)
Week 10 gave us a heap more one score games, and a number of shocks. But most of all... it gave us... DA RIZZ! And yes, that IS the real shape of his head. Can't wait to do a full feature on him if he keeps going like this.
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Ep 140 - 2024 Week 9 + Trade Deadline
The 5th of November 2024 is no doubt an incredibly important day. Millions across America and BILLIONS across the world have their eyes transfixed on the U-S of A. The time for conjecture is behind us. Now is the time for Americans to stand up... ... and tell us what they think about Za'Darius...
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Ep 139 - 2024 Week 8 - HAIL MARY!
Firstly: New podcast audio recording software is a-go! Let us know what you think! Week 8 threw up a slew of shock results, wacky finishes and story lines that will keep us satisfied until... well... week 9!
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Ep 138 - 2024 Week 7-8 (Return Of The Muffles)
If you thought Darren's audio problems couldn't get any worse then last week, then you were SORELY mistaken! Now that I've hooked you in with a reason to test your ability to listen to someone speak into a microphone submerged in syrup between two Tempur mattresses (not a sponsor... yet), week 7...
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Ep 137 - 2024 Week 6-7 + Adams The Jet
"Hey everybody! Darren's back! :D" ...*inaudible grumbling*... He may have forgotten how to appropriately record audio for a podcast, but he hasn't forgotten how to bring the heat when it comes to the NFL chat. Playing with a new recap formula, you end up hearing a lot of Stuart in this one. Man…
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Ep 136 - 2024 Week 5-6 + So Long Saleh
SO LONG SALEH! With a bomb dropped in the hours leading up to recording, Stuart brought in the elder statesman - Steve Bothwell - once again to break down the crazy goings on in New Jersey!
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Ep 135 - 2024 Week 4-5 + "Are You For Real?!"
Since Stuart and Stevie B were both preoccupied over the weekend, it's a swift run through week 4, but it's brand new seg time. "Are You For Real?!"
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Ep 134 - 2024 Week 3 Recap/4 Preview
With Darren away again (and very much enjoying the fact that he has Jayden Daniels retained in our fantasy league for the next 4 years!), up steps Papa Both to the plate once again to assist Stuart in providing your weekly dose of NFL blethering. Key Week 3 Games: Texans @ Vikings Saints @ Eagles...
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Ep 133 - 2024 Week 3 Preview
"Substitution for 4th and Forever: Coming off, number 2 - Darren Butter. He will be replaced by number 51 - Steve Bothwell" *RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE!* Everyone loves a super-sub! In at the last minute for the week 2 recap/week 3 preview, fresh off the plane from his holiday, it's Papa Bothwell! Expect...
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Ep 132 - 2024 Week 2 Preview
Week 1 of the 2024 NFL season is - as the cliche goes - IN THE BOOKS! Stuart and Darren talk Ravens toes, Bengals woes and many more contests between foes! Sorry, I felt I had to keep the rhyme going. There is also a debut of a new segment of whimsy around the 2 minute mark! Focus Games: 49ers @...
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Ep 131 - 2024 Week 1 Preview
HOLY FRIJOLES! We thought it would never arrive! Week 1 of the 2024 NFL season is ACTUALLY here! Stuart and Darren get to talk about actual, meaningful games full of genuine intriuge - and they couldn't be happier! WELCOME TO THE 2024 SEASON!
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Ep 130 - AFC East and South Preview
With a little over a week until the start of the NFL season, it's time to put a bow on the division preview series with the AFC East and South. Plenty of top tier rosters (of which the Patriots are NOT one) to get through in this one!
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Ep 129 - AFC West and North Preview
On to the AFC portion of the preview shows with the much maligned AFC West and the slaughterhouse that is the AFC North. Will Stuart manage to curb any Broncos optimism? Or is he a BO-liever?!
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Ep 128 - NFC East and South Preview
As we trek through two of Darren's most favouritistest divisions, Stuart develops a couple of new man-crushes along the way. NFC East and South it is!
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Ep 127 - NFC West and North Preview
OH MY GOD! Football is actually HAPPENING!... in pre-season form, but still. The regurlar season is hurtling towards us like a Devin Hester kickoff to the house, so we best get on with things! It's NFC West and North Preview time!
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Ep 126 - Darrens All-Time Vibes Team Or Whatever
The world has held it’s collective breath LONG ENOUGH… finally, the time has come… for DARREN'S All-Time Vibes Team Or Whatever!
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Ep 125 - Stuarts All-Time Non-Broncos Vibes Team Or Whatever
What players stick in the twisted mind of Stuart when he thinks of his NFL journey? It's a trip down Memory Lane (which is just two blocks down from Nostalgia Street) as he names his top all-time non-Broncos vibes team... or whatever... he sort of understood the assignment!
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4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on [email protected] or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.
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