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Alan and Brent talk about Modern Testing (which isn't all that modern, and not really about testing - except when it is). Every other week or so, A&B tell stories and discuss what's happening in the world of software - including a variety of topics like Agile, Lean, Delivery, DevOps, Data Science, Experimentation, Leadership, and more. Intro / Outro music on the AB Testing podcast is The One by Rivet. License: CC BYIntro / Outro music on ABT343 is from https://filmmusic.io“Werq” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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    Episode 229: Testing in the Age of AI

    In this engaging interview, Chris Armstrong from SmartBear discusses the evolving role of testing in the age of AI, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, system thinking, and responsible AI integration to ensure quality and trust in software development.https://smartbear.com/ai-software-quality-gap-report/https://smartbear.com/blog/levels-of-autonomy-in-software-development-closing-the-gap-between-creation-and-confidence/

  2. 241

    Episode 228: Hangin' with Shachin and Pulkit

    Shachin Agarwal and Pulkit Agarwal join Alan for a discussion on AI in testing.https://evertest.ai

  3. 240

    Episode 227: Elisabeth Hendrickson

    In this engaging interview, Elisabeth Hendrickson shares her journey through the tech industry, her insights on systems thinking, and the principles behind her upcoming book 'Signals and Levers.' Discover how her experiences shape modern approaches to quality, leadership, and software delivery.Elisabeth's book: https://signalsandlevers.com/Elisabeth's linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed/The Curious Duck website: https://curiousduck.io/

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    Episode 226: (REPLAY) The Croissants are Selenium w/ Jason Huggins

    In this replay of episode 103, we are joined by Jason Huggins, the creator of Selenium, to discuss the true intent of the tool and why the industry has developed what Alan calls a 'tragic sickness' and an 'unhealthy infatuation' with UI automation. Driven by his belief that hand-crafted UI tests are an inefficient 'money pit' and a 'maintenance nightmare,' Alan challenges the traditional reliance on Selenium and advocates for developers owning automation to ensure better code design. Together with Huggins, we explore the history of the 'mercury monster' and the 'Steel Cage Match' while looking toward a future where robotics, AI-assisted record-and-playback, and data-driven experimentation replace brittle, legacy scripts

  5. 238

    Episode 225: Walmyr's Journey

    SummaryIn this episode of the AB Testing Podcast, host Spy welcomes back Walmyr, a seasoned QA engineer and educator, to discuss his journey in quality assurance, the importance of quality culture in software development, and the transition to agile environments. Walmyr shares insights on his experiences with test automation, the significance of effective test design, and the challenges of navigating job changes and company culture. The conversation also touches on personal growth, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and the impact of remote work on team dynamics. Walmyr emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and knowledge sharing in the tech industry, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone interested in quality assurance and software development.More on Walmyr here: https://walmyr.dev/

  6. 237

    Episode 224: 2026 End of Year Mayhem

    In this episode of the A-B Testing Podcast, Spy, Walmyr, and Global Warming reflect on the past year, discussing their favorite books, podcasts, and entertainment from 2025. They delve into the importance of code review and refactoring in the age of AI, share personal finance strategies, and explore the evolving landscape of remote work. The conversation also touches on predictions for 2026, including the impact of AI on job markets and the future of work dynamics.

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    Episode 223: Lina Zubyte

    Lina joins Spy this week to talk about metrics, her upcoming book, and a bit about AI (with a whole lot of ranting).More from Lina on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/linazubyte/

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    Episode 222: Quality is a System

    Spy is joined by Globalworming, and we talk about quality as a system, PCT hike statistics, and narrative fiction.

  9. 234

    Episode 221: Project Management Thoughts w/ Timm Gleason

    Brent is still on hiatus, so Spy-Friend Timm Gleason joins the podcast this week to talk about stuff - but especially Spy's rant's on project management.

  10. 233

    Episode 220: Spy Returns

    Back after a long hiatus - or half back. No Brent this week, but Andreas Worm and Danny Faught listen while I tell trail stories

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    Episode 219: Mailbag and Goodbye For Now

    We take on a mailbag question, and then talk a bit about the upcoming AB Testing hiatus as Alan prepares for a very long walk in the woods.

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    Episode 218: The Principles of AI Assisted Coding

    We ramble a bit...but then get somewhere interesting. Worth a listen.

  13. 230

    Episode 217: Remote Work and Big News

    Alan gives Brent some advice on engaging remote workers, and Alan shares some bigly news.

  14. 229

    Episode 216: A Palate Cleanser from AI

    We take a mailbag question - and talk about other stuff.

  15. 228

    Episode 215: The Beat Goes On

    More ranting and discussions (and sometimes, some insights) from Brent and Alan.

  16. 227

    Episode 214: The AI Apocalypse

    It's been a while, but we're back to disagree about measuring developer productivity, and then talk about the doom and rebirth coming from AI.

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    Episode 213: The 2024 Year in Review

    Usual end of year episode where we reflect on 2024, and look forward to 2025.

  18. 225

    Episode 212: AI and Engagement Surveys

    Once again, we ramble on topics we didn't plan on talking about.

  19. 224

    Episode 211: Leadership Stuff

    Welp - Alan asked Brent how it was going, he said it was review season, and then 40 minutes of babbling commenced

  20. 223

    Episode 210: Mailbag with ChatGPT

    We're lazy, so we let chatgpt kick us off with a mailbag question. Tangents followed.

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    Episode 209: AI and Testing?

    It's hard to tell what we talked about in this episode. But it involved a sleep-deprived Alan, and Brent, the Cat-Lady.

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    Episode 208: Brain Refactor w/ Dagna Bieda

    The wonderful Dagna Bieda joins us to talk about her new book, Brain Refactor. Buy the book at https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Refactor-Engineering-Fulfillment-Opportunities/dp/B0DB69G798/ and learn more about Dagna at https://www.themindfuldev.com/

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    Episode 207: No, GenAI isn't replacing your team

    We talk about this article - https://stackoverflow.blog/2024/06/10/generative-ai-is-not-going-to-build-your-engineering-team-for-you/ - which is good, but hyperbolic at times.

  24. 219

    Episode 206: Crowd-Crash

    Just like millions of others, we feel the need to talk about crowdstrike - just a bit. Then we talk about leadership, engagement, and potential new podcasting ventures.

  25. 218

    Episode 205: We're Afraid of AI

    It's another episode of the AI Testing Podcast, where we discuss the advancements of AI, parallels to nuclear war, and what humans will do in the future. Links - OpenAI reportedly nears breakthrough with “reasoning” AI, reveals progress framework The Day After

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    Episode 204: The Three Ways of Devops & MT

    We talk about a lot of stuff - because that's what we do. Somewhere in there, we talk about the overlap between the ways of devops and MT, and Brent threatens to rewrite the first principle.

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    Episode 203: Podcast Alan

    We talk about "Podcast Alan", and a bit about Alan's day job. Once again, going with the minimal editing approach.

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    Episode 202: The Return

    It's been a long break. Again. But there are reasons. This time, we take a mailbag question and talk about the challenges of organizational change.

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    Episode 201: Aftermath

    In the aftermath of the episode 200 extravaganza, we talk about Fallout (the show), and take a mailbag question that evolves into yet more discussions on AI.

  30. 213

    Episode 200: IT'S EPISODE 200

    We recorded this episode live - sort of. We have guests. We have fun. We get bobbleheads. We talk about AI. It's EVERYTHING you could ask for on our 200th episode AND 10th anniversary.

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    Episode 199: Ten Years Gone

    For the first time in ten years, Brent and Alan both listen to the very first episode of AB Testing (so you don't have to).

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    Episode 198: Fiefdoms

    We talk about fiefdoms - but mostly we end up talking about the growth mindset.

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    Episodde 197: Wait - Test is Alive Again

    Somewhere in the middle of a whole lot of tangents, we take a walk though James Whittaker's post on The Resurrection of Software Testing - https://medium.com/@docjamesw/the-resurrection-of-software-testing-634423cd8411

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    Episode 196: A Chat with Kat Obring

    We had a great time with a wonderful guest. Big thanks to Kat Obring for hanging out with us. Sign up for Kat's newsletter here - https://katobring.podia.com/ You can find Kat on linkedin here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/katjaobring/ And even more about Kat and her business here - https://kato-coaching.com/

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    Episode 195: AI and Alicorns

    We start with a bit of a retro of the last few episodes and once again head off into the weeds of AI.

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    Episode 194: More Testing and AI with Jason Arbon (part 2)

    It's the remainder of the interview with Jason. It gets fun, it gets weird, and it gets cool.

  37. 206

    Episode 193: More Testing and AI with Jason Arbon (part 1)

    We spent a little extra time with Jason and talked A LOT about AI, testing in AI, and whether or not Alan or Brent will have a quality title some day.

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    Episode 192: Bryan Finster

    We are joined by Bryan Finster who talks about his journey with CD, Developer Testing, and he shares all kinds of fantastic information on delivering quality software. You can read his 5-minute devops blog at blog.bryanfinster.com see his podcast (vcast?) on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@devhopspodcast9535) and see some of his work on CD at minimumcd.org

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    Episode 191: 2023 Year End Extravaganza

    It's our annual year end episode where we discuss our predictions from a year ago, reflect on the last year, and think a bit about what may happen in 2024.

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    Episode 190: We Could Be Heroes

    We talk a bit about our friend chat GPT, and then talk about heroes in the workplace. There's an obvious cross-over to Alan's post on angryweasel.substack.com that's worth checking out.

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    Episode 189: Brent being Brent

    We're back and recording on a new platform - except when we aren't. In this episode, we talk about...not AI...and instead talk about the Peter Principle and Brent finally reading the Phoenix Project.

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    Episode 188: AI Testing with Jason Arbon

    We talk with Jason Arbon about - you guessed, AI. Unfortunately, this recording only contains two thirds of our discussion, since zencastr decided to do its own thing.

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    Episode 187: All we talk about is AI

    Yeah - we talk about AI, and (eventually) wonder if AI can be a good CEO.

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    Episode 186: IC or Manager - That is the Question

    In this episode, Brent and Alan answer a mailbag question, and talk about how and when they have changed between manager and IC (individual contributor - aka non-manager) roles.

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    Episode 185: The ROI of Test Automation

    So...Perze asked a question that he said was probably a thought experiment, but we tried to answer, but Perze was right and it ended up being a thought experiment after all - but the answer is in there somewhere.

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    Episode 184: Is Testing a Dying Profession

    We discuss an article by the same name, but also dive extensively into the topic, whether it's true or not (or maybe), and tell some stories along the way.

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    Episode 183: Premature Escalation

    We're back after a mini-break. In this episode, we talk about the concept of Premature Escalation, and whether or not teams are crossing the chasm into Modern Testing. And a bunch of tangents along the way.

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    Episode 182: Brian Pulliam and StrengthsFinders

    We are joined by Brian Pulliam, and we go waaaay deep into StrenthgsFinders. It was fascinating and fun, and a ton of fun. Brian's website is https://refactorcoaching.com/, and you can find more about StrengthsFinders at https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/strengthsfinder.aspx

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    Episode 181: The AI Testing Podcast

    We talk a lot (again) about AI. Just like Agile was a disruptor when we began the podcast AI is a disruptor that you can ignore at your own peril, or embrace and ride the wave. There's some other good stuff here as well.

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    Episode 180: Brent is Mary Poppins

    Apologies for the delay - anchor failed us for the first time (or maybe the problem was pbkac) - but posting 12 hours late regardless. We spend a little time talking about our previous guest (chat gpt), whether AI is taking our jobs away, return to office, windows phone, and /finally/ a bit (abstractly) about Alan's new gig.

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Alan and Brent talk about Modern Testing (which isn't all that modern, and not really about testing - except when it is). Every other week or so, A&B tell stories and discuss what's happening in the world of software - including a variety of topics like Agile, Lean, Delivery, DevOps, Data Science, Experimentation, Leadership, and more. Intro / Outro music on the AB Testing podcast is The One by Rivet. License: CC BYIntro / Outro music on ABT343 is from https://filmmusic.io“Werq” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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