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About Abortion

Is there a more divisive, controversial, or (for many) painful issue than abortion?1 in 3 women in the UK has at least one abortion in her lifetime, and yet almost no-one is talking about it.If the subject ever is broached, it’s often not in the most helpful way: more heat than light; people talking past, at, or for each other, instead of to each other.It’s time for a proper conversation about abortion.Dave Brennan, together with a whole range of guests, helps us to think through this issue carefully and calmly, examining facts, experiences, and arguments from all sides.

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    Mere Christian Nationalism: Can we at least agree on THIS?

    In this episode of About Abortion Dave seeks to find a fruitful starting-point for the conversation on Christian Nationalism: clarifying terms and finding common ground in an arena so often fraught with confusion, controversy, and contention.JOIN THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    What Next? Now the House of Lords has Backed Full-Term Abortion Decriminalisation

    The House of Lords last week voted 185-148 in favour of decriminalising DIY abortion up to birth.What now?How should we respond?JOIN THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website for resources or to book a Brephos Speaker for your church or event: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    DIY Abortion Up to Birth Decriminalised: Why Are We Surprised?

    The House of Lords last week voted 185-148 in favour of decriminalising DIY abortion up to birth.We should be shocked.But why are we surprised?Dave takes us back to 1965 to trace the witness of the British Church regarding the baby genocide. Some of these facts may shock you.He argues that what we're saying should shock us but not surprise us: this is what we've asked for.JOIN THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website for resources or to book a Brephos Speaker for your church or event: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Debbie Mountford, Worcestershire: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    "Probably a Racist": Restore Britain, Rupert Lowe, and the Secret Art of Bulverism

    Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Can Little Local Churches Defeat the Abortion Juggernaut?

    What might it look like for local churches to confront the abortion juggernaut?What part to play do local churches have in rescuing babies from death?Should there be a uniform response or are different churches called to different areas?Is there a conflict between "justice" ministries and "grace" ministries? Is "campaigning" at odds with "pastoral"?Should the pro-life movement be a movement parallel to the Church or a movement OF the Church?What is Brephos working and praying for to happen in local churches?Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Ploughing or Planting: Which does YOUR church need next?

    Is the work of Brephos destructive or constructive?Are we here to confront the Church or help the Church?Prophetic or pastoral?Where is your church at right now, and what does it need next? Does it need to be woken up? Or does it need practical help and guidance in establishing a pro-life ministry? Revelation TV interview:    • Politics Today - Warning: Govt Statistics ...  Coalition for Marriage interview:    • Marriage is the safest place for the unbor...  Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Esther's Paralysis and a Mordecai Mandate: What is Brephos for?

    What does Esther 4 teach us about our cultural and spiritual moment?What is Brephos all about?Where do local churches come into all this?Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    1 in 3 Killed / Record-Breaking 2023 Abortion Statistics Released / How Should the Church Respond?

    Record-Breaking 2023 Abortion Statistics have been released. The death toll is shocking. How should we respond?https://spuc.org.uk/spuc-responds-to-...Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Martin Ledger, Somerset: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    God in the Womb: Day 23 - The Woman, The Child, and The Dragon

    Day 23 - The Woman, The Child, and The Dragon

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    God in the Womb: Day 22 - The Massacre of the Innocents

    Day 22 - The Massacre of the Innocents

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    Bondi, Grooming Gangs, and Islam: How should Christians Respond?

    In this episode Dave is joined by Jeremy Fowler to discuss how we should respond - at a Church level, at a political level, and at an personal level - to the horrors of the grooming gangs in the UK.How important is it to investigate the alleged link between Islam and such atrocities?How do we differentiate rightly between Muslims and Islam?Does the Bible speak into gender-based violence and systemic abuses?What is the Christian response to these things?Why has the Church been so quiet?What does this have to do with abortion?Jeremy Fowler is a writer and speaker specialising in the Kurdish world and Christian-Muslim relations. He is an elder at Magdalen Road Church, Oxford (FIEC).MORE INFO ON JAN 5TH DAY OF FASTING:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aIfREKTbHCw06sBBdQMZ5-INwhKtb_bHRozpOmzPu2M/edit?tab=t.0Abortions as part of the abuse and cover-up:https://righttolife.org.uk/news/press-release-grooming-gangs-abortion-loophole-mps-call-for-law-change?utm_source=chatgpt.comhttps://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2019-05-14/debates/349FA275-CB65-45C0-87C7-EE16D1FD1B0A/GroomingGangs?utm_source=chatgpt.comOne girl experienced 8 forced abortions over her 12 years of abuse.Jeremy’s article in Evangelical Timeshttps://www.evangelical-times.org/grooming-gangs-a-christian-response/Dr Mark Durie’s article UK Grooming Gangs and Islamhttps://christianconcern.com/resource/report-uk-grooming-gangs-and-islam-by-mark-durie/Jeremy's further reflections on the Grooming Gangs can be found on his Substackhttps://open.substack.com/pub/jeremyibrahim/p/grooming-gangs-understand-the-problem?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=webRead more about Jeremy's work and his work on a biography of Cumberland of Kurdistan (d 1938)https://open.substack.com/pub/jeremyibrahim/p/my-work-as-a-writer-and-speaker?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=webRead more about Jeremy's work and his work on a biography of Cumberland of Kurdistan (d 1938)https://open.substack.com/pub/jeremyibrahim/p/my-work-as-a-writer-and-speaker?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=webTo book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    God in the Womb: Day 5 - Elizabeth's Faith

    Day 5 - Elizabeth's Faith

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    God in the Womb: Advent Announcement ahead of December 1st!

    Quick announcement: we'll be releasing daily Advent devotions over December.Audio-only, here and on podcast platforms.Subscribe now so you don't miss out.

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    To the Church in Jersey

    Radical abortion law reform is being threatened in Jersey.The Church is beginning to rise up to be a voice for justice.Will you join the movement? cbruk.org/joinFind out more about the situation in Jersey with regard to abortion law reform by watching Nov 27th episode of Politics Today from Revelation TV: https://revelationtv.com/politicsttodayPlease pray for Jersey and if you are in Jersey and want to get active on this, get in touch with us and we can connect you with other budding activists on the Island.

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    Ben Poch, Essex: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Joy Wilson, Dorset: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Juliet Philip, Aberdeenshire: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Beth Richards, Thames Valley: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    Check out brephos.org for resources and speakers to help your church teach on abortion.To book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    "Dunking on Keller"? My Response to Gavin Ortlund

    Gavin Ortlund has waded into the "Third Way" debate that's been raging: here Dave responds to Gavin's short video.This matters because bad politics kills babies.Check out brephos.org for resources and speakers to help your church teach on abortion.To book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    DEBUNKED! 5 Myths About Abortion Decriminalisation

    Second Reading of the Crime and Policing Bill, which includes the abortion up to birth amendment, is in the House of Lords October 16th.You can use this function to select a few Peers from the House of Lords to write to: https://www.theyworkforyou.com/peers/Why not include some of these facts/arguments?Relevant links:https://www.cbruk.org/they_said_it_wa...Check out brephos.org for resources and speakers to help your church teach on abortion.To book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    Wasn't Charlie Kirk a Far-Right Racist Misogynistic Bigot?

    After our last two videos about Charlie Kirk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgJGpqmqqUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSGh795He4M&t=49s), a question/objection has come back from several quarters:"How can you speak up in support of someone who was such a racist, misogynistic, divisive, Far-Right bigot?"In this episode we take a deep dive into these allegations, looking at what Charlie himself said in context, and relating all this to how GB Christians process the media, align ourselves politically and socially, and engage (or don't engage) with the controversial issues of the day, such as the baby genocide.Relevant links:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefsClip 1 - https:https://youtu.be/jBiiQY0Rgpg?si=esIslLWXTYThQLWCIf you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023Clip 2 -https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-goes-unhinged-racist-rant-prowling-blacks-go-around-fun-go-target-whiteClip 7 -https://x.com/i/status/1679829904026730496Clip 8 -Charlie refuting white supremacy: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17NcMg3DTS/Clip 9 -Charlie Kirk is not a racisthttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Dj4nKsXRw/Clip 10 - Black and white DNA is the same, race is a social construct https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1b2WgvnAnm/Clip 11 - Charlie explaining the problem of black fatherlessness https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17H8HSsogF/Clip 12 - Black pilot remark explained (short on campus)https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FaqcNALF5/Clip 13 - No white privilegehttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/17Bc2LYKmN/Clip 14 - Blacks were better off in the 40s and 50s - full contexthttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/17BCJLaGFH/Clip 15 - Racism is a sinhttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/1F96Xvj1Ym/Clip 16 - Immigration - long form answerhttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/1eaXf5vFa1/Clip 17 - https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FXE4vwpRj/Clip 18 - A Gay conservativehttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BhHq33m74/Clip 19 - Answer to “what do you think about gays”https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15G8berXuut/Clip 20 - https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1FScAZw7Cq/Clip 21 - Pro-life, Defending life with “Christian” defending abortion because of exodus 21https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DG4t3SceC/Clip 22 - A baby is a blessinghttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ZG4Six3op/Clip 23 - Charlie on when he accepted Christ and sharing gospelhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ByFt8pkG3/Clip 24 - https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B3D9z3YMc/Clip 25 - Jesus was 100% grace and truth - sin no morehttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/16Nrcu7bpt/Clip 26 - On Jesus https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1JxRGCKbdj/Clip 27 - Modern churchhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ChaDXGHv1/Clip 28 - Church big, government small; refuting Christian leftismhttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/175u9DEuEm/Clip 29 - Jesus and how do we love our neighbour (Campus)https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Gd3YEbYfJ/Clip 30 - gay man found Christ and left LGBTQhttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/1FigjzYT5d/Clip 31 - We should love on the cowardly pastorshttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/169vuj9Thb/Clip 32 - If you don’t stand for something you stand for nothinghttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BUuk9BnUD/Check out brephos.org for resources and speakers to help your church teach on abortion.To book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    Charlie Kirk and the Demise of the Third Way

    Having challenged the UK Church's self-distancing from Charlie Kirk in the last video (   • Rejecting Charlie Kirk: The UK Church's Sh...  ), in this video Dave examines the way of thinking that seeks to justify such neutrality - "Third Way -ism".Dave argues that Third Way -ism has been thoroughly discredited by events of the last two weeks especially, and that to hold onto it at such a time as this is untenable.Held up against Scripture, case studies, and logic, the Third Way is found wanting.Apart from anything else, the Third Way approach gives cover to those who would advance or defend the baby genocide raging on both sides of the Atlantic. It enables evil and delays justice, and represents a version of Christianity that is post-truth and amoral.Check out brephos.org for resources and speakers to help your church teach on abortion.To book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    Rejecting Charlie Kirk: The UK Church's Shameful Misstep

    After the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk and the huge response globally, Dave shines the spotlight on the UK Church.Why are we shunning him?Was Charlie a martyr?What do faith and politics have to do with one another?What does all this mean in the light of Matthew 25?Are we sheep or goats?Check out brephos.org for resources and speakers to help your church teach on abortion.To book a speaker e.mail [email protected] To join the movement to end abortion go to cbruk.org/joinPlease share this video.

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    Beth Davey, East Anglia: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    From a close brush with puberty blockers aged 4, Beth and her husband Gwil have journeyed through the question of IVF and other fertility treatments to where they are today.In this episode, Beth has some very exciting news to announce!Hear her amazing story of the Lord's guidance, reassurance, and grace over the years, and why she's come on board the Brephos Speaker Team.Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Beth Davey, East Anglia: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    From a close brush with puberty blockers aged 4, Beth and her husband Gwil have journeyed through the question of IVF and other fertility treatments to where they are today.In this episode, Beth has some very exciting news to announce!Hear her amazing story of the Lord's guidance, reassurance, and grace over the years, and why she's come on board the Brephos Speaker Team.Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church: [email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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    Beth Davey, East Anglia: Introducing our Brephos Speaker Team

    From a close brush with puberty blockers aged 4, Beth and her husband Gwil have journeyed through the question of IVF and other fertility treatments to where they are today.In this episode, Beth has some very exciting news to announce!Hear her amazing story of the Lord's guidance, reassurance, and grace over the years, and why she's come on board the Brephos Speaker Team.Over these weeks we're getting to know the members of our Brephos Speaker Team, spread right across GB, from Cornwall to Scotland.Hear their faith stories, why they're pro-life, Scriptures and moments that have gripped them, and how they can help YOUR church to teach on abortion.Book a speaker for your church:[email protected] THE MOVEMENT to end abortion: cbruk.org/joinVisit our website: brephos.orgDonate to support our work: brephos.org/give⁠ Follow us on:Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3zyKhjr.⁠.Anchor: ⁠https://anchor.fm/aboutabortion⁠Castbox: ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/id4970594?.⁠.Apple Podcasts: search "About Abortion Brephos"

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Is there a more divisive, controversial, or (for many) painful issue than abortion?1 in 3 women in the UK has at least one abortion in her lifetime, and yet almost no-one is talking about it.If the subject ever is broached, it’s often not in the most helpful way: more heat than light; people talking past, at, or for each other, instead of to each other.It’s time for a proper conversation about abortion.Dave Brennan, together with a whole range of guests, helps us to think through this issue carefully and calmly, examining facts, experiences, and arguments from all sides.

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