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AI Values Exchange
by Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden
Our podcast is going to be a bridge across many of the key issues being discussed by developers, businesses, governments and users as the AI market grows. We will talk about the value of AI, but crucially the values that underpin its future. And of course, that means looking at the future of AI from multiple perspectives, both from within organisations and for public information.
Episodes
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Ep. 22 | British Army Ex CDAO | How To Protect Entry Level Jobs from Agentic AI
95% of AI projects fail, so why do agentic AI leaders keep winning? In Episode 22 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden sit down with Tim Carmichael, Chief Data Officer at Chalhoub Group and a former British Army officer, for a conversation that refuses the easy version of the...
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Ep 21. | Can AI Replace Judgement? | AI & Advanced Computing Prof. Julie Wall
AI governance means little if judgement cannot keep up. Can a boardroom trust a deepfake that only needs to create doubt, not fool anyone completely? In Episode 21 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden sit down with Professor Julie Wall to ask an uncomfortable question for…
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Ep. 20 | UK Space Agency's Ex-Tech Chief: "We Can Not Control AI"
AI governance is usually treated as a policy problem. Mat Mallett, who has led technology at board level from the UK Space Agency to a cancer charity he founded himself, says the real problem is that even he can't control generative AI once it's out in the world.In this episode of The AI Values...
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Ep. 19 | AI Governance & the Future of AI: A Global Divide | Edosa & Lindley
The future of AI will not be won by the richest countries. The UN warns it could split the world in two: are you ready for the divide, or the leapfrog?In Episode 19 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden take on one of the most contrarian questions in AI governance right now…
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Ep. 18 | Reinventing Yourself for the Age of AI | UN AI Chief Lambert Hogenhout
AI governance is usually framed as risk mitigation. Lambert Hogenhout, the United Nations' Chief of Data and AI, says that's exactly the problem: we've gone from fifteen years to adjust to a new technology, down to fifteen hours.In this episode of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley...
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Ep. 17 | AI's Real Trust Problem Isn't The Technology | Tolu Adebekun | The AI Values Podcast
52% of people now trust AI less than they trust humans with their data. On Episode 17, Edosa Odaro asks whether AI governance can survive a trust deficit this steep, and whether it's really the technology failing us, or the institutions behind it.This week, Edosa Odaro is joined by Tolu Adebekun...
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Ep. 16 | Santiago Castro: "This Is NOT a Google Search" | Why Every Executive Is Using AI Wrong
The biggest AI risk isn't hallucination, says Santiago Castro. It's expecting a generative tool to behave like a search engine.Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden sit down with Santiago Castro, Director of Data & AI Strategy at Pay.UK (the UK's retail payments authority) and formerly Global Head of AI…
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Ep. 15 | The AI Bubble Question Value vs. Expectation | The AI Values Podcast
Gartner says just 1 in 50 AI investments deliver transformational value. So is this the AI bubble bursting, or the smartest money in the room?In Episode 15 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden go head-to-head on the question every board is quietly asking: is the AI investment...
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Ep. 14 | I Want AI to Do My Washing, Not My Creative Writing | The AI Values Podcast with Ming Tang
89% of UK organisations are deploying agentic AI. Only 21% have mature AI governance to match. What happens when you automate to death, and who pays? In Episode 14 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden are joined by Ming Tang, former Chief Digital, Data & Technology Officer at...
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Ep. 13 | Who Decides the Trade-Offs Built Into Every AI? | ft. Tolu Adebekun
AI values are not created by AI capability alone. 95% of enterprise AI fails to deliver measurable ROI. The real problem is not the technology: it is alignment, leadership, and whether anyone in your organisation has actually defined what value means.In Episode 13 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa...
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Ep. 12 | 80% of AI Unused: How to Be in the 20% That Works | Nicolas Averseng | The AI Values Podcast
80% of data and AI products in organisations are never used. That is not a pilot problem; it is an AI value management crisis happening at scale right now.In Episode 12 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden sit down with Nicolas Averseng, Chief Product Officer at DataGalaxy and...
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Ep. 11 | World Models, AI Autonomy & AGI: Is Intelligence Enough? | The AI Values Podcast
What if your organisation's AI strategy rests on a system that doesn't understand the world the way you think it does? Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden go head-to-head on Episode 11 of The AI Values Podcast on the debate that is quietly splitting the AI research world in two: LLMs versus world...
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Ep. 10 How AI Is Rewriting the Career Playbook | Amy Shi-Nash, PhD | The AI Values Podcast
Most AI projects fail not because the technology fails, but because humans never fully integrate it into their way of working. Amy unpacks what successful AI implementation really looks like, not from the tech side, but from the human side. From boardroom tensions to culture change, career...
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Ep. 9 The Lost Language of AI Value | Nobody Speaks The Same Language | The AI Values Podcast
Only 15% of organisations can put a hard number on the AI value they've delivered to their board. Not a technology problem a language one. This is where AI value gets lost. In Episode 9 of The AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden go head-to-head on one of the most uncomfortable...
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Ep. 8 | Make AI Work: Stop Selling AI, Start Selling The Outcome | The AI Values Podcast
What if 40% of your workforce is quietly correcting AI hallucination every single month and the productivity gain you booked never actually arrived? Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden sit down on Episode 8 of The AI Values Podcast with David Edem a data and AI transformation leader who has spent two...
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Ep. 7 | Agentic AI Rewrites Your Whole Business | The AI Values Podcast
What if 40% of agentic AI projects are already heading for failure and the first warning sign isn't an error. Instead, it is tension? Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden go head-to-head on Episode 7 of The AI Values Podcast for the most uncomfortable conversation we've had yet on agentic AI in the...
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Ep. 6 | Why AI Projects Really Fail | Graeme McDermott | The AI Values Podcast
What if 95% of AI projects aren't really failing and the actual problem is that no one defined what success looked like in the first place? Graeme McDermott, Chief Data Officer at Tempcover, with two decades leading data and analytics functions across the AA, Addison Lee and Tempcover joins Edosa...
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Ep. 5 | Value Erosion. The AI Failure Boards Never See | The AI Values Podcast
What if 68% of AI projects have already failed and the boardroom is the last to know? Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden go head-to-head on Episode 5 of The AI Values Podcast for the most uncomfortable conversation we've had on AI investment yet, especially on value erosion, the capability paradox…
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Ep. 4 | More People Will Switch Off From AI | The AI Values Podcast ft. Dr Naeema Pasha
What if the biggest AI risk isn't bias or hallucination but the quiet moment where people simply switch off? Dr Naeema Pasha joins Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden on Episode 4 of The AI Values Podcast for one of our most human conversations yet on trust, fairness, AI literacy, and the leadership...
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Ep. 3 | Are We Trusting AI Too Much? | The AI Values Podcast
Confident doesn't mean correct. And the space between those two things can have real, serious consequences. In this episode of the AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden ask one of the most important questions of the AI age: are we trusting AI too much? Through two real and gripping...
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Ep. 2 | Why Most AI Projects Fail Before They Start | The AI Values Podcast ft. Jon Cooke
Most AI projects fail. And it's rarely the technology that's at fault. In this episode of the AI Values Podcast, Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden sit down with Jon Cooke who has spent over 20 years building, selling, and rescuing large-scale AI and data initiatives across banks, scale-ups, and...
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Ep. 1 | AI Gives. But AI Also Takes Away | The AI Values Podcast
Welcome to The AI Values Podcast a series dedicated to the relationship between artificial intelligence and the values that shape our world. In this first episode, hosts Edosa Odaro and Lindley Gooden introduce the conversation that sits at the heart of this series: AI is extraordinary, but what...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Our podcast is going to be a bridge across many of the key issues being discussed by developers, businesses, governments and users as the AI market grows. We will talk about the value of AI, but crucially the values that underpin its future. And of course, that means looking at the future of AI from multiple perspectives, both from within organisations and for public information.
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