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And Then, An Aeroplane

by Alison Autumn June and Em Marko

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Join Alison Autumn June (@alison_coffee) and Em Marko (@em_being) on a journey through the entire filmography of Studio Ghibli twice a week! We take questions, talk about Miyazaki’s love of all things aerial, and generally relax in the balm of some of the most delightful anime on earth. Take a break and join us!

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  1. And Then, An Aeroplane 26 - The Boy and the Heron

    A podcast emerges from the mists of time with the hosts in very different places in their lives only to find that Miyazaki? That mfer is so goddamn the same. You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em on the Abnormal Mapping network!…

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  2. And Then, An Aeroplane 25 - The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness

    It’s over! We have finally crossed the finish line with thoughts on Ghibli culture, Hideaki Anno, Goro the hero, our rankings of films, and the strange and difficult journey this podcast has been. Thanks for sticking with us through the ups and many many downs and I hope some day we can all sit...

  3. And Then, An Aeroplane 24 - Earwig and the Witch

    Here we are, a movie that literally came out while we were recording this podcast, bringing us to the end of new Ghibli movies for now! Also, turns out it’s a movie everyone hates. How do two veteran Ghibli haters fare? The answer might surprise you. Please send all your questions and comments…

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  4. And Then, An Aeroplane 23 - When Marnie Was There

    The final theatrical Ghibli movie (for now) brings us to the questions of what we actually want from films from this studio, a world without Miyazaki or Takahata, and the strange relationships of childhood colored by nostalgia and depression. Finally we can answer the burning question: was Marnie...

  5. And Then, An Aeroplane 22 - The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

    We dig into the final Takahata movie with a great sense of both wonder and sadness for the conflicting feelings that we find in this retelling of a classic folk tale. This one was difficult for both of us for differing reasons. Rip to a real one. Please send all your questions and comments about...

  6. And Then, An Aeroplane 21 - The Wind Rises

    We’ve come to the pinnacle of Miyazaki, the film he retired* on, a movie I had always heard referred to as one of his greatest works. Welp, we did our best, and I hope you will understand. Maybe the next one will be better. Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything...

  7. And Then, An Aeroplane 20 - From Up on Poppy Hill

    A raucous episode as we talk Japanese history, Ghibli house style, trailer reactors to the new film, and most importantly GORO’S REVENGE! This was a fun one to podcast about, surprisingly! Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to [email protected]!...

  8. And Then, An Aeroplane 19 - Arrietty

    The power of very small things and very little plot wins the day on this chill episode of And Then, An Aerooplane. Also, we get very distracted and talk about bullshit! Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to [email protected]! You can listen to…

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  9. And Then, An Aeroplane 18 - Ponyo

    We return from our hiatus to talk about the joy of low ambitions and the power of abandoning all your high detail technology to go back to focusing on the art with Ponyo! Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to [email protected]! You can listen to...

  10. And Then, An Aeroplane 17 - Tales from Earthsea

    Today we’re here to talk about the tragic tale of Goro Miyazaki and the terrible movie he was forced to make. There’s very little of worth here, sorry, just enjoy us taking apart Earthsea. It wasn’t Goro’s fault. Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to...

  11. And Then, An Aeroplane 16 - Howl's Moving Castle

    We return from a long hiatus to talk about what might be our most divisive take yet. What does it mean to get popular internationally? What does it mean to adapt a work that isn’t your own two decades after it’s release? What does it mean to show your whole ass trying to say something about the...

  12. And Then, An Aeroplane 15 - The Cat Returns

    What better way to follow up Spirited Away than a 75 minute sequel to a lesser known movie made for a theme park that never happened? That’s where we find ourselves today as Ghibli breaks out the Baron for another adventure and we enjoy the brief misadventures of a girl and some cats. Please send...

  13. And Then, An Aeroplane 14 - Spirited Away

    We finally land on the most important Ghibli film for almost all western moviegoers as we tackle the behemoth that is Spirited Away! Do our memories of this movie hold up? Do we find ourselves in the same conundrums we struggled with during Kiki’s? A surprising series of twists and turns in this...

  14. And Then, An Aeroplane 13 - My Neighbors the Yamadas

    Our slightest film yet finds us at a loss for conversation but not a loss of heart as we discover that Takahata can just make a nice movie that doesn’t wreck your heart. Finally! Also, the delights of a movie that just looks better than traditional anime. Please send all your questions and…

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  15. And Then, An Aeroplane 12 - Princess Mononoke

    We reach the halfway point of this adventure and come across one of the most famous and contentious movies yet. How do we feel about Miyazaki’s return to war and ecology? More importantly, can we stan Lady Eboshi while thinking she’s a villain? And finally, we must continue to ask: will Autumn…

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  16. And Then, An Aeroplane 11 - Whisper of the Heart

    We remain in New Tama which has just become Tama today as we explore the quieter feelings of what it means to be young and desire to create things. Because it’s us, we couldn’t help bring class into it, and no we will not apologize! Also, when exactly is teen love turning into getting married not...

  17. And Then, An Aeroplane 10 - Pom Poko

    A historical record of the tanuki war, we find Takahata’s Pom Poko one of the most rewarding and difficult movies to watch and talk about since starting this project. Who would have thought the man who brought you Grave of the Fireflies could turn joy into sorrow so easily and profoundly? Who…

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  18. And Then, An Aeroplane 9 - Ocean Waves

    Finally we are divided on a movie. This week we look at the television film Ocean Waves, taking apart its chill aesthetics and light romance to see if it holds water or if it’s actually all washed up. I’m out of ocean puns, but that’s okay, because the movie is short. Please send all your…

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  19. And Then, An Aeroplane 8 - Porco Rosso

    We return to one of both of our favorite films as we discuss the strange mix of new and familiar that is Porco Rosso. Everyone knows he’d rather be a pig than a fascist, but what does that actually mean in the context of this story? Also, we have our first protagonist that is a grown man since...

  20. And Then, An Aeroplane 7 - Only Yesterday

    The first movie on this adventure that neither of us have seen, Only Yesterday bowls over both Autumn and Em with incredible storytelling and beautiful animation and design. Sometimes watching movies is just a delight, with no qualifications, and this week is absolutely one of those. I hope you…

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  21. And Then, An Aeroplane 6 - Kiki's Delivery Service

    A week later than expected but that’s what happens when you have to go to that job and deal with that sadness. Our Kiki talk veers all over the place as we confront the reality of one of the warmest films we’ve ever seen also being an advocate for some ideas that fill us with disquiet and...

  22. And Then, An Aeroplane 5 - My Neighbor Totoro

    It’s time for the second half of a double feature of sorrow as we find My Neighbor Totoro surprisingly sad as adults who understand that children are right to be afraid of what might go wrong even in the warmest of tales. Also, an announcement about our schedule going forward. Let’s all wish for...

  23. And Then, An Aeroplane 4 - Grave of the Fireflies

    We take on the tragedies minor and major in one of the most heart-wrenching films either of us has ever seen with Grave of the Fireflies. The joys of life, the sorrows of death, and the failures of community and country both wartime and not take the center stage in this beautiful movie. Please…

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  24. And Then, An Aeroplane 3 - Laputa: Castle in the Sky

    Studio Ghibli is now a real thing and we watch their first film in this, the third episode of our rewatch podcast. Today we discover that everything that isn’t a Nausicaa is instead a Laputa, we discuss the limits of a setpiece first storytelling method, and we love us some adorable robots. Truly...

  25. And Then, An Aeroplane 2 - Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind

    There are classics and then there are classics, and this week we watch arguably the most important work of Hayao Miyazaki as we delve into our pile of emotions around Nausicaa. We talk Miyazaki’s already apparent tropes, ecology, politics and war, depictions of women, voice acting, fatalism vs...

  26. And Then, An Aeroplane 1 - Lupin the Third: The Castle of Cagliostro

    Welcome to the premier of And Then, An Aeroplane! Hosts Alison Autumn June and Em Marko begin their year long voyage to the bright shores and high skies of the films of Studio Ghibli, bringing you a new movie every two weeks. This time, we begin with the first film by Hayao Miyazaki, and the…

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About this show

Join Alison Autumn June (@alison_coffee) and Em Marko (@em_being) on a journey through the entire filmography of Studio Ghibli twice a week! We take questions, talk about Miyazaki’s love of all things aerial, and generally relax in the balm of some of the most delightful anime on earth. Take a break and join us!

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Frequently asked questions

How many episodes does And Then, An Aeroplane have?

And Then, An Aeroplane has 26 episodes on PodParley. The most recent episode was published on March 17, 2025.

What is And Then, An Aeroplane about?

Join Alison Autumn June (@alison_coffee) and Em Marko (@em_being) on a journey through the entire filmography of Studio Ghibli twice a week! We take questions, talk about Miyazaki’s love of all things aerial, and generally relax in the balm of some of the most delightful anime on earth. Take a...

How often does And Then, An Aeroplane release new episodes?

And Then, An Aeroplane publishes about every 81 days, based on its 26 episodes since August 2019.

Who hosts And Then, An Aeroplane?

And Then, An Aeroplane is created and hosted by Alison Autumn June and Em Marko.
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