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Application Security Weekly (Audio)
by Mike Shema
About all things AppSec, DevOps, and DevSecOps. Hosted by Mike Shema and John Kinsella, the podcast focuses on helping its audience find and fix software flaws effectively.
Episodes
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Standardizing Mobile Defense: Inside the OWASP Mobile App Security Project v2 - Jan Seredynski, Ryan Lloyd - ASW #405
The OWAS Mobile Application Security (MAS) project recently released an updated version of its guidance, with excellent advice organized into common weaknesses, a verification standard for devs (MASVS), and a testing guide (MASTG). Ryan Lloyd and Jan Seredynski from Guardsquare dive into the...
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What's Not Found in AppSec? - ASW #404
To celebrate our 404th episode we discuss what's not found in modern appsec and what still exists that should become not found. The conversation starts with a classic problem of appsec -- looking for a reliable vuln prioritization methodology. But we expand from there to challenge whether a focus...
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Getting Granular with Access, Attributes, and Intent - Alex Olivier - ASW #403
The principle of least privilege access is ubiquitous in recommendations, but perhaps too uncommon in practice. Alex Olivier explains how the AuthZen Working Group has been approaching new standards, guidelines, and practical deployment patterns to make it easier for orgs to establish more…
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Going From Bug Bounty Bugs to More Secure Systems - Shlomie Liberow - ASW #402
Finding flaws with LLMs and agents is changing bug bounty programs. But it's not necessarily changing how orgs fix those flaws. Shlomie Liberow shares his experience across a decade of bounty programs and how they have changed for researchers and orgs. He explains why fixing the bug reported...
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Understanding Prompt Injection In Order to Contain It - Julie Brunias - ASW #401
Prompt injection demonstrates one of the major challenges in securing LLMs and agents -- how do you ensure an agent ignores attackers and only does what you instructed it to do. The flaw highlights how LLMs mix inputs, context, and outputs without any strict boundaries between them. Julie Brunias...
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The AI Threat Multiplier: Securing Mobile Apps in the Automated Era - Ryan Lloyd, Jason Cortlund - ASW #400
While agents and LLMs haven't fundamentally changed core mobile vulnerability types, they have supercharged speed, scale, and accessibility—democratizing threats like automated phishing, synthetic identity fraud, and easier identification of hard-coded secrets. Ryan Lloyd and Jason Cortlund break...
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Security Conversations on AI, Agents, and Emerging Threats from Black Hat 2026 - Michael Leland, Ido Geffen, Sean Murphy, Idan Plotnik - ASW #399
We showcase recordings from this year's Black Hat. The Hidden Risks of the AI Supply Chain - Black Hat interview with Michael Leland, VP and Field CTO of Island Agents can independently discover and install tools, but the emerging ecosystem of Skills and MCP servers lacks many of the trust and...
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Fixing Software Weaknesses Rather Than Just Finding More Flaws - Gil Geron, Nidhi Aggarwal, Braden Russell - ASW #398
AppSec has always emphasized techniques and tools for discovering vulns, along with taxonomies and lists for describing them. But just piling up more CVEs into a prioritized patching queue has never been an effective strategy. Nidhi Aggarwal talks about some of the economics and decisions that…
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Applying Zero Trust Principles to Agents - Kieran Human - ASW #397
Sandboxing, least privilege, and monitoring are well-established controls in terms of the defenses they provide against unexpected and unauthorized actions. But being well-established in theory doesn't always translate to successful in practice. Kieran Human talks about some of the properties…
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Augmenting Threat Intel Analysis with Agents - Chris Wallis, Sai Kiran Uppu, Ramin Farassat - ASW #396
All sorts of cybersecurity disciplines are adopting agents to help humans save time and automate routine activities. Sai Kiran Uppu describes his work on creating a platform for agents to analyze external threat intel, examine internal systems, and present triage decisions to operators. This type...
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Using LLMs for Vuln Discovery - Rishi Sharma - ASW #395
Finding flaws has always been a focus of appsec. And now with open source projects and open weight models orgs have modern tools to review code and conduct pentests. Rishi Sharma describes the motivation behind creating a platform of LLM-driven security tools and the effective ways to keep the...
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Prompting for Patches That Fix Vulns Without Adding New Ones - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #394
There's already an increase in volume of security flaws found by LLMs. And orgs are already turning to LLMs to write code. So, what happens when orgs lean on LLMs to create patches for those security flaws? Keith Hoodlet gives an exclusive early look at his team's recent research into the…
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Inside the OWASP Agent Security Regression Harness Project - Mert Satilmaz - ASW #393
Orgs need to be able to use agents, MCPs, and LLMs in ways that don't lead to unexpected actions and undesirable outcomes. The OWASP Agent Security Regression Harness project is an approach for defining customizable scenarios and testing whether those systems fail against known security threats....
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MacOS Security Design Features, Flaws, And Futures - Patrick Wardle - ASW #392
Appsec often frames usability and security as at odds with each other. Apple's software has famously emphasized the importance of usability while also creating a solid security foundation. Patrick Wardle talks about how he's seen malware shift from Windows to macOS, how Apple's aggressive stance…
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Discovering & Securing Your AI Agent Attack Surface - Jeremy Snyder - ASW #391
While LLMs and agents are new to appsec and everyone else, a lot of AI security requirements translate to well-known API security requirements. Jeremy Snyder helps us frame the OWASP LLM Top 10 into five layers in order to help orgs understand and prioritize their attack surface. A lot of orgs...
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Defense-in-depth strategies for securing mobile applications - Ryan Lloyd - ASW #390
Mobile applications have unique risks and threat models compared to server-side applications and infrastructure. Consequently, they need different strategies to ensure their business logic and workflows well secured. We'll dive into some of these defense-in-depth strategies and why they are...
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Reducing Attack Surface & Evaluating Efficiency in Agents - Itamar Apelblat, David Goldschlag - ASW #389
SquidBleed reveals another vuln that's been lurking for decades, but its real lesson is in managing an attack surface. Regardless of whatever programming language you use, removing code is one of the best security steps you can take, followed by changing default configs to turn off uncommon...
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How AI Is Reshaping Identity Security at the Infrastructure Layer - Amit Masand, Neha Duggal, Ev Kontsevoy - ASW #388
Appsec has seen machine identities from daemons and processes to services, microservices, and cloud accounts. And now we have agents. Ev Kontsevoy talks about what it means to have engineers and agents interacting in an environment, and why a focus on actions can be more effective than roles. One...
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Why Does It Matter Who or What Created the Code? - Matias Madou - ASW #387
Agents and LLMs are creating and reviewing code. They're a new tool to help developers write software and they're a new abstraction layer for expressing what code should do. But if we're focused on determining whether code is secure, where do we focus our attention on ensuring a secure outcome?...
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Scanner Results Are a Starting Point. Here's What Comes Next. - Federico Kirschbaum - ASW #386
Most AppSec teams are working through more findings than their teams can validate. SAST surfaces thousands of potential issues. DAST generates alert volume that outpaces triage capacity. Somewhere in that output are the vulnerabilities that matter, the ones that are actually exploitable in...
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BadHost, Dead CTFs, Exploding NPMs, and the Verizon DBIR - ASW #385
We dedicate an episode to catching up on appsec news with Kalyani Pawar. We see parsing problems that led to the BadHost vuln, which exposed lots of LLMs, MCPs, and agents to potential compromise. We wonder where to look for security education and practice as the camaraderie of the CTF community...
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AppSec Conversations on Agents, LLMs, and OWASP from RSAC - Merritt Maxim, Scott Clinton, Janet Worthington - ASW #384
We showcase recordings from this year's RSAC. At RSAC Conference 2026, Scott Clinton, Co-Chair and co-founder of the OWASP GenAI Security Project, shares insights from the project's latest research, including new landscape guides and evolving approaches to securing generative and agentic AI...
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The State of AI & AppSec - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #383
This year has been a dichotomy of established secure design fundamentals and burgeoning chaos of LLM-driven vuln discovery. Keith Hoodlet returns to share his latest observations on what the recent news about Mythos, models, and harnesses means for appsec. He walks through the problems of...
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Why Basic Security Practices Still Work - Rob Allen - ASW #382
If you have to ditch your entire appsec strategy because you expect 2026 to bring more vulns more quickly, then you probably didn't have a good strategy in the first place. Rob Allen shares how the mentality of "assume breach" doesn't have to be a defeatist attitude and can instead be a way to...
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Keeping Up With the OWASP GenAI Project - Scott Clinton - ASW #381
Speed is the most common theme among developers and appsec teams working with LLMs and agents, from trying to keep up with patterns for deploying agents to dealing with more code faster to how the latest models impact code quality and security. The OWASP GenAI Project is helping organizations…
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Top 10 Web Hacking Techniques of 2025 and a Hint for 2026 - James Kettle - ASW #380
Portswigger's list of web hacking techniques is a long-running celebration of curiosity and research from the web hacking community. James Kettle shares his thoughts on the entries from 2025 and how he expects LLMs and agents to influence what the list will look like for next year. He also shares...
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The Human Aspect of Red Teams - Brian Fox, Tom Tovar, T. Gwyddon 'Data' Owen - ASW #379
Red team exercises set goals to see if a particular outcome can be accomplished through a simulated attack, but the ultimate outcome should be educating the org about how to improve tools and processes that make attacks more difficult to succeed. Gwyddon "Data" Owen shares his experience building…
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Securing Software's Journey with the OWASP SPVS - Ido Geffen, Rohan Ravindranath, Cameron W., Farshad Abasi - ASW #378
It's one thing to write secure code, it's another to release it into the wild. That code needs to be designed, built, tested, released, and maintained. Farshad Abasi and Cameron Walters explain how the OWASP Secure Pipeline Verification Standard picks up from where ASVS left off, how it…
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AppSec News Roundup on Claude Code Leak, Axios NPM Compromise, Secure Design - Idan Plotnik, Raj Mallempati - ASW #377
Security problems aren't changing very much even though security teams are. We catch up on the implications of the Claude Code source leak, the very human lessons from the axios NPM compromise, and what secure design looks like when it involves agents, humans, or both. AppSec has always…
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Developing the Skills Needed for Modern Software Development - Keith Hoodlet, Shashwat Sehgal, Ron Rasin - ASW #376
The future of secure software is going through a mix of skills expected of humans and skills files created for LLMs. We might even posit that appsec as a discipline will fade (and that might not even be a bad thing!). Keith Hoodlet describes the skills he was looking for in building teams of...
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Why Proactive Security Is Far Better Than Patching - Erik Nost - ASW #375
So much of appsec's efforts can be consumed by vuln management and a race to patch security flaws. But that's more a symptom of the ease of scanning and the volume of CVEs. Erik Nost walks through the principles behind proactive security, why the concept sounds familiar to secure by design, and…
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Creating Better Security Guidance and Code with LLMs - Mark Curphey - ASW #374
What happens when secure coding guidance goes stale? What happens LLMs write code from scratch? Mark Curphy walks us through his experience updating documentation for writing secure code in Go and recreating one of his own startups. One of the themes of this conversation is how important...
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Making Medical Devices Secure - Tamil Mathi - ASW #373
Medical devices are a special segment of the IoT world where availability and patient safety are paramount. Tamil Mathi explains why many devices need to fail open -- the opposite of what traditional appsec approaches might initially think -- and what makes threat modeling these devices…
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Modern AppSec that keeps pace with AI development - James Wickett - ASW #372
As more developers turn to LLMs to generate code, more appsec teams are turning to LLMs to conduct security code reviews. One of the biggest themes in all the discussion around LLMs, agents, and code is speed -- more code created faster. James Wickett shares why speed continues to pose a…
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Helping Users with Practical Advice to Protect their Digital Devices - Runa Sandvik - ASW #371
Journalists put a lot of effort into collecting information and protecting their sources, but everyone can benefit from having a digital environment that's more secure and more privacy protecting. Runa Sandvik shares her experience working with journalists and targeted groups to craft plans for…
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Conducting Secure Code Analysis with LLMs - ASW #370
A major premise of appsec is figuring out effective ways to answer the question, "What security flaws are in this code?" The nature of the question doesn't really change depending on who or what wrote the code. In other words, LLMs writing code really just means there's mode code to secure. So,...
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Bringing Strong Authentication and Granular Authorization for GenAI - Dan Moore - ASW #369
When it comes to agents and MCPs, the interesting security discussion isn't that they need strong authentication and authorization, but what that authn/z story should look like, where does it get implemented, and who implements it. Dan Moore shares the useful parallels in securing APIs that…
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Focusing on Proactive Controls in the Face of LLM-Assisted Malware - Rob Allen - ASW #368
Everyone is turning to LLMs to generate code, including attackers. Thus, it's no great surprise that there are now examples of malware generated by LLMs. We discuss the implications of more malware with Rob Allen and what it means for orgs that want to protect themselves from ransomware.…
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Building proactive defenses that reflect the true nature of modern software risk - Paul Davis - ASW #367
Supply chain security remains one of the biggest time sinks for appsec teams and developers, even making it onto the latest iteration of the OWASP Top 10 list. Paul Davis joins us to talk about strategies to proactively defend your environment from the different types of attacks that target…
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Lessons from MongoBleed, CWE Top 25, and Secure Coding Benchmarks - ASW #366
MongoBleed and a recent OWASP CRS bypass show how parsing problems remain a source of security flaws regardless of programming language. We talk with Kalyani Pawar about how these problems rank against the Top 25 CWEs for 2025 and what it means for relying on LLMs to generate code. Visit...
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Secure By Design Is Better Than Secure By Myth - Bob Lord - ASW #365
Not all infosec advice is helpful. Bad advice wastes time, makes people less secure, and takes focus away from making software more secure. Bob Lord talks about his efforts to tamp down hacklore -- the security myths and mistakes that crop up in news stories and advice to users. He talks about…
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The Upsides and Downsides of LLM-Generated Code - Chris Wysopal - ASW #364
Developers are adding LLMs to their code creation toolboxes, using them to assist with writing and reviewing code. Chris Wysopal talks about the security downsides of relying on LLMs and how appsec needs to adapt to dealing with more code at a faster pace. Resources...
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AI-Era AppSec: Transparency, Trust, and Risk Beyond the Firewall - Felipe Zipitria, Steve Springett, Aruneesh Salhotra, Ken Huang - ASW #363
In an era dominated by AI-powered security tools and cloud-native architectures, are traditional Web Application Firewalls still relevant? Join us as we speak with Felipe Zipitria, co-leader of the OWASP Core Rule Set (CRS) project. Felipe has been at the forefront of open-source security…
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Modern AppSec: OWASP SAMM, AI Secure Coding, Threat Modeling & Champions - Sebastian Deleersnyder, Dustin Lehr, James Manico, Adam Shostack - ASW #362
Using OWASP SAMM to assess and improve compliance with the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) is an excellent strategy, as SAMM provides a framework for secure development practices such as secure by design principles and handling vulns. Segment Resources: https://owaspsamm.org/...
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Developing Open Source Skills for Maintaining Projects - Kat Cosgrove - ASW #361
Open source projects benefit from support that takes many shapes. Kat Cosgrove shares her experience across the Kubernetes project and the different ways people can make meaningful contributions to it. One of the underlying themes is that code is written for other people. That means PRs need to…
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Making OAuth Scale Securely for MCPs - Aaron Parecki - ASW #360
The MCP standard gave rise to dreams of interconnected agents and nightmares of what those interconnected agents would do with unfettered access to APIs, data, and local systems. Aaron Parecki explains how OAuth's new Client ID Metadata Documents spec provides more security for MCPs and the…
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Making TN Critical Infrastructure the Most Secure in the Nation - T. Gwyddon 'Data' ("Gwee-thin") Owen, James Cotter - ASW #359
For OT systems, uptime is paramount. That's a hard rule that makes maintaining, upgrading, and securing them a complex struggle. Tomas "Data" Owens and James Cotter discuss how Tennessee is tackling the organizational and technical challenges that come with hardening OT systems across the state....
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Figuring Out Where to Start with Secure Code - ASW #358
What are your favorite resources for secure code? Co-hosts John Kinsella and Kalyani Pawar talk about the reality of bringing security into a business. We talk about the role of the OWASP Top 10 and the OWASP ASVS in crafting security programs. And balance that with a discussion in what's the…
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Secure Coding as Critical Thinking Instead of Vulnspotting - Matias Madou - ASW #357
Secure code should be grounded more in concepts like secure by default and secure by design than by "spot the vuln" thinking. Matias Madou shares his experience in secure coding training and the importance of teaching critical thinking. He also discusses why critical thinking is so closely…
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Ransomware, Defaults, and Proactive Defenses - Rob Allen - ASW #356
Just how bad can things get if someone clicks on a link? Rob Allen joins us again to talk about ransomware, why putting too much attention on clicking links misses the larger picture of effective defenses, and what orgs can do to prepare for an influx of holiday-infused ransomware targeting....
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