Are Drummers Musicians?

In this episode, I’m joined by Wild Gloriosa — the solo project of Gloria Ragesh — for an open and thoughtful conversation about identity, heritage, and creative independence.We talk about Gloria’s South Indian roots, her Singaporean upbringing, and how living in different places has shaped both her worldview and her music. She shares the story behind the name Wild Gloriosa, drawn from the flame lily of Tamil Nadu, and what it represents in her evolution as an artist.We discuss her earlier work with the band JOTHI, the decision to step forward as a solo artist, and what that transition required creatively and personally. Gloria reflects on touring as a support act for Jessica Mauboy, collaborating with other musicians, and the importance of creating spaces where authenticity and vulnerability are welcomed.The conversation also explores self-compassion, community, and how songwriting can become a reciprocal exchange between artist and listener.A really honest and reflective chat about growth, culture, and carving your own path in the soul and R&B space.hereEpisode recorded on February 10th, 2025.

In this episode, I’m joined by Naarm/Melbourne-based R&B and soul vocalist Janelle Ashley for a wide-ranging conversation about songwriting, identity, and building a music career on your own terms.We talk about Janelle’s early musical memories, growing up with Filipino karaoke culture, attending a music specialist high school, and eventually studying at WAAPA. Janelle shares her experience moving from Perth to Melbourne, navigating new musical communities, and developing confidence as an artist in a competitive and fast-moving scene.Our discussion touches on blending genres, studying the music of local artists like Hiatus Kaiyote, recording and releasing original music, and the role of social media in shaping both opportunity and pressure. We also reflect on maturity, learning not to compare yourself to others, and finding a personal interpretation of sound and storytelling.A thoughtful conversation about growth, creativity, and the lead-up to the release of Janelle’s debut EP.

In this episode, I’m joined by Melbourne-based soprano Maya Charles Sedergreen to talk about opera, early music, and the place of classical voice in a contemporary music landscape.We discuss Maya’s musical upbringing and family lineage, her path into classical singing, and her studies at the Melbourne Conservatorium of Music, where she recently completed her honours year in classical voice. Maya shares insights into her training, working closely with her teacher Suzanne Johnston, and developing a strong technical and artistic foundation as a young opera singer.Our conversation explores her performance experiences with BK Opera and Victorian Opera, concert work including Bach’s St Matthew Passion, and her growing interest in Early Music. We also talk about the realities of pursuing a career in opera today, how classical singers find relevance and space in modern performance contexts, and what draws Maya so strongly to historical repertoire.A thoughtful discussion about craft, tradition, and carving out a future in classical music.

In this episode, I’m joined by Kee’ahn — a Kuku Yalanji, Jirrbal and Badu Island pop-soul artist now living and creating on Kulin Nations (Melbourne).We talk about Kee’ahn’s early relationship with music, from singing with their father as a child, growing up on The Little Mermaid, Destiny’s Child, and being encouraged by a supportive grandmother, through to performing musical theatre alongside their dad. Kee’ahn shares what it was like moving from North Queensland to Naarm/Melbourne, finding community, and building meaningful musical collaborations.We discuss their debut single Better Things, winning the Archie Roach Foundation Award (and finding out via Zoom), and the impact of mentorship and collaboration with Emma Donovan, including their work together on Take No More. Kee’ahn also reflects on performing at major festivals across Australia, singing at the Invasion Day Rally on January 26th 2025, and the importance of authenticity, connection to Country, and community.The conversation also explores the significance of releasing a debut EP as a complete body of work rather than a series of singles, and what that represents creatively and personally.A thoughtful and open conversation about music, identity, and finding your place.

In this episode, I’m joined by Melbourne-based mix engineer and record producer Hayden Lauersen. It’s an open and reflective conversation about life in sound, the music industry, and finding contentment in your role within it.Hayden shares his journey from songwriting and producing original music into building a career as a mix engineer, where his focus is on supporting artists through emotional expression and clear, intentional sonics. We talk about the realities of working behind the scenes, developing a niche, and how reputation, trust, and community play a central role in sustaining a career in music.Hayden Lauerson has a long list of credits with artists - including Kate Ceberano, Clare Bowditch, Haiku Hands, Kee’ahn, Woodes, Shannen James, and RARIA, - alongside collaborations with labels such as Future Classic, Universal Music, Island Records and Ivy League Records. His work has been featured on BBC Radio 1, KCRW, Triple J, Fox FM and Nova, and has accumulated over 60 million Spotify streams.The conversation moves between technical and personal — touching on vocal production, microphone choices for singers, life as a freelance mix engineer, navigating health challenges, and what it means to arrive at a place of balance and clarity within the music industry.A thoughtful discussion about craft, career, and the long road of working in sound.

In this episode I’m joined by Jessica Wilson — J WILS, a professional Melbourne-based DJ and vocalist who has spent the past decade working across both original and cover settings. She has become one of Melbourne’s busiest performers, regularly appearing with many of Australia’s top musicians and at premier venues and events.A vibrant, generous and upbeat chat — Jesssica Wilson brings the same warmth and positivity to conversation that she brings to every stage she steps on.We talk about her earliest music memories, full-album road-trip listening with her family to Harry Connick Jr and The Doobie Brothers, and developing her own taste in music, discovering neo-soul, soul, jazz, and house. Jessica shares her path from trying many instruments as a kid, to finding her voice and becoming a professional singer.We discuss one of her favourite moments from her work as a backing vocalist with Thirsty Merc on Spicks and Specks, and being part of the band FOOLS, including their performances at the iconic Bluesfest. Jess also talks about becoming a DJ, making edits and remixes, and starting her new project VENTURA - a DJ/vocal duo built around energy and fun. We also touch on her love of fashion and stage outfits, her Jamiroquai fandom, and the realities of corporate and events work.A fun, wide-ranging conversation with an artist who genuinely loves making music — and notices all the small joys along the way.For more from Jessica Wilson, visit:instagram.com/jwils/vimeo.com/jwilslinktr.ee/jessica.jwils

In this episode, I’m joined by Michelle Nicolle, one of Australia’s most respected and enduring jazz vocalists. Known for her deeply musical approach to phrasing, improvisation and storytelling, Michelle has built a remarkable career as a singer, composer, arranger, bandleader and educator — recognised with Bell, Mo and Music Victoria Awards, the National Jazz Award, and multiple ARIA nominations.We talk about her two newest duo albums — one with legendary LA guitarist Larry Koonse and another with Paul Grabowsky — and the very different musical conversations each collaboration creates. Michelle reflects on her long journey in music: growing up and studying in Adelaide, moving to Melbourne, recording ten albums, touring nationally and internationally, and leading her long-running ensemble, the Michelle Nicolle Quartet.We also discuss the Australian jazz scene, changes in the industry, her long-standing 17-year weekly residency at the Brunswick Green, and the joy, challenges and humour that come with devoting a life to singing.A warm and generous conversation filled with stories, insight and lots of laughs.

In this episode, I sit down with drummer Peter Luscombe, a mainstay of Australian music whose feel, sound and instinct have shaped countless recordings and performances over the past four decades.We talk about his early years, his approach to groove, and the craft of supporting songs across a huge range of artists and styles. Peter reflects on long-term musical relationships — including more than 30 years playing with Paul Kelly, his work with The Black Sorrows, and the evolution of the RocKwiz Orchestra on television and on tour. He also shares stories about the fast turnarounds required for RocKwiz, the challenges, and the joy of collaborating with so many different musicians.We dig into the realities of the industry too: living hand-to-mouth even with 40 years’ experience, the lack of royalties for Australian session musicians, and why many players are advocating for change. Peter speaks openly about the work, the highs, the struggles, and the dedication it takes to sustain a career in music.A grounded, generous conversation with one of Australia’s most respected drummers.

In this episode, I’m joined by electric violinist, composer and improviser Xani Kolac.We talk through her journey from early Suzuki violin lessons to discovering new directions outside the classical world, including her move into improvisation, effects pedals, looping and extended techniques. Xani shares her experiences studying at the VCA, navigating jazz on the violin, and finding a creative path that made sense for her.We also discuss her collaborations — including violin–drum duo work — the role of physical training and wellbeing in sustaining a musical life, and some of the highlights and tougher moments along the way. Toward the end, we dive into the realities of the music industry, exporting work overseas, streaming, and how emerging technology like AI is intersecting with the arts.A grounded, open and enjoyable conversation with a thoughtful and inventive musician.For more about Xani visit her website: xanikolac.com

In this episode, I’m joined by drummer and music theatre musician Kieran Rafferty.We talk about his journey from learning piano, cello, and euphonium before finding his voice behind the drum kit, to winning Australia’s Best Up-and-Coming Drummer in 2013 and the professional work that he does now. Kieran shares his path from playing in teenage bands to performing on some of the biggest stages in the country — including supporting KISS at Rod Laver Arena and playing to 85,000 people at the MCG.We also discuss the demands of professional music theatre, performing in productions like The Rocky Horror Show, Sister Act, Wicked, and Hadestown, and what it’s like playing eight shows a week.A grounded and insightful look into the discipline, consistency, and craft behind life as a professional drummer.Instagram.com/kraff18Drum LessonsYouTube

In this episode, I’m joined by Invictus Quartet, a Melbourne-based string quartet made up of Rebecca Wang, Nyssa Sanguansri, Jin Tong Long, and Annika Kenner.We talk about how the group formed while studying at the Melbourne Conservatorium of Music, and how they’ve since built a professional career performing various concerts, collaborations, and private events. The quartet shares insights into their creative process, how they divide roles within the group, and the strong working relationship that underpins their success.We also discuss their recent work in the recording studio; collaborating with various recording artists, releasing a mashup of Joy to the World and The Marriage of Figaro Overture, and working on a string sample pack for producers.This chat was heaps of fun, with lots of laughs, learning and some moments of serious contemplation and vulnerability. A grounded and engaging conversation with four musicians shaping their own space in the modern music scene and their mission to expand how audiences experience string quartet music.You can listen to Invictus Quartet and find out more about them here:Spotify Amazon MusicYoutubeWebsiteInstagramFacebookYoutubeTiktok

In this episode, I’m joined by drummer, educator, and all-round powerhouse Taylor Douglas. An inspiring drum teacher and musician, Taylor has performed with acts including The Soulenikoes, Flynn Effect, Johnny Uppercut, Brooklyn’s Finest, House Too Crowded, Uptown Funk, and Caution:Thieves, as well as backing artists such as Emily Williams, Elle Skies, and Catholic Guilt. He’s also taken the stage at major televised events like the Cricket World Cup at the MCG and the NRL Finals at AAMI Park.We talk about his journey through Melbourne’s western suburbs into the world of professional drumming, his studies with various teachers and music institutions, and his passion for teaching. Taylor teaches at various schools, including Balwyn High School, where he taught podcast host Luke in his final VCE year. Taylor shares reflections on mentorship, musicianship, and the value of persistence, both behind the kit and in life.We finish with a chat about his more recent pursuit — Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu — where he has become a medal-winning competitor.A grounded, energetic, and insightful conversation with one of Melbourne’s most dedicated.instagram.com/thadouglife

In this episode, I’m joined by trumpeter Travis Woods — best known as the driving force behind the iconic brass band Horns of Leroy. Since completing his studies at Monash University in 2012, Travis has become a mainstay of the Melbourne music scene, performing at major festivals and venues around the country and the world.We talk about his beginnings with the trumpet, how Horns of Leroy started and has continued to thrive for over a decade, and what it takes to sustain a project built on energy, community, and live performance. Travis also shares stories from the road, including touring with Lauryn Hill, and reflections on his work with artists such as Guy Sebastian, Tex Perkins, Joe Camilleri & The Black Sorrows, Vika & Linda, Kate Ceberano, James Morrison, and more.A great chat with one of the hardest-working musicians in Australia.For more of Travis Woods visit:hornsofleroy.comsugarfootramblers.comyamaha.com/en/artists/t/travis_woodsinstagram.com/travinski_

In this episode, I’m joined by James Sherlock, one of Australia’s most respected jazz guitarists.We talk about his New Zealand roots, the transition from classical to jazz guitar, his early studies and mentors, and how those lessons continue to influence his approach today. James shares stories from his various collaborations, reflects on improvisation and artistic identity, and talks about performing with Paul Grabowsky and Emma Donovan for The Old Rugged Cross and regular gigs at Uptown Jazz Cafe with Ben Hanlon. Sherlock even shares one of his most memorable (and disastrous) gigs performing a live movie soundtrack with legendary film composer Howard Shore.As a bandleader, James has released six albums and worked with artists including Sheila Jordan, Cyrille Aimée, Jeff “Tain” Watts, John Riley, Leroy Jones, Rick Margitza, Martin Taylor, Paul Grabowsky, Megan Washington, Joe Camilleri, the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and the Australian Chamber Orchestra. His recordings feature collaborations with Ben Hanlon, Kristin Berardi, Sam Anning, Emma Gilmartin, and Jake Mason, and he recently recorded for François Tétaz’s film The Surfer, starring Nicolas Cage.James has toured extensively across more than twelve countries, performing at venues such as the Montreux Jazz Festival (opening for George Benson and Al Jarreau), Melbourne Recital Centre, A Trane in Berlin, and Jazz Dock in Prague. In 2021, he was featured soloist in the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra’s performance of Blood on the Floor, and his trio appeared in the ABC TV Jazz Series “The Pulse.”A thoughtful and grounded conversation with a mainstay of the Melbourne music scene — one whose work continues to shape the sound of Australian jazz.Checkout more from these links:https://www.instagram.com/james.marcus.sherlock/https://www.youtube.com/@jamessherlock1557/videoshttps://jamessherlock.bandcamp.com/album/the-verb-not-the-nounhttps://www.qpac.com.au/whats-on/2024/the-art-of-the-possible-conciertohttps://www.qpac.com.au/whats-on/2024/the-art-of-the-possible-the-old-rugged-crosshttps://sherlockhanlonduo.bandcamp.com/album/sherlock-hanlon-duohttps://www.abc.net.au/listen/jazz/featured-music/feature-albums/duo-james-sherlock-ben-hanlon/10007746

Making Music for Every Age – From Indie Folk to ARIA-Winning Kids TunesIn this episode, I chat with songwriter, musician, and one half of Teeny Tiny Stevies and The Little Stevies, Beth Stephen. We talk about her long-standing creative partnership with her sister Byll, how their indie-folk beginnings evolved into one of Australia’s most loved children’s music acts, and honest thoughts of a working musician.Beth shares insights into balancing creativity and commercial opportunity, why kids deserve music made just for them, and what it’s been like building a career that’s grown alongside their audience. We also mention their ARIA and AIR Award wins, collaborations with ABC Kids and Zoos Victoria, and what’s next as the band’s youngest fans start to grow up.A fun and thoughtful conversation with lots of laughs, stories from the road, and reflections on making meaningful music — no matter who’s listening.teenytinystevies.com

This week is a special one—our first-ever double guest episode! I’m joined by Lauren and Sheridan Harvey, the powerhouse pop-rock duo Lash 78. Known for their huge vocals, high-energy performances, and guitar-driven sound, these Melbourne-based sisters have built a loyal fan base through their electrifying live shows and infectious original music.Before we hit record, Lauren and Sheridan played me some new demo tracks, including “Heartbreak Lane”—a killer pop-rock track with driving beats, dynamic half-time shifts, and, of course, their amazing harmonies. We talk about their new music, the writing and recording process, and what it means to be an artist in today’s industry. They also share their excitement about gearing up to release new music and hit the stage again in the near future.Beyond the music, we get into what it’s like working with a sibling, the impact of viral moments and social media, and their journey from early musical influences to finding their sound and building their brand. We also chat about the creative process—singing, making videos, songwriting, and recording. Plus, they share the story behind Lash 78.This was an energetic, fun, and insightful chat with two incredibly talented artists—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by Thomas Waltrich — a drummer, Twitch streamer, educator, and content creator based in Naarm/Melbourne. With a background in jazz and contemporary music from Monash University, Thomas has played across a wide range of genres, from folk and post-rock to punk hardcore and free improvisation. His passion for drumming and creativity is at the heart of everything he does, whether it’s performing, recording, or sharing his journey online.But Thomas’s story isn’t just about music—he’s also a full-time school teacher and has spent time living overseas, immersing himself in different cultures, learning languages, and taking part in skill exchanges that have shaped his perspective on music and life. We talk about how those experiences influenced his creative approach, as well as the challenges of moving to a new city and rebuilding connections from scratch.We also dive into leading a music project, navigating social media as a musician (including his work in Instagram drumming and Twitch streaming), and balancing a full-time job with the pursuit of a music career. Thomas shares how his relationship with music has evolved over time—including stepping away and coming back—and what it means to create for passion rather than expectation.There’s a lot of trying and a lot of challenges, but also plenty of insight, creativity, and inspiration in this conversation. If you're a musician figuring out how to balance multiple pursuits, this one is for you!

This week, I’m joined by Nathan Liow — an award-winning jazz pianist and composer who has been a key figure in Melbourne’s jazz scene, performing regularly at venues like Jazzlab, Paris Cat, Birds Basement, and Uptown. He’s studied with some of the world’s best, including Fred Hersch, Vijay Iyer, Geri Allen, Andrea Keller, and Tony Gould, and his compositions have been featured in film soundtracks, installation works, and gallery spaces.Beyond his jazz career, Nathan is also the artist behind Life Is Better Blonde, a solo project that quickly gained critical acclaim. In 2015, it had a rapid rise, earning a J Award nomination, Triple J rotation, and a spot in BBC 1Xtra’s Top 5 Future R&B. With millions of streams, it was an unexpected success—but we also reflect on how quickly the moment passed and what that taught him about the music industry, expectations, and making music for yourself.We also discuss keeping an audio journal, his creative process, and balancing live band energy vs. studio production. And fair warning—I was crazy tired from a uni exam when we recorded this, so the chat gets a little all over the shop at times, but it made for an authentic and fun conversation.This was an awesome chat—don’t miss it!Here's some of the links we mentioned - Mine (Directed by Natalie James) https://youtu.be/FhnYVKeUwfoFires (Directed by Natalie James) https://youtu.be/i8KyhFRQDpQFollow Me (Directed by Natalie James) https://youtu.be/l0J11zbknUM Jazz/Improv album with Paris Favilla Operasphere https://open.spotify.com/album/7kIJKo81xDcAGCd92mKP0F?si=6WyCTvHHQBOnFIaC5gvcBQWebsite www.nathanliow.com AND www.lifeisbetterblonde.comInstagram www.instagram.com/nathanliowpiano AND https://www.instagram.com/libblonde/

This week, I’m joined by Kat Greta — a singer-songwriter, percussionist, and rising artist in the Pop and Indie scenes. Known for her catchy melodies, live looping, and dynamic percussion work, Kat blends retro influences with a fresh, modern energy, crafting music that is both deeply personal and widely resonant.We talk about her musical journey—from starting as a performer to stepping into the world of songwriting and production. A key part of that evolution has been her collaboration with acclaimed producer Lindsay Gravina (Adalita, Eskimo Joe, The Living End), who has been instrumental in helping her refine her sound. Kat shares how she developed a strong musical relationship with Lindsay, gaining insight into the production process, co-producing her own music, and receiving invaluable advice that has shaped her artistry.We also discuss the challenges of building an original music career at a stage where many artists have already been established—navigating the music scene as an independent artist, building confidence as a songwriter and producer, and pushing forward in an industry that often focuses on younger artists. On top of that, Kat shares her experience in the Soundhive competition, being chosen by industry veteran Tim Dalton, and how she’s making space for herself in the music world on her own terms.This was an insightful and inspiring chat with an artist who is embracing her creative path and making music that truly connects—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by the incredibly talented JIM ALXNDR—a producer, artist, and multi-instrumentalist whose journey through music has taken him across the world. From growing up in a small town in the UK to moving to Australia, studying jazz and contemporary music at VCA, and then heading to Berklee and LA to further develop his craft, Jim’s story is one of exploration, creativity, and constant evolution.We dive into his musical journey—starting with saxophone at school, being thrown into gigs at a young age, developing a passion for jazz, and transitioning into production and songwriting. Now based back in Australia, Jim continues to work across the US, UK, and Europe, collaborating with a range of artists. We talk about the differences in music education between the US and Melbourne, his approach to studio production vs. live performance, and the creative process behind his work.We also discuss his collaborations, including producing "Slave" with Angie McMahon, which has amassed over 600K streams on Spotify. And, of course, we chat about his latest project, The Light EP, and his EP launch at Northcote Social Club.This was an enjoyable, insightful, and sometimes deep conversation—filled with laughs about music school, reflections on purpose and creativity, and even some thoughts on tattoos and sun breaks. Jim’s passion for music is infectious—don’t miss this one!

This week, I’m joined by Michaela Jayde — a powerhouse Soul/R&B artist, dynamic performer, and an incredible vocalist who has been a key figure in Melbourne’s music scene for over a decade. With a voice that effortlessly blends classic soul with modern R&B, Michaela has worked with artists like Tones & I, Stan Walker, Jerome Farah, Kylie Auldist, Ben Abraham, Thndo, WILSN, and more.In this episode, we dive into her purpose and intention with music—what drives her, the deep connection she has to singing, and how she balances artistry with the demands of the industry. We talk about her experience on a singing competition TV show, the positive relationships and opportunities that came from it, but also the challenges and tensions she felt between music as an expression and music as a competition.Michaela shares the story behind posting a cover online and then being invited to sing live with Teddy Swims, as well as her journey growing up in a musical family, studying music, and drawing inspiration from Erykah Badu, Ella Fitzgerald, Aretha Franklin, and Donny Hathaway.We also discuss her passion for vocal technique and her deep knowledge of backing vocals—nerding out on harmonies and the craft of supporting other artists. And, on top of all this, we talk about motherhood, tribute shows, and releasing her own original music.Michaela is such a warm, inspiring presence—her strength, talent, and intention shine through in everything she does. This was a brilliant conversation—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by Brayden Becher — a powerhouse drummer deeply embedded in Melbourne’s metal scene, particularly doom metal. Brayden doesn’t just play in one or two bands—he’s currently drumming for six different projects, including Ghost Smoker, Jack Harlon & The Dead Crows, Holy Serpent, KVLL, Aglobrutal, and Ahr Beka.We dive into what it’s like balancing that many projects, his experience growing up with music—starting drums at age four but being banned from playing during high school—and the wild story of auditioning for a band. Along the way, we explore the Melbourne metal scene, the unique characteristics of doom metal, and some of life’s big questions.We also talk about the importance of friends and family and the role they play in shaping a musician’s path. This was a really enjoyable chat, full of insight into a world of music I knew little about—don’t miss it!For more visit aredrummersmusicians.com

This week, I’m joined by the brilliant James Davies — drummer for Black Jesus Experience and a seasoned professional in the music theatre world. Originally from Northern Victoria, James moved to Melbourne to study at Box Hill Institute, where he trained under some of the best, including Dave Beck, Tony Floyd, and Robi Parolin. Since then, he’s built a career that spans jazz, funk, drum & bass, Ethiopian rhythms, and theatre drumming, performing on productions like Groundhog Day.We start this chat a little differently—James is not only an amazing musician but also a dedicated listener of the podcast! We talk about his thoughts on how the show evolved over its first 30 episodes, and I share some of my own reflections on its direction, and what I’m trying to achieve with it. If you want to jump straight into James’ story, skip the first 10 minutes!From touring China with Black Jesus Experience to blending traditional Ethiopian music with contemporary grooves, to life as a music theatre drummer, this conversation covers a huge range of topics. James is an insightful, versatile musician with a fascinating journey—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by the absolute legend Jess Ellwood — a drummer, guitarist, and all-around great musician who has built a career touring and recording with some of Australia’s finest artists.We talk a lot about tour life—the highs, the challenges, and what it takes to be a good hang on the road. Jess plays drums for Alex Lahey and guitar for Angie McMahon, and we dive into what it’s like shifting between roles, playing different instruments in different bands, and making the leap to full-time music.Beyond performing, we chat about their time with The Sweethearts, their experience as a teacher, and the importance of long-term friendships with musicians—how growing together in the scene has shaped their career. This was a lovely, insightful, and inspiring conversation—don’t miss it!For more visit aredrummersmusicans.com

This week, I’m joined by the incredible Selene Messinis — also known as SOLUNE — a multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, composer, and educator whose career spans genres from jazz and R&B to metal and circus performance. Based in Naarm/Melbourne, Selene has worked with artists including thndo, Nikodimos, Bumpy, NO ZU, Gordon Koang, Parvyn, Harper Bloom, Don Glori, Teether, and RAMEN, while also developing her own unique artistic voice.In this episode, we discuss their journey with music, including the impact of the Blackburn High music program, their early years playing saxophone and piano, and how those foundations shaped their career. We dive into their experience writing and performing music for the circus, their work as an improvising musician, and their thoughts on the experience of women in the music industry.Selene also shares their love of dressing in bright-colored clothes as an expression of personal freedom, as well as an exciting new project—working on their metal album! This was such a dynamic and inspiring conversation—don’t miss it.For more visit aredrummersmusicians.com

This week, I’m joined by Ellis — a drummer, multi-instrumentalist, and educator who has carved out a dynamic career in the Australian music scene. Best known as the drummer for GUSH (formerly Paper Tapir), Ellis has been playing alongside Louis Smith and Luci Floyd for the past decade, with Domenic Evans recently joining the band.In this episode, we explore their journey through music—from growing up in a musical household to learning piano and drums, studying at VCASS, and being mentored by jazz legend Graeme Morgan. We also talk about their experiences in both jazz and pop-rock, forming GUSH, and working with other artists, including Garage Sale and Grace Robinson.Beyond performing and recording, Ellis shares insights into their teaching philosophy, thoughts on the music industry, and how they approach finding balance between creativity, work, and life. And for those looking for some drumming inspiration, Ellis recommends checking out Steve Reich’s 1987 album Drumming.This was an insightful and engaging conversation—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by the extraordinary Nat Bartsch — a twice ARIA-nominated pianist, composer, producer, and advocate whose music blends neoclassical composition with jazz harmony, improvisation, and ethereal ambient effects. At the time of recording in 2024, Nat was the Artist in Residence at the Melbourne Recital Centre and was preparing for the release of her stunning album, Forever Changed.I was lucky enough to get an early listen to Forever Changed before this conversation, and it’s absolutely beautiful. Since then, friends and I attended the album launch, and it was such a special experience. In this episode, we discuss the process behind making the album, its deeply personal themes, and how it was shaped by surround sound and Atmos mixing.Nat also opens up about being a neurodivergent artist—reflecting on her autism and ADHD diagnoses and how they’ve influenced her creative process, career, and advocacy work. She shares how she’s been creating inclusive spaces, including neurodiverse-friendly listening experiences at the Recital Centre.Beyond her work as a solo artist, we discuss her decision to self-manage, launch her own label (Amica Records), and develop Amica Familia, a mentorship program for emerging artists. From the challenges of being an independent musician to the evolving landscape of recorded music, this conversation is packed with insight, creativity, and inspiration—don’t miss it!For more visit aredrummersmusicians.com

Strap in—this is a long one! This week, I’m joined by Gerry Pantazis, one of Australia’s most in-demand drummers, known for his incredible versatility across fusion, pop, session work, theatre, and TV performances. With a career spanning decades, Gerry has played with legends like Larry Carlton, Richard Marx, Tommy Emmanuel, Tina Arena, and The Seekers, as well as holding the drum chair for Carols by Candlelight for nearly 20 years.We dive into a huge range of topics, from his work with the fusion powerhouse Damage (with Phil Turcio, Brett Garsed, and Craig Newman), to the evolution of the music scene, music relationships, and the balance of longevity and change as a professional musician. Gerry shares what it’s like performing on Carols by Candlelight at Sidney Myer Music Bowl, the pressure of playing live on national TV, and his thoughts on notation—specifically, the pet peeves that make charts a nightmare to read as a drummer.We wrapped up the podcast after an hour… and then Gerry asked to keep going. Suddenly, another two and a half hours passed, packed with even more stories, insights, and laughs. If you’re a hardcore Gerry fan, the second half is a deep dive into everything from gear (DW Electric Drums!) to industry wisdom.This was an epic conversation—enjoy the first hour, or stay for the full 3.5 hours of drumming gold!

This week, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Danny Fischer — one of the most in-demand jazz drummers and educators in Australia. Danny spent a decade living and working in New York, playing with some of the world’s best musicians and building an incredible wealth of experience. He shared some brutally honest and often hilarious stories about what it was really like to be a jazz drummer in the world’s most competitive scene.We also talked about his yoga practice and how it’s influenced both his drumming and the very practical challenge of carrying drums around New York. He opened up about the struggles and successes of his time overseas, what led him to move back to Melbourne, and how he brings a highly personalized approach to teaching—something I can personally vouch for, as he’s the best drum teacher I’ve ever had (and I’ve had some of the best!).This chat was full of wisdom, humor, and insight into the reality of being a jazz musician. Don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by Jack Foy — a songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and music teacher based in Melbourne/Naarm. Jack currently plays, writes, and records with Hobsons Bay Coast Guard, Great Falls, Sun Bazel, Smooth Brains, and his own project, Lafferty Daniel.We chat about his journey through music—learning guitar, studying jazz drumming at Monash, and how he’s juggled different instruments and projects over the years. Jack has also worked with various artists, including Hallie, Eileen Grace, Seamus McCorry, Suzi, and Marigolden, bringing his versatility to a range of musical settings.Along the way, we talk about his paddle-pop socks, what it’s like being a left-handed drummer, playing bass with Great Falls, and the story behind the name Lafferty Daniel. This was a great conversation with an artist who’s explored so many sides of music—don’t miss it!

This week, I had a fun and insightful chat with Stilla — a rising pop artist from Naarm/Melbourne, known for her funky, relatable anthems and razor-sharp pop instincts. With influences like Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter, and Dua Lipa, Stilla blends pop, funk, R&B, and dance to create a fresh and unapologetically fun sound.We talked about what it takes to build a career as an independent artist—her drive, mindset, and approach to content creation. Stilla also shared her thoughts on balancing creativity with the business side of music, staying authentic in an ever-changing industry, and how she pushes herself to level up with each new release.Since recording this episode, Stilla has released her debut EP STILLAVERSE and put on a massive launch show at Northcote Social Club, marking a huge milestone in her career. Her rise in the pop world is only just beginning, and I can’t wait for you to hear this conversation!

This week, I’m joined by the incredible Raleigh Williams — a powerhouse vocalist, songwriter, and artistic producer with a deep and versatile career across jazz, soul, pop, world music, and more. Raleigh has led her own French jazz project La Nuit Blanche, headlined her own shows, performed with the ARIA Award-winning Cookin’ on 3 Burners, and was a vocalist with the rock-Americana-blues supergroup FOOLS. She’s also an in-demand session singer and artistic producer, curating and shaping Melbourne’s live music scene.In this episode, we talk about the realities of being a working musician—the struggles, the passion, and the craft of music as a trade. We also dive into the technical side of singing, treating the voice as an instrument, and Raleigh’s personal experience with voice surgery. Her insights into the industry, artistic resilience, and musical adaptability make this a fascinating and inspiring conversation.This one is packed with wisdom, honesty, and of course, plenty of laughs—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by the legendary Kylie Auldist—singer, songwriter, and one of Australia’s most respected voices in funk, soul, and disco. You might know her as the powerhouse vocalist of The Bamboos, Cookin’ on 3 Burners, or from her incredible solo work. And of course, her voice took This Girl (Kungs vs Cookin’ on 3 Burners) to global chart domination, with over a billion streams and international acclaim.This chat was an absolute blast—Kylie made me laugh so much! We dive into her journey through the music industry, her time playing in bars and bands, the realities of music rights and royalties, and what it means to be a headliner. We also talk about writing partnerships, longevity in the music scene, and how it feels to be considered ‘old’ in an industry that often prioritizes youth.Kylie is as down-to-earth as she is talented, and this conversation is packed with insight, honesty, and plenty of fun. Don’t miss it!

This week, I had the pleasure of recording in Ben Edgar’s studio, overlooking the lush green surroundings of Belgrave. Ben is an incredibly talented guitarist, producer, and engineer with a fascinating approach to music-making—one that embraces challenges, limitations, and the unexpected creativity they bring.We dive into his collection of guitars and related instruments, discussing how different tools shape his sound and push his playing in new directions. Naturally, we get into some serious sound nerd territory—talking pedals, recording techniques, and the nuances of capturing the right tone.Beyond the gear talk, Ben shares stories from his experiences recording and touring the world with Gotye and Angus & Julia Stone, working with Dope Lemon, and engineering the latest record for The Cat Empire.This episode is full of great insights, music wisdom, and good vibes—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by Myles Mumford — a producer, engineer, composer, and musician who has been shaping the Melbourne music scene for over two decades. Myles has been making music and records since the late '90s, starting with trombone and composition before moving to Melbourne in 2002 to study at the VCA, where he later ran the recording studio. Since then, he has built an incredible career spanning record production, film sound, theatre sound design, location recording, concert production, and more.Myles is known for his musical and collaborative approach to recording, creating a sense of space and presence that has made his work stand out. His productions have earned critical acclaim, including ARIA nominations, Bell Awards, Music Victoria Awards, a Green Room Award, and APRA awards. In 2014, he founded Rolling Stock Recording Rooms in Collingwood, which has become a hub for artists across genres, fostering community-driven music-making in Melbourne’s vibrant music scene.Beyond the studio, Myles has worked internationally, spending a year in Swaziland through Australian Volunteers International, producing radio shows, building a recording studio, and helping develop local artists and content that dominated the Swazi Top 20 for over a year.In this episode, we explore his journey through music, the philosophy behind making records, the balance of art and commerce in the music industry, and the importance of creative spaces like Rolling Stock. We also talk about his work as a composer, his thoughts on gatekeeping in the music industry, and his passion for making good music, regardless of genre.This was an inspiring and deep conversation—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by one of Australia’s great bass players—Lucas Taranto. With a massive resume of recording and touring work, Lucas has played some of the world’s most iconic venues and stages.Of course, I couldn’t resist asking about his time with Gotye during the Somebody That I Used to Know era, and Lucas generously shared some incredible stories from that wild period of global success. But his career didn’t start or stop there—far from it.We chat about how he first picked up the bass, how he established himself in the industry, working with different bandleaders, life as a working musician, and yes, even a bit of gear talk. Lucas is not only a phenomenal player but also an incredibly humble and thoughtful musician, and I’m grateful to have had him on the show.(Disclaimer: Way too many nice things were said about me—Luke, the host—by Lucas in this episode. Clearly, he’s a class act.)aredrummmersmusicians.com

This week, I had the absolute privilege of sitting down with virtuoso drummer and percussionist David Jones — one of Australia’s greatest musicians. Arriving with a case full of special instruments (some of which made their way into our conversation), David brought not just his incredible skill, but also deep wisdom, reflection, and generosity of spirit.We discussed his early beginnings with the bongos, the power of mentorship, spiritual practice and meditation, the art of creating sound, recording, and so much more. Over 90 minutes, we explored a range of topics—musical, philosophical, and personal—with plenty of laughter along the way.One of the most unexpected moments was David sharing how, despite his legendary status, he once felt a sense of inferiority due to his lack of harmonic knowledge when bringing his compositions to other musicians. It was a fascinating and deeply human insight into how even the most accomplished artists face insecurities—and, in many ways, it tied right back into the very question this podcast asks.This was a truly special conversation—don’t miss it!

This week, we dive into the world of DJing and turntablism with the talented DJ Mizhap! After spending 10 years performing in Perth, Mizhap recently made the move to Melbourne, and we talk about everything from getting started on the decks to establishing herself in a new city, learning new skills, and connecting with the local music community.Mizhap is a skilled artist who’s always looking to grow, and she shared her inspirations, both new and old, in the turntablist scene. While I’ve been around DJs before, turntablism is a whole different world, and Mizhap was generous in explaining some of the key techniques and terminology behind it. I learned a lot about the depth of this skillset and the artistry involved in this unique form of music-making.We also discuss the differences between DJing in clubs versus other live settings where artistry and performance take center stage. This was such a fun chat, and I left feeling inspired to explore more about Mizhap’s work and the turntablism scene in general.

This week, I’m joined by the talented guitarist Beth Feik—inner-city local, indie punk rocker, and founding member of The Vovos. Rolling up on her bike in a corduroy jacket, Beth brought some serious cool energy to this chat as we dove into the Melbourne punk scene, her love for music, and the importance of community.We talk about her journey with the guitar, her pivotal experience at Girls Rock! Australia, and how that led to forming The Vovos alongside Ada Duffy, Mika James, Ruby Ayliffe, and Lu Galente. Beth shares stories about mentorship, industry experiences, and what it was like performing at Sidney Myer Music Bowl at just 17 years old to a crowd of 4,000 people.This episode is all about passion, punk, and the power of making music with your friends—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by the laid-back and legendary Gormie — audio engineer, producer, and bass player. Rocking some seriously cool New Balance sneakers and blue-and-green socks, Gormie brought a great vibe to this conversation as we dived into his journey in music, recording concepts, and the art of getting a great sound.We talked about his studio setups, working as an engineer and producer, and his experiences touring and recording with Angie McMahon. What I didn’t expect? A whole lot of Bruce Springsteen chat (which I did not mind one bit) and a little less tour talk than I anticipated, given that Gormie had just returned from a big run on the road. But what we did get was an authentic, thoughtful conversation about music, creativity, and life as an artist in Melbourne.The second half of the episode takes a deeper turn—we open up about struggles with alcoholism, mental health, insecurities, anxiety, and how these challenges impact our lives and music. We also touch on my own experience with Long Covid. It’s an honest and vulnerable chat that I really appreciated, and I’m grateful to Gormie for his generosity, encouragement, and wisdom.

This week, I’m joined by Ruby Ester Mae — neo-classical, EDM, and ambient clarinetist, better known as Clariloops. Ruby’s journey is a fascinating one, from growing up on a steady diet of Steely Dan to wanting to be a drummer, only to end up falling in love with classical clarinet. She went on to complete a Bachelor of Music with Honours at Monash University, studying under David Griffith, before carving out her own unique space in the music world.At the time of recording, her original music project had over 37,000 monthly listeners—a testament to her distinct sound and artistic vision. We talk about the evolution of Clariloops, taking a break from music after having a baby, and the excitement of getting back into performing, recording, and exploring new creative ideas. Plus, we touch on her experience playing music for the defence force.It’s a deep, insightful, and inspiring chat—don’t miss it!

This week, I’m joined by the powerhouse that is Nitida Atkinson — singer, songwriter, performer, session musician, and multi-instrumentalist. We had a blast talking about her band Don’t Thank Me, Spank Me, their self-titled debut album, and the sold-out launch show at The Tote.Nitida also shared insights into her creative process, balancing band life with solo projects and session work—including her incredible performance with Mark Seymour at the 2023 AFL Grand Final Halftime Show. We got into her passion for music, the fun of dressing up for performances, and plenty more, with lots of laughs along the way.If you love rock, soul, or just great music stories, you’ll enjoy this one!For more, visit aredrummersmusicians.com

This week, I’m joined by a true Brunswick local and staple of the Melbourne jazz scene—drummer Ronny Ferella. Arriving on his bike like the legend he is, Ronny shared his journey with the drums, from his early inspirations to the teachers who shaped him, his family heritage, and the pure joy of playing music after putting in the hard work to learn it.We also dive into his new community record label, its unique approach to releasing music, and the challenges and realities of making a living as a musician. It was a fantastic conversation filled with insight, passion, and a few laughs. Plus, Ronny even gifted us two of his CD albums—what a guy.(P.S. If you need a drummer for a blues gig, call Ronny.)

This week, I’m joined by the incredibly talented Jude Perl — singer, songwriter, comedian, and all-around creative force. Jude has built a reputation for her razor-sharp wit, insanely clever songwriting, and brutally honest yet hilarious observations about life. At the time of recording, she had just wrapped up a successful run of Share House: The Musical, an original production showcasing her unique blend of music and comedy.In this episode, we dive into her journey from jazz school to musical comedy, how she crafts her songs and jokes, and the creative process behind her work. We also talk about the long road of bringing projects to life, the recent success of Share House, and what’s next for this multi-talented artist.Whether you're a musician, comedian, or just love a good laugh, this one’s packed with insight, humor, and plenty of inspiration.

This week, I’m joined by the incredible Yael Zamir, a flutist and composer making waves in Melbourne’s jazz scene. Yael is one of the few musicians in Australia specializing in jazz and Brazilian flute, bringing a fresh and expressive voice to the instrument.We talk about her journey from classical training to jazz improvisation, the role of music theory and solfège in her playing, and what drew her to the rhythms and melodies of Brazilian music. Yael shares insights into her experiences studying with renowned teachers, her time at The Sir Zelman Cowen School of Music, and how she approaches composition and performance.From music theatre beginnings to playing with Panorama Brasil and beyond, this conversation is full of inspiring moments about finding your voice as a musician.

This week, I’m joined by Toby Peterson-Stewart, an incredibly humble yet immensely talented bass player from Melbourne, Australia. Toby is one of two bass players in the instrumental prog/metal band, The Omnific, a group known for their innovative and impressive approach to music.Toby shares his journey from the hills of Mt Dandenong to performing on the global stage, including his experiences touring the world, attending NAMM, and honing his craft as a bass virtuoso. We discuss the dedication it takes to establish oneself in the music scene, his pre-gig rituals, and the unique dynamic of being one-half of a dual-bass band.Beyond music, Toby reflects on his creative process, his desire to start a podcast, and his passion for making music that’s honest and true to the moment.Join us for an inspiring and insightful conversation with a musician who’s redefining what’s possible on the bass.For more info and links to the guest's work, visit our website: ⁠aredrummersmusicians.com⁠

This week on the podcast, we’re joined by Evan Englezos, a dynamic leader in both music and digital innovation. As the founder and musical director of Live in the Saddle, Evan has fostered a collaborative community project that has brought together over 140 musicians across 16 shows since 2011, recreating studio albums live and cultivating a generous and inclusive musical environment.Evan’s passion for building connections extends beyond music. Through his work with Digital Team Coach, he helps organizations navigate digital transformation with training, strategy, and development. He’s also the host of Tomorrow Pod, where he explores grassroots storytelling and creative processes to build a better tomorrow.In this episode, we discuss Evan’s journey from performing in rock bands and musical theatre to leading church music groups and disability support initiatives. We also dive into his experience balancing creativity, community, and innovation in both the musical and digital spaces.Join us as we explore Evan’s inspiring dedication to music, collaboration, and connection!For more info and links to the guest's work, visit our website: ⁠aredrummersmusicians.com⁠

This week, we’re joined by Kathleen Halloran, a brilliant guitarist whose talent and versatility have made her one of Australia’s in-demand musicians. As the guitarist for Australian music icon Kate Ceberano, Kathleen has toured the country, sharing stages with some of the biggest names in the industry. Beyond that, she has performed with Katie Noonan, Felix Riebl, Iva Davies, and many more, leaving her mark on countless recordings, festival stages, and major theatre productions.Kathleen shares stories about her musical journey, from studying jazz performance at the VCA to carving out her own path as a session musician and bandleader. We explore her work with Kate Ceberano, her experiences at events like the Adelaide Guitar Festival and Melbourne Guitar Show, and her upcoming debut album—a project showcasing her artistry as a vocalist, songwriter, and guitarist.Join us for an inspiring conversation with a rising star in the Australian music scene as Kathleen shares her excitement for the future, insights into the creative process, and passion for making music.For more info and links to the guest's work, visit our website: ⁠aredrummersmusicians.com⁠

This week’s guest is multi-genre guitarist, producer, and mixer, Louis Smith. Louis shares insights from his diverse musical journey, from mastering classical guitar to creating ambient soundscapes and playing in heavy and shoegaze bands. We discuss his academic work in integrating contemporary guitar styles into classical music, his experiences in bands Fuzz Meadows and Silurian, and his current projects, including GUSH, Resenter, and Lilivm.We also explore Louis’s thoughts on identity, philosophy, art, and community, all framed by his personal perspectives and deep passion for music. The conversation kicks off with a chat about plugins (thanks to @officialjustinsheriff for free plugin recommendations) and flows into an engaging discussion about the many types of music Louis listens to, plays, and draws inspiration from.Join us for a journey through Louis’s rich and varied musical world!For more info and links to the guest's work, visit our website: ⁠aredrummersmusicians.com⁠

This week on the podcast we are speaking with another of Australia’s greatest bass players, Owen Downie. Owen has a long list of artists he has performed and recorded with and he has been a member of many great bands over the years, but the focus of his musical pursuits being about making great music rather than any pursuit of fame or acclaim was a great point made throughout this conversation. Owen made me laugh a lot, shared some great stories about his musical beginnings and collaborations, and touched on the encouragement of his pursuits (but not always his taste) in music. We even touch on the legendary story of Owen being musical director of Cool Boys and the Front Man, the touring band of legends Hamish and Andy!A very humble bass player and session musician, a massive inspiration of mine and, second only to my partner Luci, my favourite bass player in Australia.Owen has performed with some of Australia’s leading artists such as Guy Sebastian, Jessica Mauboy, The Wiggles, Vance Joy, Shannon Noll, Ricki-Lee, Pez, Bill Chambers, Simon Philips, The Meltdown, Zoophyte, and The Veronicas. He has also played alongside international jazz luminaries like George Garzone and John Blackwell Jr., and K-Pop superstar Kim Tae-woo from G.O.D. In addition to his extensive live performance and recording credentials, Owen is passionate about music education and creating positive spaces for music-making. He has 15 years of experience as a guitar and bass teacher, has established and grown various music programs in Victorian schools, and recently created a music program for NDIS clients in regional Victoria. Owen is the leader of the bi-monthly Yarra Banks Open Jam Session, a night dedicated to encouraging people of all ages and skill levels to develop their improvisation skills and ensemble playing. It is a long-standing event, maintaining a supportive and inclusive culture appreciated by professionals, hobbyists, and students alike.These days, Owen spends most of his time in Melbourne performing, writing, teaching, and trying to learn as many new instruments as possible. You’ll often see him playing around town at all manner of venues from jazz clubs to folk festivals, on many different instruments, and having the time of his life.Join us as we discuss Owen’s passion for music, explore his current bands like Doc Halibut, The Higgs, and Andy McGarvie, and delve into his various musical experiences over the years - including being the musical director for the tours of podcasting legends Hamish and Andy’s band, Cool Boys and the Front Man.For more info and links to the guest's work, visit our website: ⁠aredrummersmusicians.com⁠