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Around The Way Curls
by Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayers
Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.
Episodes
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Ep 513. Pregnant, No Plan, and Betting on Herself ft Rakia Reynolds
This week, Shanti is flying solo, but she brought company, and fellow Sag Rakia Reynolds has stories to tell. The Skai Blue Media founder joins us to talk about quitting her job while pregnant with no plan, building a business from the ground up, and almost turning down Serena Williams because…
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Ep 512. Nolan Wells, The Cornell 57, & Nikole Hannah-Jones
In this week’s episode, we catch up on the latest developments in the Nolan Wells case and unpack the questions that remain. We also discuss the rape allegations involving the Cornell 7 and the broader conversations the case raises around power, accountability, and whose stories are believed.…
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Ep 511. The Tension of Wanting Two Opposing Things
In this episode, Shanti finds reprieve from life's demands by remembering the life and legacy of Maya Angelou. We flow freely in this episode as we answer callers' questions about when to leave a relationship and wrestle with the tension of wanting two opposing things at the same time. Join us......
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Ep 510. Ed Sheeran Exposed, Lindsay Clancy Juror Doxed, Jasmine Crockett + Chris Brown
This week, Shanti recovers from an argument while Antoinette prepares for Virgo season. Together, we discuss the recent doxxing of a juror in the Lindsay Clancy case, the unfolding Ed Sheeran and Macklemore tour controversy, and Jasmine Crockett choosing Chris Brown over her civic duty. Join…
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Ep 509. Beyonce's Box, Fat Joe's Blackness + BiBi's BullSh*t
In this week's episode, we discuss Beyoncé's most recent limited-edition "B'Day"20th anniversary album release, and Fat Joe's Black identity crisis. For politics, we discuss A. I apocalypse and Netanyahu's alleged betrayal. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email:...
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Ep 508. We're Back & We Apologize
We’re back from break! This week, we catch up on life, our return to Spotify, and get into everything we missed while we were away. In politics, we unpack the Democratic Party’s condemnation of the Democratic Socialists of America while seemingly turning a blind eye to the recent disrespect...
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Reprise: Ep 467. Cardi B & Respectability Politics
For this episode, Shanti opens the show solo, responding to listener voicemails about culture gatekeeping and fashion. For our main topic, Antoinette returns, and we unpack how respectability politics shape our views of Cardi B—and what that says about us. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215)...
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Reprise: Ep 435. So Good, I Might Self Sabotage.
In this episode, Shanti shares her recent relationship experience and the unconscious patterns of self-sabotage that can arise when things feel too good to be true. Together, we discuss the fear of embracing goodness in life and how self-worth is the foundation for not only inviting but also...
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Reprise Ep 401. Navigating Love With A Child
In this episode, Shanti talks about the recent girl's trip in ATL and her growing love for Bad Bunny while Antoinette considers how she will emotionally manage the next four years with Trump as President. After answering caller voicemails, we dive into our main topic. Shanti shares the…
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Ep 507. Don't Get Fat, Filter Faces and Partner Pressures
In this episode, we respond to brilliance from the interwebs. We discuss the added preoccupation of losing weight to a life already full of responsibilities, and the growing craze of everyone looking the same through plastic surgery and the psychosis of "filter faces", and finally, we attempt to...
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Ep 506: Nolan Wells Misinformation, Iran on the Offense, A New Black Panther + Shanti Sports
In this week's episode, Antoinette returns from a week of travel and fun - sick while Shanti considers joining an improv class. Together, we discuss the recent updates and legal constraints of the Nolan Wells case, and Iran on the offensive. For pop culture, LeBron James comes to Philly, and do…
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Ep 505. Like-ability Politics: Amanda Seales, Mamdani + Trump Ft Marquise Davon
In this week's episode, Antoinette is sick, so Shant is joined by Marquise Davon. Together, we discuss what teenagers need from their parents most in this modern age, and for politics, we discuss the recent developments between Iran and the US, and Mamdani's address to the ICC. For pop culture…
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Ep 504. Breakups Aren't a Failure, I'm Grateful
In this week’s episode, Shanti enters the teenage version of the “terrible twos,” while Antoinette discovers that a fully booked summer. Oddly enough, we agree with J.Lo’s recent take on relationships, debate Young Miami’s lyrics and India.Arie’s thoughts on mainstream music, and ask whether the...
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Ep 503. Dems Do It Again, Justice for Nolan Wells + Surviving Jay Z Extra Innings
In this week's episode, we recount our time at the exhaustingly epic time at Jay's final Yankee Stadium performance, "Extra Innings". For politics, we discuss the democrats fumbling yet again to secure a solid candidate for a very important election in Maine's coming midterm elections, as well as...
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Ep 502. It’s America’s Birthday, So Let’s Revisit Palestine
We are taking a little break this week! Enjoy a little Holiday banter and revisit one of our most popular and important episodes. Contact Around The Way Curls: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: [email protected] Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls See Privacy Policy at...
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Ep 501. Oprah Can't Be Trusted, Whitney, Clive + Mamdani
This week, Shanti and Antoinette catch up on hard conversations, Facebook Marketplace addiction, protein goals and what qualifies as kinky. For politics, Antoinette breaks down Zohran Mamdani’s growing influence in New York and what recent progressive wins could mean for the Democratic...
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Ep 500. The Art of the (Trash) Deal ft. Trump & Jay- Z + Sprinkles Slavery & Subservience ft. David Oyelowo
This week, we celebrate the 500th episode of Around the Way Curls! Together, we reflect on the work we’ve done, the community we’ve built, and the journey that brought us here. In politics, we discuss Trump’s ghetto White House celebration and the U.S.–Iran peace deal. In pop culture, we unpack...
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Ep 499. Getting On this Girl's Nerves: Crash Out Edition
Shanti enters her rock phase as she crushes on a rising punk rock star, while Antoinette defends this new generation of “aunties and uncles.” Together, we crash out over Keke Palmer and the Hot Ones white man, question whether Young M.A misrepresents the queer community, debate the Knicks vs. the...
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Ep 498. The Roots Remember Even When The Trees Pretend
In this week's episode, Shanti recognizes her business's growth while Antoinette sees her breasts with new eyes. Together, we discuss Trump cussing out Netanyahu, and the recent verdict of the Rick Chow case that left a 14-year-old boy murdered. For pop culture, we dive into Jay Z's historic...
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Ep 497. The Effects of Being Raised in a Low-Effort Family
What happens when the people who are supposed to show up for you only do the bare minimum? In this episode, we explore the lasting impact of growing up in a low-effort family, where emotional support is scarce, communication is inconsistent, and relationships feel transactional rather than...
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Ep 496. The Black Vote + Adams Apples Are Under Attack
In this week's episode, Antoinette returns to the pod. She shares her recent surgery experience while Shanti prepares for festival season. Together, we discuss Trump's version of reparations as well as the recent blow to America's Voting RIght's Act from the Supreme Court. We lament the loss of...
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495. What’s a Title Worth to Cheyenne Bryant, Jay Shetty, + Kevin Hart? Ft. Work Bae Pod
This week, the Workbae Pod crew joins Shanti as guest hosts. Together, we get into dating, intimacy, guilt, and what it means to feel “content” in a relationship. Then we spiral into global politics, and the rise of public “experts” like Cheyenne Bryant and Jay Shetty. And following Kevin Hart's...
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Ep 494. How to Build It Boldly with Dr. Kimberly McGlonn
This week, Shanti sits down with Dr. Kimberly McGlonn, award-winning social entrepreneur, author, speaker, and founder of Grant Blvd, Blk Ivy Thrift, and author of the book, Build It Boldly. Together, we explore what it means to lead with courage in a world that often rewards extraction, scale…
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Ep 493. A Kiki: Noah Lyles, Adult jealousy, and Day Drinking
This week, the girls sit down for an unscripted kiki. Antoinette recounts a day-drinking experience that took a turn, while Shanti confesses to a fit of jealousy that haunted her for days. Together, they recap an Aries birthday party for the books, unpack the internet’s response to Noah Lyles’...
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Ep 492. Emma Grede, Tucker Carlson, Dave Chapelle, Friend of Foe?
In this week’s episode, we unpack the “good intentions” of a few public figures raising eyebrows in politics and pop culture. We ask whether we trust business mogul Emma Grede as she shares unpopular opinions on work culture and motherhood during her book tour. We also dig into Tucker Carlson’s...
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Ep 491. A Much Needed Crash Out
In this episode, we let loose and kiki. We discuss a range of topics from preparing for a big birthday party, and the pressure of celebrations, the ethics of vasectomies within marriages, and the drama Maga Chili connected yet again to Trump support. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780...
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Ep 490. Iran. Israel. Kanye, and The Mad King
This week, Shanti prepares her will while Antoinette gets cold feet about a coming surgery. Together, we discuss the wild twists and turns between Iran, the U.S, and Israel, and the fragile state of the Cease Fire Agreement. For pop culture we discuss the music comeback of Kanye, and the...
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Ep 489. The Tension Between What Is and What Could Have Been
This week, we explore the tension that comes with getting older: reckoning with the life you have while reflecting on the life you didn’t choose. Using the psychological concept of counterfactual thinking those “what if” and “if only” thoughts, we unpack the emotional pull of the road not taken,...
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Ep 488. The Price of Winning: America, Usher, Jay Z, & Cesar Chavez
For this episode, Shanti visits Antoinette, and together they take over NYC. For politics, we discuss the allegations against Cesar Chavez, and we share our thoughts on a jury finding Meta and YouTube addictive. For pop culture, we discuss the recent Jay Z interview, and Usher defending Puffy.…
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Ep 487. Kristi Noem, Iran, Oscars, MBJ & Jonathan Majors
This week, Shanti goes to a juvenile detention center, while Antoinette continues her journey with fasting. For politics, we discuss Iran, betting on wars, and Kristi Noem's firing. For pop culture, we share our takes on the recent Oscar wins. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email:...
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Ep 486. Industry Ending, Ellison Empire Expands, The Cost of Integrity + Knowles Video Leak
This week, Shanti and Antoinette plan a date in NYC. Together, we talk about the end of Industry and Knights of the Seven Kingdoms; we discuss the Ellison family collecting media and tech companies like Infinity Stones; we question whether success requires a small loss of integrity; and we…
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Ep 485. U.S Attacks Iran, Jim Carrey Clone, Tourettes Fallout, And An Apology to MBJ
This week, Shanti learns how to lobby, while Antoinette gets folded up like a pretzel. Together, we unpack the U.S. strikes on Iran and what they could mean going forward, the fallout from racist slurs aired during a recent awards show, Jim Carrey clone theory, and a heartfelt apology to Michael…
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Ep 484. Mastering Partnership: How to Lead, Listen, and Love Better
*We will be covering the US & Israel attacking Iran & the Save Act next week, along with pop culture. This episode explores the dynamics of healthy relationships, focusing on communication, leadership, and mutual effort. The hosts share personal insights and analyze relationship clips to uncover...
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Ep. 483 We're Back and Trying Something New
We return from our break, refreshed and slightly reformed. In this episode we catch you up on our lives since our break, and discuss Bad Bunny, America's Next Top Model, Game of Thrones as a Multiverse, and Mamdani's is shaping up as Mayor of NY. Join us.... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780...
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Reprise: Ep 121. Your Beef is My Beef
In this episode, Shanti and Antoinette talk Meghan and Harry, Cuomo and cancel culture, & loyalty loyalty loyalty. Join Us General Inquiries: Contact Us: IG: @aroundthewaycurls Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: [email protected] Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls See Privacy Policy...
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Jolie Isn't Into It: Patreon Exclusive Episode Excerpt
As promised, why Shanti and I take some time to recalibrate we are releasing bi weekly epsiodes on patreon. Here's a snippet we thought you would enjoy. Miss yall. Contact Us: IG: @aroundthewaycurls Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: [email protected] Patreon…
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Reprise: Episode 101 What Happened to Men Begging? ft. Clint Coley
And we're back with our 101st episode. We are joined by the one and only Clint Coley who is no stranger to the podcast. Together, we discuss Ayesha Curry being the symbol of light-skin privilege, 50 Cent being a jackass, Ice Cube being naive, and what happened to the golden age of R&B. Join us....
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Reprise: They Will Not Whitewash Our King
In this episode, Shanti deepens her love of Bad Bunny and Puerto Rico while Antoinette shares another musical gem with the people. For our main topic, Antoinette kicks off Black History Month, celebrating the life of Dr. Martin Luther King. The conversation explores the political weaponization of...
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Reprise: God is Tricky ft. Jade & Keia of Gettin Grown
We are joined by the ladies of Gettin Grown pod. We talk Bill Cosby, Monqiue, bonnets, tricky Lord and saviors, and much more. Join us. Shop Merch: https://www.aroundthewaycurls.com/collections General Inquiries: Contact Us: IG: @aroundthewaycurls Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email:...
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Join Us for Another ATWC Community Call Tonight! 7 PM EST!
First, we want to thank everyone who joined us on Saturday. Your input is invaluable and it was really humbling to hear your feedback. We left that call with nothing but gratitude. With that said, we hope those who were unable to join or who have more to share will join our second ATWC Community...
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ATWC Community Call + Another Important Annoucement
First, we want to wish you a very Happy New Year! We hope your year started out smooth and steady and that 2026 behaves, but y'all's president is already cutting up, so it's giving the ghetto again. We also want to remind you that we are hosting 1 of 2 ATWC Community Calls TOMORROW, Saturday…
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Reprise: Exploring the Erotic
In episode 70, we begin with Shanti tapping into her inner Larry David while Antoinette may have found some answers to her recent health mysteries. In honor of March as "Women's History Month", we dive deeper into our pleasure activism with help from the brilliant Black minds of Audre Lorde and...
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Reprise: I Want Men To Lead. Am I Toxic?
Description In this episode, we are inspired by the recent conversation between podcaster Shannon Boodram and actress Cree Summer. Together, we dissect the dynamics of leadership in partnerships, the balance of masculine and feminine energies, and the challenges of relinquishing control in a...
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Reprise: Our First Around The Way Curl Crash Out
We are celebrating 400 episodes! With the help of our listeners, we let loose with a completely unstructured, free-flowing episode. Together, we answer listener questions and talk about any and everything such as circumcision, The Star Spangled Banner, biblical prophesies, why female orgasms are...
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Reprise Ep 413. Womanhood With A White Mother
This episode explores the complexities of womanhood and identity, focusing on our experiences of being raised by white mothers. We reflect on our childhoods and discuss the influence our mothers had on our perceptions of beauty, relationships and sense of responsibility. We highlight the…
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Ep 482. See Yall Later
Last episode of the year! We crashout over the new Diddy doc, the implications of 50 Cent's involvement, and crack up over Grits and Eggs' Deante Kyle being biracial, which just makes so much sense. Join us Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: [email protected] Patreon:...
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Ep 481. Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200 + An Important Announcement
*Happy Birthday, Shanti* In this episode, we kick things off with an important announcement. We then deep-dive into the complexities of Netflix and Paramount vying to buy Warner Bros., implications of the pending farmer bailout, and the impact of corporate consolidation/ monopolies on culture &...
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Ep 480. The Future of Planned Parenthood ft. CEO and President Alexis McGill Johnson
In this episode, we are joined by the Planned Parenthood CEO and President Alexis McGill Johnson. Antoinette and Shanti share their personal stories of the care that Planned Parenthood has provided, which continues to impact their lives, while Alexis shares her legacy of activism and addresses...
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Ep 479. Vengeance on Venezuela, Summer Walker Saga, Mark Lamont Hill Vs. Brian McKnight
In this episode, Shanti is speaking Spanish for her Bad Bunny countdown, Antoinette is retiring from cake-making, and the U.S. is ramping up pressure on Venezuela with Pete Hegseth waving the flag. We unpack Trump’s new immigrant ban, Summer Walker doubling down on side-chick life, Kim K’s latest...
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Reprise: Shanti Steps Out On Faith with Sable
Want to know the origin story of The Sable Collective? In episode 47, Shanti talks all things The Sable Collective. She discusses her new role as sole owner of The Sable Collective and how she is channeling some of her gangster energy from her past. As a result, she also shares her top business...
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