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Bad Wives Club
by Bleav, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano
Welcome to The Bad Wives Club! We’re Libby & Liz — two best friends bringing our phone conversations straight to your speakers. We talk about the good, the bad, and the real life of marriage and motherhood. We’ve been through it all together for over 15 years—growing up, growing families, and figuring out life one stage at a time. We’re not professionals, just two moms keeping it real and leaving the expert advice to, well… the experts. Tune in weekly to hear all about how we juggle our daily lives as working moms, all while confidently NOT doing it all (*insert husband here*)!
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Back to School, Mom Anxiety and Sharing the Morning Chaos | 116
School is back, the lunchboxes need packing, and someone’s crying at drop-off—possibly us. Liz + Libby are putting you on speaker for an honest catch-up about back-to-school routines, mom anxiety, and sharing the morning chaos with our husbands. We’re answering your parenting questions, catching up on Liz’s Italy trip, and figuring out this new season of motherhood together. This week on Bad Wives Club, we're talking about: • Starting kindergarten, emotional preschool drop-offs, and settling into school-year routines • What we’re actually packing in our kids’ lunches • Sharing morning responsibilities with our husbands and managing the mental load of parenting • Kids’ screen time and the anxiety of worrying something could happen to your children • Going from one kid to two and traveling with babies • Finding a balance between fitness, nutrition, and enjoying your life • Liz’s Italy recap and the “nappuccino” hangover conversation we apparently needed to have BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Love hanging with us? Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Make busy lunches and weeknight dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. Cozy Earth — Get cozy with 20% off at checkout using code BADWIVES. Make sure you tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from Bad Wives Club! Supporting our sponsors helps support the show—thank you for showing them some love. COME HANG WITH US Follow Bad Wives Club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you never miss an episode. Loved this episode? Send it to the friend who needs to hear it—and leave us a 5-star review! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Grief, Marriage and Taking the Trip with Liz and Jeff Fragala | 115
The kids are young. Work is busy. There’s always a reason to put the trip—and time together—off, but after losing both of his parents, Jeff Fragala has a different perspective on waiting for “someday.” SPECIAL GUEST: Jeff Fragala, Liz’s husband This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz + Jeff Fragala are talking about: • Grief after losing both parents and how loss changes your priorities • Prioritizing your marriage while raising a family • Planning their first trip to Europe together—Positano, Italy! • Making time for each other without waiting for the perfect moment An honest conversation about grief, marriage, and choosing to make memories with the people you love. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Westwood IV Therapy — Use code BWC50 for $50 off your first IV. Nutre Meals — Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. COME HANG WITH US We’re so grateful you’re here and part of the Bad Wives Club community. Join the club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast where you listen to podcasts! If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with someone who might need it. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find us. Thank you for listening and supporting the show. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The Lindsay Clancy Trial: Postpartum Mental Health with Therapist Alexandria Hershman | 114
“Something isn’t right. I need help.” Why is that so hard for so many moms to say? The conversation surrounding the Lindsay Clancy trial brings us to an important discussion about postpartum mental health, recognizing warning signs, and helping mothers feel safe asking for support. SPECIAL GUEST: Alexandria “Allie” Hershman, licensed clinical therapist This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Baby blues, postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, postpartum OCD, and postpartum psychosis • Intrusive thoughts versus command hallucinations—and recognizing when urgent help is needed • Medication, psychiatric care, and gaps in postpartum screening and support • The fear of speaking up and how partners, family, and friends can step in proactively We’re sharing personal experiences and focusing on maternal mental health education and support, without assessing Lindsay Clancy’s diagnosis or legal case. CONNECT WITH ALLIE alexandriahershman.com Instagram: @alexandriahershman + @allie_jaie BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. Cozy Earth — Use code BADWIVES for 20% off at checkout, and tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from Bad Wives Club! COME HANG WITH US We’re so grateful you’re here and part of the Bad Wives Club community. Join the club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast! If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with someone who might need it. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find us. Thank you for listening and supporting the show. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Going Back to Work After Maternity Leave: Guilt & New Routines | 113
Excited to go back to work—and feeling guilty about it? Libby’s six months of maternity leave are coming to an end, and we’re talking about all the feelings that can exist at once: anticipation, anxiety, and the bittersweet reality of leaving your baby. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Returning to work after maternity leave and navigating mom guilt • The anxiety and excitement of being away from your baby • Adjusting family schedules and balancing work and motherhood • Their reactions to the Lindsay Clancy trial at the time of recording • Why Netflix’s I Will Find You has become their latest obsession If you’re preparing to return to work or finding your rhythm as a working mom, you’re in good company. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Thank you for supporting the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Make busy workdays and family dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so glad you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Know a mom heading back to work? We’d love for you to send this episode her way. And if you’re enjoying the show, we’d be so grateful for a 5-star rating or review—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for being part of it. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Too Tired to Socialize? Motherhood & the Guilt of Saying No | 112
Love your friends. Still hoping someone cancels the plans? Libby is in her “family bubble” era, and we’re talking about the phase of motherhood where another invitation feels like another thing on the to-do list. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Feeling too tired to socialize while juggling kids, the house, and everyday life • Mom guilt, saying no to plans, and feeling like you should be more social • Whether it’s motherhood burnout, getting older, or changing priorities • Setting boundaries and making room for quiet time at home with your family For the mom who loves her people but wants to be home in sweatpants by 6 PM—we get it. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Nutre Meals — Take one thing off your plate with meals ready when you need them. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB A club you can join from your couch? You’re in the right place. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If this sounded like your group chat, we’d love for you to share it with your friends—no plans required. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so grateful. It helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Summer Mom Routines: Working vs. Staying Home with the Kids | 111
Summer with kids: who’s working, who’s at camp, and how are we getting everyone out the door? Liz + Libby walk through their real daily routines, from the first coffee to the last bedtime, while juggling two very different schedules. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Working-mom summer routines: balancing work, camp drop-offs, and pick-ups • Life at home during Libby’s final weeks of maternity leave with baby Sonny and her two older boys • Caring for a baby while keeping up with the house and everyone’s schedules • Getting through dinner, bedtime, and everything in between An honest day-in-the-life conversation about working, staying home with kids, and the everyday logistics of summer parenting. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Thank you for supporting the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Make busy summer lunches and family dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB Whether you’re listening on your commute, pushing the stroller, or finally sitting down after bedtime, we’re so glad you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Have a friend juggling the summer shuffle, too? We’d love for you to send this episode her way. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for making us part of your day. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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When Can Kids Play Outside Alone? Parenting Q+A | 110
Libby is a ’90s mom. Liz is our resident “wannabe crunchy” mom. This week, we’re comparing parenting styles and answering your questions about kids’ independence, screen time, and the everyday decisions that don’t come with a handbook. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz + Libby talk about: • When we’d let kids play outside without parents and use public bathrooms alone • Our different parenting styles and views on outdoor free play • Pre-vacation arguments and the mental load of family travel • Weekend spending, toddler bed transitions, and favorite kids’ toys • Nintendo Switch, screen time, and introducing kids to gaming JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so grateful you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a friend. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Raising Grateful Kids + Feeling Disconnected from Your Husband | 109
How do we raise grateful kids—and still feel connected to our husbands when summer takes over? Liz + Libby get honest about parenting approaches, teaching responsibility, and the relationship strain that can come with having the kids home full-time. Plus, beauty favorites and embracing life in our thirties. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Raising grateful kids and teaching responsibility from an early age • Trying different parenting approaches with our families • Feeling disconnected from your husband during summer with kids • Our current beauty favorites and Liz’s upcoming 35th birthday JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so grateful you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a friend. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Summer with Kids: Family Travel + Life Before Work Starts Again | 108
Packing for a family vacation or making summer memories close to home? We’re talking about both, as Liz + Libby share what this season looks like for their families. Libby is also soaking up her final weeks of maternity leave before heading back to work. This week on Bad Wives Club, we're talking about: • Summer travel plans for Cape Cod, Italy, and Aruba • Vacation packing and finding local adventures with kids • Libby’s final weeks of maternity leave before returning to work • Her postpartum experience and daily life with three boys • Making time for healthy eating, consistent workouts, and self-care JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so grateful you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a friend. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Peptides + GLP-1s: A Conversation with Wholistic Nutritionist Courtney Little | 107
Peptides are all over your feed—but what’s behind the hype? Courtney Little returns to Bad Wives Club for a conversation about peptides, GLP-1 medications, and the habits that support long-term wellness. We’re exploring her perspective on these topics and why a trending product isn’t the whole picture. SPECIAL GUEST: Courtney Little, holistic nutritionist This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Courtney’s perspective on peptides and the claims surrounding them • GLP-1 medications, metabolic health, and sustainable weight loss • Building everyday habits alongside conversations about wellness treatments • Questions to consider before following the latest health trend CONNECT WITH COURTNEY Explore Courtney’s free peptide guide, peptide course, and wellness website. Follow @courtneylittle.wellness on Instagram. BWC PARTNER OF THE SHOW: Nutre Meals — Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so grateful you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a friend. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Would You Rather? Mom Edition: Date Nights or a Solo Hotel Stay | 106
Guaranteed date nights or a hotel room all to yourself? Liz + Libby are playing Would You Rather: Mom Edition, and the answers say a lot about what we need right now. What starts with clean houses and quiet mornings turns into a deeper conversation about grief, perspective, and being present. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • A spotless house versus stress-free mornings • Guaranteed date nights versus a solo hotel getaway • Bigger questions about motherhood and our kids’ futures • Grief, perspective, and appreciating everyday moments with our families JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so grateful you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a friend. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com/ for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Raising Inclusive Kids with Little Sparks Project | 105
How do you turn a life-changing family experience into support for someone else? Megan Tanna shares how her son Brooks’s Apert syndrome diagnosis helped inspire Little Sparks Project. Alongside board member Amanda Sarkis, we’re talking about motherhood, navigating medical challenges, and teaching our kids to meet differences with kindness. SPECIAL GUESTS: Megan Tanna, founder of Little Sparks Project, and Amanda Sarkis, board member This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Megan’s experience raising three boys and navigating Brooks’s Apert syndrome diagnosis• The emotional and financial challenges families face with complex medical needs• Why Megan and her husband founded Little Sparks Project• Talking to children about differences with compassion and curiosity• Raising inclusive kids and finding ways to support other families SUPPORT LITTLE SPARKS PROJECT Learn more about Little Sparks Project and how to support its work. If you’re able, please consider making a donation through their website—every contribution is appreciated. Sharing Megan’s family story is another meaningful way to help spread awareness. Thank you for helping more people find this organization and its mission. The June 7 event at Trillium Canton mentioned in this recording has already taken place. Visit Little Sparks Project for current events and ways to get involved. JOIN THE CLUB We’re so grateful you’re here and making space for conversations like this. Join Bad Wives Club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a parent, friend, or family member. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Maycember Overload: School Events, Mom Pressure + Saying No | 104
Field days. Sports schedules. Another party to plan. Welcome to Maycember, when the school year is winding down but the demands on moms are doing the opposite. Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are catching up on: • Mother’s Day and the chaos of end-of-school activities• Parenting overwhelm and the pressure to do everything for everyone• Setting boundaries, saying no, and asking for help• Welcoming Liz’s baby nephew, Troy• Finding moments of gratitude in a very full season of life If your calendar is packed and your patience is running low, pull up a seat. We’re right there with you. A LITTLE HELP FROM OUR PARTNERS Fewer dinner decisions? We’ll take it. Thank you to the partners who support Bad Wives Club—and to you for showing them some love. Nutre Meals — Make busy lunches and weeknight dinners easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB Consider this one invitation that doesn’t require getting dressed or adding anything to your calendar. Hang with us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Know a mom surviving Maycember, too? We’d love for you to send this her way. Your shares, follows, and kind reviews mean so much to us. If you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, thank you—it helps more people find their way into the club. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nashville with Alix Earle + Life Three Months Postpartum | 103
A Nashville trip with an unexpected TV appearance? Liz is back from partying with Alix Earle and sharing the recap. Meanwhile, Libby is three months postpartum, and we’re catching up on life after baby and the village helping us through it. On this episode of Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano get into: • Liz’s Nashville trip and meeting Alix Earle• Being there for the taping of Earle Meets World• Liz’s upcoming summer trip to Aruba• Libby’s experience during the first three months postpartum• The friends and family showing up for us in motherhood LOVE FOR OUR PARTNERS A little help with meals goes a long way in this season of life. We’re grateful to the partners who support Bad Wives Club, and to you for supporting them. Nutre Meals — Take lunch or dinner off your to-do list. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB From nights out to newborn days, we’re glad we get to share it all with you. Come hang with us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Have a friend who’d love this catch-up? We’d be so grateful if you sent it her way. And if the show has made you laugh or feel a little less alone, a 5-star rating or review means so much—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for being here. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to The Bad Wives Club! We’re Libby & Liz — two best friends bringing our phone conversations straight to your speakers. We talk about the good, the bad, and the real life of marriage and motherhood. We’ve been through it all together for over 15 years—growing up, growing families, and figuring out life one stage at a time. We’re not professionals, just two moms keeping it real and leaving the expert advice to, well… the experts. Tune in weekly to hear all about how we juggle our daily lives as working moms, all while confidently NOT doing it all (*insert husband here*)!
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Bleav, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano
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