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Between The Lines
by Leanne Tran & Chelle Griffin
Chelle and Leanne are avid readers, mothers, and both work therapeutically with families. We read the books, and share perspectives on how they can add value to your life.
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Ep 78: Motherhood, Identity and Reclaiming Your Wildness: Lauren Keegan on The Woman in the Seal Skin
What happens to the parts of ourselves we put aside when we become who everyone else needs us to be? In this episode of Between The Lines, Leanne is joined by author and psychologist Lauren Keegan to discuss her haunting historical novel, The Woman in the Seal Skin. Set on the remote Orkney Islands in 1695, the novel follows Mali, a young woman raised on stories of selkies: shape-shifting women who shed their seal skins to walk on land. Mali has always done what is expected of her. Now married and expecting her first child, her life appears safe and predictable. But beneath it all is a yearning for the sea and for a part of herself she has never been allowed to fully know. Lauren shares how traditional selkie folklore inspired the novel, particularly the story of a woman whose seal skin is stolen, trapping her on land as a wife and mother until she eventually reclaims it and returns to the sea. From there, our conversation explores something that will feel familiar to many women: the tension between loving the people and roles in our lives and still yearning for something that belongs entirely to ourselves. We talk about motherhood and identity, the judgement placed on women who pursue their own needs, and why having something that brings us back to ourselves can be so important. We also explore the darker side of folklore. Who gets to tell the story? Who benefits from the version that survives? And what happens when stories about women are used to frighten them, control them or keep them small? In this episode we discuss: The selkie folklore that inspired The Woman in the Seal Skin Why Lauren chose Orkney in 1695 as the setting Motherhood and the yearning to retain a sense of self The impossible judgement women can face whether they prioritise their children or themselves Why our passions don't need to serve anyone else to be worthwhile Female oppression, violence and the ways stories can be used to control women How folklore can help communities explain loss, tragedy and things they don't understand The sea as a metaphor for emotion, thought, freedom and wildness Bessie as an outsider, healer and woman who has embraced her own wildness Lauren's work as a psychologist in perinatal and infant mental health and how her interest in women's experiences connects with her writing The relationship between nature, folklore and human experience across Lauren's novels This is a beautiful conversation about motherhood, identity and the parts of ourselves that continue calling to us, even when life has taught us to keep them quiet.
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Ep 77: Belonging, Identity and Seeing Australia Differently: Tyree Barnette with Stolen Man on Stolen Land
What does it mean to build a home in a country that isn't your own? In this episode of Between The Lines, we're joined by author Tyree Barnette to discuss his powerful memoir, Stolen Man on Stolen Land. After moving from North Carolina to Sydney, Tyree expected Australia to be familiar enough to feel like home. Instead, he found himself seeing both countries through a completely new lens. As a Black American living in Australia, he reflects on migration, race, belonging and identity with remarkable honesty, curiosity and compassion. Rather than offering easy answers, Tyree invites readers to sit with complexity. He shares what surprised him most about Australian culture, the similarities and differences between race relations in Australia and the United States, and how learning about Indigenous Australian history transformed his understanding of the country he now calls home. At its heart, Stolen Man on Stolen Land is a deeply personal story about leaving one home, finding another, and recognising that identity is shaped not only by where we come from, but by how willing we are to listen, learn and grow. In this episode we discuss: Tyree's journey from North Carolina to Sydney The joys and challenges of migration Race, identity and belonging across two countries Learning about Australia's Indigenous history The complexity of comparing Australia and the United States Why curiosity and empathy are more powerful than certainty Writing memoir with honesty, vulnerability and humour Finding home while holding space for difficult conversations This is a thoughtful conversation about identity, perspective and what happens when we begin to see both ourselves and our country through someone else's eyes.
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Ep 76: Secrets, Scandal and Australia's First Casino: Mary-Lou Stephens on The Hobart Hotel
What happens when one place witnesses two extraordinary moments in history? In this episode of Between The Lines, we're joined by bestselling Australian author Mary-Lou Stephens to discuss The Hobart Hotel, a dual-timeline historical novel inspired by the remarkable history of the Rest Point site in Hobart. Travelling between pre-war Tasmania in 1939 and the opening of Australia's first legal casino in 1973, the novel follows two women whose lives become unexpectedly connected across time. As they navigate love, ambition, family expectations and life-changing decisions, the story explores how ordinary people are often at the heart of history's biggest moments. Mary-Lou shares the fascinating real-life events that inspired the novel, why she was drawn to the controversy surrounding Australia's first casino, and how she balances historical fact with compelling fiction. We also discuss writing complex female characters, the joy of uncovering forgotten stories, and why setting can become a character in its own right. In this episode we discuss: The real history behind Australia's first legal casino Why the Rest Point site inspired an entire novel Writing dual timelines across 1939 and 1973 Creating ordinary women who find themselves in extraordinary circumstances Researching Tasmanian history and bringing it vividly to life Exploring controversial historical events without judging either side How travel, place and history continue to inspire Mary-Lou's writing The enduring appeal of historical fiction rooted in real events Whether you love Australian historical fiction, dual timelines, or stories about resilient women finding their own path, this conversation offers a fascinating glimpse into the research and storytelling behind The Hobart Hotel.
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Ep 75: More Than a Vampire Romance: Lily Crozier on Vow of Eternal Night
What makes someone a monster: what they are, or the choices they make? In this episode of Between The Lines, we're joined by debut author Lily Crozier on the publication day of her gothic vampire romance, Vow of Eternal Night. The novel follows Clara Wagner, a young woman who has always known monsters are real. When she is abducted by the feared vampire Prince Rayleigh and forced into a betrothal, Clara is given an impossible choice: break his curse before the end of the year or become his bride for eternity. Lily shares how she set out to write the vampire romance she wanted to read, filled with dangerous vampires, gothic castles, sweeping romance and atmospheric historical detail. But beneath the irresistible fantasy premise is a story about identity, autonomy and the choices people make when they hold power. We discuss why the true monsters in the story are not always the vampires, and how human greed and cruelty can be far more frightening than anything supernatural. Lily also explains why it was important for Clara to remain an individual within the romance, and for Clara and Rayleigh's relationship to be built between two equals rather than one person losing themselves in the other. In this episode, we discuss: Writing an atmospheric vampire romance with gothic, old-world influences The vampire folklore of Austria, Germany and Hungary Why Lily wrote the book she desperately wanted to read The difference between being seen as a monster and choosing to behave monstrously Power, trauma and personal responsibility Clara's journey towards self-identity and autonomy Creating a romance between two equal, fully realised individuals Why the book may appeal to readers who grew up loving Twilight but now want something richer and more empowering Lily's journey from unfinished manuscripts to publishing her debut novel Vow of Eternal Night delivers the addictive pull and romantic tension readers love in vampire fiction, while offering a thoughtful exploration of identity, equality and what truly defines a person.
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Ep 74: Bad Girls Make Great Detectives: Fiona Hardy on Old Games
Bad Girls Make Great Detectives: Fiona Hardy on Old Games In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne sit down with Melbourne author Fiona Hardy to talk about her latest crime novel Old Games — a fast-paced and offbeat Australian mystery set across Melbourne and the Mornington Peninsula. Before we dive into crime fiction, we begin by uncovering Fiona's own criminal past… which involves stealing a single chocolate freckle from a milk bar at the age of seven. From there, the conversation turns to Hardy's love of crime writing and why she wanted to create a story centred on two morally flexible female private investigators instead of the traditional male detective. In Old Games, best friends Alice and Teddy make a living fixing problems no one else wants to deal with. When they're hired to track down the stolen ashes of a famous tennis player, what seems like a strange but simple job quickly spirals into a tangled web of secrets, lies, and danger. As they chase clues through Melbourne and along the Mornington Peninsula, Alice and Teddy discover that everyone connected to the late sports star is hiding something — and the deeper they dig, the riskier the investigation becomes. In our conversation with Fiona, we explore: Why crime fiction continues to captivate readers The joy of writing flawed and morally suspect female characters The friendship dynamic between Alice and Teddy Writing crime set in recognisably Australian settings The appeal of Aussie crime novels If you love crime fiction with sharp dialogue, strong female characters, and plenty of twists, this episode — and this book — is for you. About the Book Old Games by Fiona Hardy is a pacey Australian crime novel about two private investigators tasked with retrieving the stolen ashes of a famous tennis star. What begins as a routine job quickly turns complicated when everyone connected to the deceased sportsman appears to be hiding something. As Alice and Teddy dig deeper into Melbourne's sporting and celebrity circles, secrets unravel and the danger begins to escalate. About the Author Fiona Hardy is a Melbourne-based writer, bookseller, and reviewer. Her previous crime novel Unbury the Dead was shortlisted for the Ned Kelly Awards. Fiona is also an award-winning author of books for younger readers, including How to Make a Movie in 12 Days (a CBCA Notable Book) and How to Write the Soundtrack to Your Life, which won the 2021 Children's Peace Literature Award. Despite writing about crime, Fiona's real-life criminal history is relatively minor — consisting of stealing a single chocolate freckle from a milk bar when she was seven years old. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. Listen to the podcast for author interviews and book chats that help you discover your next great read. Join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook.
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Ep 73: Murder, Motherhood and Baby Rhyme Time: Penny Tangey on What Rhymes with Murder?
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne chat with Australian author Penny Tangey about her delightfully funny cosy crime novel What Rhymes with Murder? The story begins with Frida, an exhausted new mother searching for something to break up the sleep-deprived blur of early parenthood. When she attends Baby Rhyme Time at her local library, it feels like a small but meaningful step back into the world. Then someone screams… and a body hits the floor. Suddenly the library becomes a crime scene, and Frida finds herself drawn into an unexpected amateur investigation alongside a group of unlikely sleuths. Between gossip sessions and plenty of coffee at their local café, the group begin piecing together what happened — without realising just how close they might be to danger. In our conversation with Penny, we talk about: The inspiration behind What Rhymes with Murder? Writing cosy crime with humour and heart The chaotic and identity-shifting experience of early motherhood How libraries and community spaces bring people together Creating an amateur detective who feels real, relatable and funny Penny Tangey brings warmth, wit and sharp observation to this story, blending murder mystery with the messy reality of new parenthood. If you enjoy cosy crime with quirky characters and plenty of humour, this is a great one to add to your reading list. About the Author Penny Tangey is a librarian, mother and former stand-up comedian living in East Melbourne. She has written several children's books with UQP, including As Fast As I Can, which won a Queensland Literary Award and the Readings Children's Book Prize. Her middle-grade novel Music Camp was published in 2025. What Rhymes with Murder? is her first novel for adults. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration. 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook. https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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Ep 72: What Makes Someone a Mother? Susi Fox and The Other Child
What Makes Someone a Mother? A Conversation with Susi Fox about The Other Child In this episode of Between the Lines, we're joined by bestselling author Susi Fox to discuss her novel The Other Child - a gripping psychological story that explores motherhood, identity, and the fragile boundaries of belonging. This is a book that unsettles in the best way. At its heart, The Other Child asks a confronting question: What truly makes someone a mother? Biology? Love? Care? Or something more complicated? In our conversation, Susi shares the inspiration behind the novel and how she approached writing morally complex characters who don't sit neatly in "right" or "wrong." In This Episode We Discuss: The emotional spark behind The Other Child Writing flawed, layered female characters The psychology of maternal attachment Moral ambiguity and reader discomfort Why the novel challenges traditional ideas of motherhood How tension is built through character rather than plot twists We also talk about how readers respond when a story pushes them into uncomfortable territory, and why that discomfort can be powerful. Themes Explored Motherhood and identity Belonging and displacement Jealousy, fear, and vulnerability The complexity of female relationships The gap between public perception and private emotion This is a thoughtful, layered discussion about the emotional terrain beneath the thriller elements. If you enjoy psychological fiction that stays with you long after you close the book — this episode is for you. About the Book The Other Child is a psychological novel that explores the fragile bonds between mothers and children, and what happens when those bonds are threatened. With emotional depth and mounting tension, Susi Fox examines how love can exist alongside fear, and how identity can fracture under pressure. AND IF YOU LOVE DISCUSSING BOOKS: Join our bookclub here for insider author chats: https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Toni Jordan on Tenderfoot (Greyhounds, Secrets and Survival in 1970s Brisbane)
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne chat with acclaimed Australian author Toni Jordan about her powerful new novel Tenderfoot. Set in Brisbane in 1975, Tenderfoot follows Andie Tanner, a serious and determined young girl whose world revolves around her father and the racing greyhounds they keep beneath their home. Andie dreams of becoming a greyhound trainer herself, imagining a future built around the dogs and family she loves. But life quickly becomes far more complicated than she expected. When Andie loses the stability and people she depends on, she's forced to navigate a world shaped by secrets, addiction, grief and survival — all while trying to hold onto a sense of who she is and what kind of future might still be possible. In our conversation with Toni, we discuss: Writing coming-of-age stories shaped by hardship and resilience Capturing Brisbane in the 1970s The role of greyhound racing culture in the novel Creating young protagonists with strength and emotional depth Family complexity, addiction and survival Why Andie's voice feels so authentic and compelling This is a moving and beautifully observed novel about growing up too quickly, learning who to trust, and finding a way forward when life doesn't unfold as expected. If you enjoy character-driven historical fiction with emotional depth and richly drawn Australian settings, this episode is for you. About the Book Tenderfoot is a coming-of-age novel set in 1970s Brisbane following Andie Tanner, a young girl whose life centres around her father and their racing greyhounds. When tragedy and instability shatter the world she knows, Andie must navigate a far more difficult reality shaped by secrets, addiction and survival while trying to reclaim her future. About the Author Toni Jordan is the bestselling author of Addition, Nine Days, Dinner with the Schnabels and Prettier if She Smiled More. Her novels are known for their emotional insight, memorable characters and distinctly Australian storytelling. Toni lives in Melbourne and Tenderfoot is her eighth novel. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver a book club to your reading nook
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Ep 71: Miniature Trains, Missing Equipment and a Mum Sleuth: Kate Solly on The Paradise Heights Miniature Railway Bust Up
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne welcome Kate Solly back to the podcast to chat about her latest cosy crime novel, The Paradise Heights Miniature Railway Bust Up. Kate's books have become beloved for their blend of mystery, humour, community chaos and deeply relatable motherhood moments — and this latest instalment is no exception. This time, amateur sleuth Fleck Parker finds herself investigating strange goings-on at the local miniature railway, where expensive equipment has mysteriously disappeared. Between feeding a hungry baby, managing a cranky toddler, surviving school drop-offs and protecting her Wordle streak, Fleck somehow also finds time to investigate crime. Meanwhile, her best friend Trixie is dealing with mounting volunteer drama at the local craft shop, proving once again that small-town community groups can be just as chaotic as any murder scene. In our conversation with Kate, we discuss: Why cosy crime readers love quirky community settings Balancing humour with genuine mystery and darker themes Writing motherhood in a realistic, funny and relatable way The inspiration behind Fleck Parker's chaotic but lovable character Crafting communities, miniature railways and small-town dynamics Why amateur sleuths make such compelling protagonists As always, Kate brings warmth and humour to the conversation, and we found ourselves laughing through much of the episode. If you love cosy mysteries filled with heart, chaos, friendship and community drama, this episode — and this book — are such a fun time. About the Book The Paradise Heights Miniature Railway Bust Up is a cosy Australian mystery following amateur sleuth Fleck Parker as she investigates theft and suspicious behaviour at the local miniature railway. As Fleck juggles parenting chaos, community drama and mounting clues, she discovers that beneath the cheerful surface of Paradise Heights lies something far more sinister than anyone expected. About the Author Kate Solly is a writer, mother of six and author of Tuesday Evenings With the Copeton Craft Resistance and The Paradise Heights Craft Store Stitch-Up. Known for blending humour, heart and mystery, Kate writes cosy crime novels grounded in relatable family life, quirky communities and plenty of crafting chaos. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook
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BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Trish Bolton on Whenever You're Ready
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne chat with Australian author Trish Bolton about her thoughtful and emotionally layered novel Whenever You're Ready. At the heart of the story are three interconnected women - Lizzie, Alice and Margot - each standing at a crossroads in life, forced to confront the gap between who they thought they would become and where life has actually led them. Lizzie is shaken by a decades-old revelation that changes the way she sees her marriage, friendships and family history. Alice, once effortlessly charismatic and carefree, is beginning to feel the instability beneath the life she has carefully improvised for years. And Margot, outwardly successful and perfectly composed, realises that some parts of the past can't simply be packed away and ignored. In our conversation with Trish, we discuss: Writing women at different stages of life The tension between reinvention and acceptance Family secrets and the ripple effects they create How people carry unresolved parts of themselves into adulthood Friendship, ageing and identity Creating emotionally rich characters with warmth and nuance This is a beautifully reflective conversation about the lives we build, the stories we tell ourselves, and the moments that force us to reconsider both. If you enjoy character-driven fiction filled with emotional insight, complex relationships and thoughtful observations about life, this episode is for you. About the Book Whenever You're Ready follows three interconnected women navigating grief, secrets and turning points in their lives after an unexpected death brings old wounds and unresolved questions back to the surface. Warm, wise and quietly moving, the novel explores friendship, family, ageing and the tension between looking back and moving forward. About the Author Trish Bolton writes thoughtful contemporary fiction exploring relationships, identity and the emotional complexities of everyday life. Her work is known for its warmth, insight and deeply human characters. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration Or join our online book club, where we deliver a book club to your reading nook
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Ep 70: Soulmates, Second Chances and the Power of "What If": Emma Grey on Start at the End
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne welcome bestselling Australian author Emma Grey back to the podcast to discuss her moving new novel Start at the End. Known for emotionally rich stories that stay with readers long after the final page, Emma's latest book explores love, loss, fate and the impossible question of what might have happened if life had taken a different turn. Start at the End follows Audrey and Fraser, whose love story begins unexpectedly before deepening into something profound. But just as they begin imagining a future together, tragedy changes everything — leaving them both wrestling with grief, guilt and the haunting pull of "what if." In our conversation with Emma, we discuss: Writing love stories shaped by grief and second chances The emotional power of "sliding doors" moments in life Why readers connect so deeply with stories about loss and hope Balancing heartbreak with humour and warmth The idea that healing doesn't always happen in a straight line How Emma approaches emotionally resonant storytelling As always, Emma brings honesty, warmth and humour to the conversation, making this episode both deeply emotional and incredibly engaging. This is a thoughtful discussion about love, fate, resilience and what it means to begin again when life doesn't unfold the way you imagined. About the Book Start at the End is a powerful contemporary novel about two soulmates whose future is shattered by tragedy just as their life together begins. Exploring grief, guilt, fate and second chances, the novel asks how different our lives might be if one moment had unfolded another way — and whether it's possible to start over after unimaginable loss. About the Author Emma Grey is the USA Today bestselling author of The Last Love Note and Pictures of You. Her novels are known for blending emotional depth, humour and hope, resonating strongly with readers around the world. Emma lives in Canberra, Australia, where she balances writing with family life, photography and chasing the aurora australis. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook
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Ep 69: Desire, Language and a Sicilian Summer: Slip by Abbey Lay
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne chat with Australian author Abbey Lay about her sensual and thought-provoking novel Slip. Set in Palermo during a scorching Sicilian summer, Slip follows Grace, a young linguist who travels to Sicily to study Italian dialects. What begins as a six-week immersion in language and culture takes an unexpected turn when she rents a room in the apartment of a local writer, Nico. As Grace and Nico spend more time together — cooking, talking and exploring the city — their conversations become increasingly intimate. All the while, Grace's long-term partner Jack is due to arrive in Sicily, bringing the tension between desire, loyalty and identity closer to the surface. In this conversation with Abbey, we explore: The inspiration behind Slip Writing about desire and emotional tension The role of language in shaping how we understand ourselves and others The sensory experience of Palermo and Sicilian culture The complex choices we make in relationships Slip is a beautifully written novel that captures the intoxicating pull of place, language and connection — and the difficult questions that arise when our desires begin to shift. About Abbey Abbey Lay grew up in Geelong and now lives in Melbourne. Her first novel, Lead Us Not, was shortlisted for the Victorian Premier's Award for an Unpublished Manuscript. Slip is a lyrical and evocative exploration of language, identity and desire set against the vivid backdrop of Sicily. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations, and wanted to share both with you. Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration. Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook. https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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Ep 68: Romantasy after coming of age, with Olivia O'Flynn
Olivia O'Flynn on Ever Blessed (Tides of Ever, Book 1) In this episode of Between the Lines, we're joined by author Olivia O'Flynn to talk about her fantasy novel Ever Blessed, the first book in the Tides of Ever series. Olivia shares how the story came to life, why she set out to write "the book she wanted to read," and what readers can expect from the world, characters, and themes in the series. We also discuss how the book has been categorised by readers (including "romantasy"), and what that label can mean in practice. In this episode we discuss: Ever Blessed as Book 1 in the Tides of Ever series Olivia's motivation for writing fantasy and the types of stories she loves as a reader Genre conversations, including how the book is sometimes described as romantasy Writing approach and craft choices (including character and tone) Myth and inspiration touchpoints, including recommendations Olivia shares for readers interested in myth retellings and adjacent fantasy/romantasy reads What's next in the series and where Book 2 is at About the book Ever Blessed is a fantasy novel set in the world of the Tides of Ever series. It blends magic, adventure, and relationship dynamics, with a strong focus on compelling characters and an immersive setting. About Olivia O'Flynn Olivia O'Flynn is an author of fantasy fiction and the creator of the Tides of Ever series. AND IF YOU LOVE DISCUSSING BOOKS: Join our bookclub here for insider author chats: https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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Ep 67: Secrets, Small Towns and Strong Female Detectives: Fiona Tarr Live at Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival
Secrets, Small Towns and Strong Female Detectives: Fiona Tarr Live at Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival In this special live episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne sit down with Australian crime author Fiona Tarr at the Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival to talk about her gripping, atmospheric novels. Fiona writes crime fiction set in distinctly Australian landscapes - from remote tropical towns to outback mining communities - where secrets run deep and the past is never far behind. We discuss two of her novels: Grave Regret, which follows detective Dawn Grave as she returns to the town tied to her traumatic past when her sister goes missing, and Her Buried Bones, where a young constable arrives in an outback opal town searching for answers about her family, only to uncover a suspicious death and a trail of buried secrets. Across both stories, Fiona explores what happens when personal history collides with professional duty, and how the truth can be both dangerous to uncover - and impossible to ignore. In This Episode We Discuss Writing crime fiction set in uniquely Australian environments Creating strong, complex female investigators How personal backstories shape investigative decisions The role of small towns in building tension and secrecy Balancing personal stakes with crime-driven plots Why secrets - both personal and communal - sit at the heart of great crime fiction Themes Explored The impact of the past on the present Family, loyalty and unresolved trauma Power dynamics in small communities Corruption, silence and hidden truths The tension between doing your job and following your instincts About the Books Grave Regret is a small-town Australian crime novel following detective Dawn Grave as she returns to her hometown to investigate her sister's disappearance — a case that forces her to confront the trauma she's spent decades trying to forget. Her Buried Bones is set in an outback opal mining town, where a young constable investigating a suspicious death uncovers secrets that may be linked to her own family's past. Both novels combine strong settings, layered characters and steadily building tension. About the Author Fiona Tarr is an Australian crime author known for writing atmospheric mysteries set in rural and remote communities. Her work focuses on strong female leads, complex personal histories and the hidden dynamics within small towns. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook
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Ep 66: Grief, Poetry and Starting Over: Courtney Peppernell on The Last Poem
In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne chat with internationally bestselling author Courtney Peppernell about her latest novel The Last Poem - a moving story about grief, identity and the possibility of starting again. The novel follows Wren Paisley, a successful poet whose life is shattered by the sudden loss of her fiancée, Lucy. Overwhelmed by grief and public attention, she leaves everything behind and finds herself drawn to the small town of Everston, Colorado - a place where no one knows her and she can begin again. There, she quietly rebuilds her life. She changes her name, renovates an old Victorian house, and slowly becomes part of a local grief support group that centres around poetry. For the first time since her loss, she begins to feel a sense of connection — to the town, to the people around her, and possibly to a new kind of love. But as her past begins to catch up with her, she is forced to confront whether she can truly leave her old life behind. In our conversation with Courtney, we explore: How grief shapes identity and the process of starting over The role of poetry in healing and connection Why modern poetry resonates so deeply with readers today Writing in a way that feels accessible, emotional and real How Courtney's own readers influenced the creation of this story We also found ourselves completely drawn into the setting — and may or may not have added the town that inspired Everston, Colorado to our growing "to be visited" list. This is a heartfelt conversation about loss, healing and the quiet ways we begin again. About the Author Courtney Peppernell is an internationally bestselling Australian author, best known for her Pillow Thoughts series and other works exploring love, healing and self-discovery. Her books have sold millions of copies worldwide and have been translated into multiple languages. Courtney lives on the South Coast of NSW and continues to create work that fosters connection, reflection and emotional healing. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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Ep 65: Hormonal Harmony and it's impact on Health, with Sharon Kolkka
How to Be Well: Finding Your Way Back to Energy, Balance and You with Sharon Kolkka In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne sit down with Australian wellness expert Sharon Kolkka to talk about her book How to Be Well, co-written with integrative medicine specialist Dr Karen Coates. This conversation is a gentle but powerful reminder that many women are living in a constant state of busyness — juggling work, family and endless to-do lists — while slowly becoming overwhelmed, exhausted and disconnected from their own wellbeing. How to Be Well offers a different way forward. Through a practical and compassionate approach, Sharon and Karen introduce a framework to help women better understand their current state of health, whether they are thriving, surviving or depleted, and what small, meaningful steps they can take to move towards greater energy, balance and resilience. In our conversation with Sharon, we explore: Why so many women are feeling overwhelmed and burnt out The signs that you may be running on empty (even if you've normalised it) The idea of assessing whether you are thriving, surviving or depleted The importance of emotional wellbeing alongside physical health A more holistic, realistic approach to self-care How small, consistent changes can support long-term wellbeing Sharon brings decades of experience in women's health and emotional wellbeing to this conversation, sharing insights in a way that feels both grounded and achievable. This episode is a thoughtful invitation to pause, reflect and consider what it might look like to take better care of yourself - not perfectly, but intentionally. If you've been feeling overtired, stretched too thin, or like your own needs have slipped to the bottom of the list, this conversation will resonate. About the Book How to Be Well is a practical and compassionate guide for women who want to improve their physical, mental and emotional wellbeing. Blending science with real-life strategies, the book introduces a five-pillared approach to wellness and a personal health audit to help you understand your current state and take steps towards greater energy, vitality and resilience. About the Author Sharon Kolkka is one of Australia's most trusted wellness experts, with over 40 years of experience in emotional wellbeing, stress resilience and women's hormonal health. She has worked as an executive leader in award-winning wellness retreats and has supported thousands of women through transformative health programs. Sharon is a highly regarded speaker known for making complex health information accessible, practical and empowering. AND IF YOU LOVE DISCUSSING BOOKS: Join our bookclub here for insider author chats: https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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Ep 64: Meet Cute… or Murder? with Shailee Thompson
In this conversation, we sit down with Shailee Thompson to talk about her novel How To Lose a Guy In Ten Dates. It's a fabulous book unlike one you will have read before - a mix of Rom Com and Slasher, which will have you on the edge of your seat waiting for the potential kiss, and the next inevitable death. We discuss the heart behind her writing, the themes that shaped this book, and the deeper questions it asks about identity, relationships, and what it means to truly see yourself clearly. This is one of those episodes where we go beyond the plot. We talk about: The inspiration behind the story How personal experience shapes fiction The emotional undercurrents running through the book The complexity of relationships and self-discovery What readers might notice on a second read Themes We Explore This episode touches on: Growth and change The tension between who we are and who we think we should be Vulnerability and courage The power of storytelling to help us understand ourselves If you love character-driven stories and conversations that dig into the "why" behind a book, you'll enjoy this one. A Few Standout Moments Shaylee sharing what first sparked the idea for the book The discussion around how characters develop beyond the original plan Reflections on what readers have connected with most The reminder that stories often reveal something back to us Have you read the book yet? What did you notice about the characters? Did anything surprise you? We'd love to hear your thoughts. AND IF YOU LOVE DISCUSSING BOOKS: Join our bookclub here for insider author chats: https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026
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BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Someone Else's Child
If you'd like to join our book discussions, you're always welcome inside the Between the Lines Book Club. The details are in the show notes. Join us for the next chapter. You can join our bookclub here BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Someone Else's Child with Kylie Orr Step into this thoughtful and engaging conversation as Chelle sits down with author Kylie Orr to talk about her debut novel Someone Else's Child and the long, winding road to becoming a published author. Together, they explore the heart of the novel, female friendship, community generosity, moral grey areas, and the emotional complexity that emerges when a child is unwell and a whole town rallies to help. Kylie reflects on empathy, boundaries, and how easily good intentions can become complicated. The conversation also touches on her second novel The 11th Floor, writing trauma with care, and the persistence required to keep going through years of rejection. You'll hear: How Someone Else's Child explores loyalty, power imbalance, and the limits of empathy Why community fundraising raises uncomfortable but important questions Kylie's seven-year journey from first draft to book deal What rejection taught her about resilience and backing herself How The 11th Floor differs in pace, structure, and psychological intensity Discussion prompt: This book asks us to reflect on generosity, trust, and judgement. When you donate or show up for someone in crisis, where do you think responsibility ends, and empathy begins? P.S. Someone Else's Child is a compelling read for anyone who loves slow-burn psychological fiction that asks hard questions about friendship, morality, and what we owe each other in moments of crisis.
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Ep 58: Is This Still the Life I Want? Boogie Wonderland with Kate Halfpenny
If you'd like to join our book discussions, you're always welcome inside the Between the Lines Book Club. The details are in the show notes. Join us for the next chapter. You can join our bookclub here Is This Still the Life I Want? Boogie Wonderland with Kate Halfpenny In this Between the Lines episode, we're talking about Boogie Wonderland — a novel that captures that very specific moment many of us remember all too well: COVID-19 upheaval, career burnout, relationship strain, and the quiet (or not so quiet) question of "Is this still the life I want?" Set against the backdrop of a sea change, Boogie Wonderland explores what happens when life feels out of control — and the pull to step away, reset, and start again. Kate Halfpenny writes beautifully about reinvention, midlife uncertainty, and the messy reality of relationships under pressure. We talk about: Why "starting over" is rarely neat or simple The emotional weight many people carried during COVID — even long after lockdowns ended How place, community, and slowing down can shift perspective The difference between running away and choosing change It's a thoughtful, relatable conversation — especially if you've ever fantasised about packing it all in and moving somewhere by the sea.
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BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Dear Digital We Need to Talk
Dear Digital, We Need to Talk: Reclaiming Our Human Operating System with Dr. Kristy Goodwin In this insightful and energising conversation, Chelle and Leanne sit down with digital wellbeing expert Dr. Kristy Goodwin to unpack her book Dear Digital, We Need to Talk — a science-backed guide to navigating technology in a way that honours how our brains and bodies are actually designed to function. Drawing on neurobiology, peak-performance research, and years of working with high achievers, Kristy explains why so many of us feel constantly "switched on but powered down," and how small, realistic micro-habits can help us reclaim focus, energy, and calm in a digitally intense world. From the story behind the book's title, to understanding chronotypes, stress responses, and our ultradian rhythm, this episode is full of practical takeaways and laugh-out-loud moments (including tech glitches that prove the point). Whether you're an executive, a business owner, or someone simply tired of feeling overwhelmed by screens, this conversation will reshape the way you think about digital life. You'll hear: Why digital detoxes don't work — and what actually does How to align your tech habits with your human operating system The role of ultradian rhythms and why breaks boost—not hinder—productivity Simple strategies like physiological sighs, tech curfews, and 30-second eye resets Why connection, "white space," and tiny micro-habits are essential for wellbeing How walking, nature, and even shower thoughts restore creativity and reduce stress The gender wellbeing gap and why women are facing higher levels of digital burnout Discussion prompt: Kristy says big changes come from small hinges — tiny habits that support our biology. What's one micro-habit you want to try this week to feel more "powered up" in your digital life? Tell us on Instagram or in the book club. P.S. Dear Digital, We Need to Talk is an incredibly accessible, practical, and compassionate read — perfect for anyone craving a healthier relationship with technology without giving it up.
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BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Cactus Pear for my Beloved By Samah Sabawi
Stories We Inherit: Reading "Cactus Pear for My Beloved" by Samah Sabawi Step into this deeply moving conversation as Chelle and Leanne sit down with the book club to discuss Cactus Pear for My Beloved by Samar Sabawi — a poetic, powerful story born from exile, memory, and love. Drawing from her father's life and her own research on transgenerational trauma, Sabawi captures what it means to inherit both loss and hope across generations. In this episode, the group reflects on the book's unique structure — part memoir, part fiction — and how it bridges history with humanity. From learning about Palestine through a family's eyes to exploring how storytelling preserves identity, this is a tender, thought-provoking chat about heritage, empathy, and the power of listening. You'll hear: How Cactus Pear for My Beloved blends memoir, history, and imagination to honour a father's story Why reading about other cultures' histories helps us see our own family stories differently Thoughts on names, identity, and belonging in new lands The book's role as a gentle geography and history lesson — and a human one How stories can reconnect us with our parents, elders, and our shared pasts Discussion prompt: This book reminded us how easily family histories fade if we don't record them. Whose story in your life deserves to be written down? Tell us on Instagram or in the book club. P.S Cactus Pear for My Beloved is a beautifully crafted read for anyone who loves stories that blur the line between memoir and fiction — full of compassion, history, and the enduring strength of family and homeland.
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Ep 57: The Bookshop Detectives by Gareth & Louise Ward
The Bookshop Detectives by Gareth & Louise Ward Step into the charming world of The Bookshop Detective with Chelle and Leanne as they chat with authors (and real-life couple) Louise and Gareth Ward — owners of Wardini Books in New Zealand and the creative minds behind the Tea and Cake and Death series. Blending their backgrounds as former UK police officers with their love of storytelling, they've created a cozy crime world where mystery meets heart, humour, and a touch of small-town chaos. In this episode, they share the real-life inspiration behind their beloved characters Garth, Eloise, and Stevie the dog, how their bookshop community became part of their fictional world, and what it's really like to write crime fiction with your spouse. You'll hear: How policing inspired their approach to plotting, clues, and keeping readers guessing The origins of their real-life Battle of the Book Clubs (and how it became a key scene in the books) Why cozy crime strikes the perfect balance between danger and delight What it's like to co-write a novel — chapter by chapter — without losing your marriage (or your sense of humour) The joy and chaos of running an independent bookshop that feels like family Discussion prompt: If you could set a cozy crime story anywhere, where would it be — and who would your unlikely detective be? Tell us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: Tea and Cake and Death is a deliciously witty read for anyone who loves small-town mysteries, quirky characters, and a touch of danger (served with a slice of cake).
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Ep 56: The Introvert's Guide to Leaving the House: Real Talk on Social Anxiety, Self-Acceptance & Connection with Jenny Valentish
The Introvert's Guide to Leaving the House: Real Talk on Social Anxiety, Self-Acceptance & Connection with Jenny Valentish Step into the quietly chaotic world of social survival with Chelle and Leanne as they chat with journalist and author Jenny Valentish about her brilliant and funny new book, The Introvert's Guide to Leaving the House. Written for introverts, "awkwards," "sociophobes," and everyone who's ever felt drained by small talk, Jenny's book is packed with real-life strategies, relatable stories, and a good dose of humour. In this episode, Jenny opens up about what it really means to live (and thrive) as an introvert in an extrovert's world—covering everything from practical "game plans" for social scenarios to the deeper roots of social reluctance, self-protection, and connection. You'll hear: How Jenny's own experiences with anxiety, addiction, and sobriety shaped the book Why introverts don't need to be "fixed"—just better equipped with their own strategies The difference between solitude and loneliness (and how to find your sweet spot) What "shoulder-to-shoulder" socialising is and why it's a game changer How social anxiety, ADHD, and neurodivergence overlap in unexpected ways Why "show up, then slip out early" might be your new party motto The surprising role of spirituality and ecstatic dance in her journey toward self-connection Jenny's take on humour, authenticity, and the power of books that find you at the right time Discussion prompt: Are you more of an introvert, extrovert—or a mix of both? What helps you recharge or feel more comfortable in social settings? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you've ever dreaded a party invite, overthought a phone call, or longed for deeper conversations, The Introvert's Guide to Leaving the House is your next must-read. Thoughtful, funny, and wonderfully validating—this one's for everyone who's ever said, "I'd rather stay home."
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Ep 55: The Butterfly Women: Melbourne's Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary
The Butterfly Women: Melbourne's Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary Step back in time with Chelle and Leanne as they chat with debut author Madeleine Cleary about her captivating historical novel, The Butterfly Women. Set in the shadowy streets of 1863 Melbourne, this story weaves together romance, drama, and a murder mystery—all through the eyes of two unforgettable women: Johanna Callahan, an Irish immigrant working in a brothel, and Harriet Gardner, a determined journalist on the hunt for a serial killer. Madeleine shares the wild ride of researching and writing her book (think: archives, family secrets, and a dash of footy-mum book clubs!), and what it means to shine a light on the complex, gritty, and often overlooked lives of women in 19th-century Australia. In this episode: The real-life family history that inspired The Butterfly Women—and how Madeleine's infamous ancestor became a character in her novel What it took to research Melbourne's notorious Little Lon district (spoiler: years of digging through archives and old newspapers!) The challenges and joys of balancing historical accuracy with page-turning storytelling How the book evolved from a quiet literary novel to a full-on murder mystery, complete with red herrings and footy-mum sleuths The power and agency of women—even in the toughest circumstances—and the entrepreneurial spirit of Melbourne's brothel keepers Madeleine's writing process, from train commutes to tight deadlines, and her advice for aspiring authors A sneak peek at Madeleine's next project, inspired by another family mystery Discussion prompt: What's your favourite historical fiction set in Australia, or a family story you wish someone would turn into a novel? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you love stories that blend real history, complex women, and a good old-fashioned whodunit, The Butterfly Women is a must-read. And keep an eye out for Madeleine's next book—she's just getting started!
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Ep 54: How to Dodge Flying Sandals with Daniel Nour
Join Chelle and Leanne as they sit down with debut memoirist Daniel Nour to discuss his sharp, funny, and deeply moving book, How to Dodge Flying Sandals. Part coming-of-age tale, part cultural reflection, Daniel's memoir captures what it's like to grow up queer, Egyptian, and Australian—all while navigating family expectations, church traditions, and the sometimes absurd challenge of figuring out who you are. With humor, honesty, and compassion, Daniel shares how writing his story helped him reconcile his own identity, forgive himself (and others), and carve out a space where he belongs. In this episode: The metaphor behind "dodging flying sandals"—and what it reveals about cultural discipline, expectations, and resilience How humor became Daniel's coping mechanism and storytelling superpower Balancing family love with personal authenticity, even when values clash Why representation matters, and how migrant voices challenge mainstream stereotypes in Australia The concept of "letting in" rather than "coming out" when it comes to sharing your true self Discussion prompt: What expectations have you had to "dodge" in order to become more fully yourself? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club—we'd love to hear your story. PS: If you enjoy memoirs that blend humor, identity, and heart, How to Dodge Flying Sandals is a must-read. And keep an ear out for Daniel—this is just the beginning of his storytelling journey.
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Ep 53: By Her Hand: Marion Taffe on Finding Voice and Courage in a Violent World
Episode: By Her Hand: Marion Taffe on Finding Voice and Courage in a Violent World What does it take for a young woman to find her voice in a world determined to silence her? In this episode, Chelle and Leanne sit down with debut author Marion Taffe to explore her powerful historical novel, By Her Hand. Set in the wild, windswept Peak District of Mercia in AD 910, the story follows Freda—a girl who dreams of writing, longs for her father's approval, and must navigate a world full of danger, loss, and impossible choices. Marion shares her journey from journalism to fiction, the six-year process of bringing Freda's story to life, and the inspiration she drew from Old English poetry and fierce women of history. This episode is a celebration of women's courage, the complexity of emotions, and the importance of breaking the rules to find your own voice—on the page and beyond. In this episode: The inspiration behind By Her Hand and the real historical women who helped shape Freda's character Marion's transition from a globe-trotting journalist to a debut novelist—and why fiction was her next big leap The painstaking research, rewrites, and pandemic pivots that shaped the novel (plus a cameo from Marion's kids learning medieval history at home!) How Marion balanced historical accuracy with vivid storytelling, from Old English poetry to the book's striking cover design by Sandy Cole The emotional journey of Freda: from fear and anger to courage and self-expression Why learning the rules—and then breaking them—is essential for writers and dreamers alike Marion's advice for anyone struggling to find their voice or push back against expectations Discussion prompt: What's a "rule" you've had to break to be true to yourself? Or, which historical era would you love to see through the eyes of a fierce female character? Join us on Instagram or in the book club to share your thoughts! PS: If you're drawn to stories of resilience, creativity, and women who fight for their place in the world, By Her Hand is a must-read. Let us know your favorite moments and what resonated with you most!
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Ep 52: Coffee, Confessions & Connection: Saman Shad on The Sex Lives of Married Women
Between The Lines – Episode: Coffee, Confessions & Connection: Saman Shad on The Sex Lives of Married Women What happens when three women—each with their own secrets, struggles, and cultural backgrounds—form an unlikely alliance over coffee, cocktails, and confessions? In this episode, Chelle and Leanne chat with Saman Shad about her bold, witty, and refreshingly honest novel, The Sex Lives of Married Women. Saman, a true "third culture kid," draws on her globe-spanning experiences to create characters who are as complex as they are relatable. Together, they explore the messy realities of marriage, motherhood, and friendship—plus the power of open, honest conversations about intimacy and pleasure. In this episode: The story behind The Sex Lives of Married Women and why Saman wanted to write about female friendship and vulnerability What it means to be a third culture kid—and how that shapes relationships, identity, and storytelling Navigating cultural dynamics in modern marriages and friendships The challenges (and importance!) of writing about sex, pleasure, and real intimacy in long-term relationships How modern communication tools like WhatsApp and LinkedIn make their way into fiction—and real life Why female friendships matter, and how honesty, humor, and support can get us through even the toughest times Saman's hopes for the book to inspire readers to have braver, more open conversations—about sex, relationships, and everything in between. Discussion prompt: Has a friendship ever helped you see your relationship or yourself in a new light? Or, what's a conversation you wish women could have more openly? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you're looking for a read that's equal parts hilarious, heartfelt, and honest, The Sex Lives of Married Women should be at the top of your pile. And if you love supporting Australian authors, grab a copy and pass it on!
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Ep 51: Turning Toward the Tough Stuff: Dr. Emily Musgrove on Getting Unstuck
Between The Lines – Episode: Unstuck with Dr. Emily Musgrove Ever feel like you're spinning your wheels—stuck in the same old patterns, wishing for change but not sure where to start? This episode is for you! 🎧 Leanne and Chelle sit down with Dr. Emily Musgrove, clinical psychologist and author of "Unstuck," to unpack practical, relatable strategies for moving through life's challenges (without the jargon!). Dr. Emily brings warmth, wisdom, and a refreshing honesty about what it really takes to live by your values—even when life gets messy. In this episode: Why pain is a universal part of being human—and how resisting it can keep us stuck How to use your values as a compass, not a checklist The real reason change feels so hard (spoiler: staying stuck can be even harder!) Parenting truths: breaking old patterns, repairing ruptures, and embracing imperfection The power of self-compassion, mindfulness, and making choices that align with what matters most Dr. Emily's own journey writing "Unstuck" and balancing life as a parent, professional, and author Whether you're a parent, a therapy-curious listener, or just someone looking for a little hope and practical wisdom, you'll walk away with new tools—and a reminder that you're not alone in the hard stuff. ✨ Discussion prompt: What's one value you want to live by more intentionally this week? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! Want more? Grab a copy of "Unstuck" and join our Between The Lines Book Club for ongoing conversations about books that move us—and help us move forward.
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Ep 50: The Elements Series: Crime, Compassion & Cliffhangers - John Boyne's Masterclass in Human Nature
Between The Lines – Episode: The Elements Series: Crime, Compassion & Cliffhangers Ever finish a book and just need to talk about it? Multiply that by four, and you'll get Chelle and Leanne's reaction to John Boyne's "The Elements" series! This week, our hosts dive into "Water," "Earth," "Fire," and "Air"—four compact but powerful novellas that weave together stories of crime, guilt, trauma, and redemption. Boyne's storytelling is masterful: each book stands alone but also connects into a larger, unforgettable tapestry of human experience. The characters—a mother on the run, a rising soccer star, a surgeon with secrets, and a father on a journey of transformation—are complex, flawed, and oh-so-relatable. The result? A reading experience that's both disturbing and deeply moving. In this episode: The unique structure of "The Elements" series and how each novella brings a new perspective Why Boyne's approach to responsibility and redemption feels so real (and sometimes hits a little too close to home) How the books challenge our ideas of good, bad, judgment, and compassion The emotional rollercoaster of connecting with characters who make questionable choices for all-too-human reasons Cliffhangers that will have you reaching for the next book (trust us: buy the whole set!) Why this series is one of Chelle and Leanne's top recommendations—and the kind of stories that linger long after the last page Discussion prompt: Which element—Water, Earth, Fire, or Air—pulled you in the most? Did you find yourself judging or empathizing with the characters? We'd love to hear your thoughts, reactions, and wildest theories—join the conversation on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you're ready for a binge-worthy, emotionally rich reading experience, grab all four novellas and let us know which one you couldn't put down. Spoiler chat is totally encouraged!
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Ep 49: The Let Them Theory: Boundaries, Bold Claims & Being True to You
Between The Lines – Episode: Let Them: Boundaries, Bold Claims & Being True to You Ever wish you could care a little less about what others think? This week, Chelle and Leanne dive into Mel Robbins' buzzy new book, "The Let Them Theory"—a guide that promises to free us from the weight of other people's opinions (and maybe even our own inner critic). But is it really that simple? Our hosts dig into the heart of the "Let Them" concept, exploring both its empowering message and the nuances that come with it—especially for women who are used to putting everyone else first. In this episode: What the "Let Them" theory is all about—and why it's taking over Instagram The good, the bold, and the controversial: from self-acceptance to plagiarism rumors Cultural differences—does "letting them" look different in Australia vs. the US? How to set boundaries without building walls (especially if you have a trauma history) Real talk about self-help claims: can two words really change your life? Chelle and Leanne's personal stories of trying out the "Let Them" mindset in everyday life Why the book might be extra helpful (or a little tricky) for women who carry the emotional load A little food for thought: Is "letting them" always the answer, or do some situations call for speaking up and staying connected? Chelle and Leanne don't shy away from the tough questions—and they want to hear your take! ✨ Discussion prompt: When have you had to "let them"—and how did it feel? Share your story with us on Instagram! PS: Got thoughts on Mel Robbins' other books, like "The Five Second Rule"? Or want us to invite her on the pod? Let us know—your feedback shapes our next reads and guest wish list!
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Ep 48: The Stitch Up: Unpacking Kate Solly's Paradise Heights Tale
Between The Lines – Episode: Paradise Heights Craft Store Stitch Up with Kate Solly What happens when a mother of three, a missing charity store item, and a tight-knit Melbourne community collide? In this episode, Chelle and Leanne welcome back Kate Solly to chat about her latest novel, Paradise Heights Craft Store Stitch Up—a story brimming with humor, heart, and a dash of mystery. Kate takes us behind the scenes of Fleck's world: a mum who feels invisible, yet uses that very invisibility as her detective superpower. Together, we explore how motherhood, neurodivergence, and community all shape Fleck's journey—and why the bonds between women matter more than ever. In this episode: Why feeling invisible as a mum can actually be an advantage (and a detective's secret weapon!) The joy and chaos of balancing writing with motherhood, and how everyday moments spark creativity Honest, positive representation of neurodivergence through Fleck and Trixie's friendship The importance of community, belonging, and the volunteers who keep the craft store running Real-life inspirations from Melbourne's suburbs and why setting matters in storytelling Kate's candid reflections on ADHD, writing routines, and the power of small steps Favorite moments, laugh-out-loud lines, and why "cahoots" might just be the best word ever Discussion prompt: Have you ever felt invisible—or unexpectedly powerful—in your own community? What's one small act of kindness or connection that made a difference for you? Share your story with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you love books that celebrate friendship, neurodivergent joy, and the magic of everyday life, Paradise Heights Craft Store Stitch Up belongs on your TBR pile. Let us know your favorite character or moment—we love hearing from you!
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Ep 47: Healing Through Words: Rachael Coopes on 'The Art of Forgiveness
Guest: Rachael Coopes *Interviewed by Chelle Griffin* Episode Highlights: Introduction to Rachael Coopes: Award-winning actress, writer, and presenter known for her work on Australian television and theater Career Journey: Rachael discusses her path from early acting roles to becoming a multifaceted creative professional Writing Process: Insights into how Rachael approaches scriptwriting and storytelling across different mediums Industry Challenges: Honest conversation about navigating the entertainment industry and overcoming obstacles Current Projects: Discussion of Rachael's latest work and upcoming productions Creative Inspiration: Rachael shares what drives her creativity and where she finds inspiration Advice for Aspiring Creatives: Practical tips for those looking to break into acting and writing
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Ep 46: Five Seasons in Seoul: A Journey Through Culture and Connection with Christine Newell
In this inspiring episode, we chat with author Christine Newell about her beautiful memoir, Five Seasons in Seoul, which chronicles her transformative year living and teaching in South Korea. Christine opens up about the personal challenges that led her to seek a fresh start, her deep cultural immersion, and the powerful impact of Korean traditions—especially the symbolic "five seasons" shaped by Yin and Yang philosophy. She shares how community, kindness, and resilience helped her find healing, purpose, and creative spark. We also explore the emotional journey of writing a memoir, the vulnerability of putting your story on the page, and the surprising ways her time in Seoul has shaped her life and career back in Australia. In this episode, you'll hear about: Why Christine went to South Korea—and how it changed her The meaning behind "Five Seasons" and how it shaped her year abroad Cultural rituals, food, and unexpected moments of connection Grief, growth, and resilience while living far from home The process of writing a memoir and what it's meant to readers Her love of Korean dramas, memoir recommendations, and what's next on her travel list Books Christine recommends: 📚 Breaking Badly by Georgie Dent 📚 True Friends by Patti Miller 📚 Bewildered by Laura Waters Where to find Christine's book: Five Seasons in Seoul is available at most bookstores and online.
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Ep 45: Bridesmaids, Boundaries, and Being Yourself with Rachael Johns
Episode Title: Rachael Johns: The Bad Bridesmaid and the Love of Books Guest: Rachael Johns, Australian Romance Author Key Highlights: Discussion of Rachael's latest book "The Bad Bridesmaid" Insights into her writing process and inspiration Exploration of her love for books and libraries Episode Breakdown: Book Overview Main character: Winnefren (Fred) Darling Setting: Norfolk Island Plot: Fred tries to stop her mother's sixth wedding Inspired by "The Parent Trap" movie concept Writing Journey Started writing at 17 Former English teacher Known as the "Undisputed Queen of Australian Women's Fiction" Book Series Connection Linked to previous book "The Other Bridget" Features characters from the library where Fred works Rachael's Book Club 6,500 members on Facebook Monthly book discussions Annual in-person retreats Focuses on supporting Australian and women writers Personal Insights Loves audiobooks Passionate about libraries and librarian representation Enjoys traveling to research book settings Recommended For: Romance readers, book lovers, fans of Australian fiction Contact/Follow: Website: RachaelJohns.com Facebook: Rachael Johns Book Club Book Club Retreat: rachaeljohnsbookclubretreat.com
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Ep 44: Letting Go: A Deep Dive into Living Untethered by Michael A Singer
Podcast Show Notes: Living Untethered with Michael A. Singer Episode Highlights: Book: Living Untethered: Beyond the Human Predicament Author: Michael A. Singer (New York Times bestselling author) Key Themes: Inner peace, self-realization, mindfulness, and personal growth Episode Overview: Hosts Leanne and Shel dive deep into Michael Singer's latest book, exploring profound insights about: Understanding the universe's complexity Separating oneself from thoughts Practicing meditation and awareness Accepting life's inherent suffering Techniques for personal transformation Notable Quotes: "Resistance creates tension and anxiety, and makes life a burden." "The Spirit can end up hiding in the head if living in the heart is too confronting." "All of life is suffering" - Buddha Practical Takeaways: Start with "low hanging fruit" when practicing letting go Use meditation to create distance from your thoughts Practice being present in the moment Recognize that external things don't define your happiness Recommended Companion Resource: The Untethered Soul Guided Journal: Practices to Journey Beyond Yourself Upcoming Book Club Selections: Current: The Bee Sting (Join by end of May) Next: Dear Digital, We Need to Talk Connect: www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com
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Ep 43: Rebels with Reading Glasses: Clare Pooley on Aging Disgracefully
Podcast Episode: How to Age Disgracefully with Claire Pooley Guest: Claire Pooley, author of "How to Age Disgracefully", "The Authenticity Project", and "People on Platform Five" Episode Highlights: Discussion of Claire's latest novel "How to Age Disgracefully" Exploration of multi-generational connections and community Insights into writing, aging, and finding purpose Key Themes: Breaking stereotypes about aging The importance of community and human connection Humor as a tool for addressing challenging life experiences Book Recommendations: "Margot" by Ruthie Thorpe "The Wedding People" "What Does It Feel Like?" by Sophie Kinsella Claire's Writing Insights: Writes most creatively in early morning Believes in the power of a "triumphant second act" Passionate about challenging ageism and celebrating wisdom Memorable Quote: "Every woman should have a triumphant second act." About the Author: Claire Pooley is a former advertising professional who published her first novel at 50, celebrating diverse characters and unlikely communities in her writing.
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Ep 42: Work, Travel, Thrive: Designing a Bleisure Life with Emma Lovell
In this episode, Emma Lovell discusses her book "The Art of Pleasure" and shares insights on combining work, leisure, and self-care to create a fulfilling lifestyle. Key Highlights: Emma's philosophy of "pleasure life" - traveling the world, making money, and living life on your own terms Strategies for blending business and leisure Importance of work-life harmony over work-life balance Travel experiences and goals (76 countries visited) Practical tips for incorporating more pleasure into daily life Notable Quotes: "It's not about waiting until everything is perfect to live your dream life" "Pleasure is a mindset and a lifestyle, not just a destination" Guest Bio: Emma Lovell is an author, speaker, and coach specializing in helping people design lives that combine work, travel, and personal fulfillment. She has visited 76 countries and continues to explore the world while running her business. Upcoming Travel Plans: Central America trip European tour including Finland, Portugal, and potentially Bulgaria Panama Canal cruise Recommended for listeners interested in: Travel hacking Lifestyle design Work-life integration Personal development
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Ep 41: Sisters in Grief: Navigating Loss and Love in Blue Sisters
In this episode, Leanne Tran and Chelle Griffin dive into Blue Sisters by Coco Mellors - a raw, layered novel about estranged siblings reunited by grief. Following the death of their sister Nikki, Avery, Bonnie, and Lucky return to their childhood home and are forced to confront the complicated ties that bind them. Told from alternating perspectives, Blue Sisters explores themes of identity, sisterhood, and the legacy of family. Leanne and Chelle unpack the emotional weight of the book, share their thoughts on the characters' extreme lives and inner worlds, and reflect on how relatable the story may be for readers with (or without) sisters of their own. Despite mixed reviews from readers and book club members, both hosts recommend the novel for its compelling storytelling and honest look at love, loss, and healing. In this episode, you'll hear about: The power and complexity of sisterhood Each sister's unique journey—addiction, ambition, and grief Family roles, parental influence, and the burden of birth order Romance, resilience, and reinventing yourself after loss Why this book sparks mixed reactions—and why it's still worth the read Movie adaptation potential (and their dream cast picks!) 📖 Blue Sisters is a page-turner with emotional depth—perfect for fans of character-driven family dramas. Let us know what you think! Join the conversation on Instagram or in our online book club.
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Ep 36: All that's left unsaid
Unraveling "All That's Left Unsaid" with Tracey Lien Hosts: Leanne and Chelle Episode Overview: In this episode, Leanne and Chelle delve into "All That's Left Unsaid" by Tracey Lien, a poignant debut novel exploring themes of family, cultural identity, and the aftermath of tragedy. Set in 1996 Cabramatta, the story follows Ki Tran as she returns home to uncover the truth behind her brother's murder. The hosts discuss the book's exploration of Vietnamese Australian culture, the complexities of family obligations, and the struggle to reconcile past and present. Key Discussion Points: Introduction to Tracey Lien and the Book: Introduction of Tracey Lien's debut novel, "All That's Left Unsaid." Background on Tracey Lien, her upbringing in southwestern Sydney, and her career. Book Synopsis: Overview of the plot centered on Ki Tran's quest to understand her brother Denny's murder. The novel's setting in Cabramatta, highlighting the cultural and historical context. Themes and Cultural Exploration: The portrayal of Vietnamese Australian culture and the immigrant experience. Discussion on the cultural pressures and ideals faced by first-generation immigrants. Character Dynamics and Storytelling: Ki Tran's journey as she navigates family dynamics and cultural expectations. The novel's structure, alternating between Ki's perspective and those of the witnesses. Personal Reflections and Relatability: Chelle's personal connections to the Vietnamese Australian community and cultural nuances. Leanne's reflections on the nostalgia and cultural references from the 1990s. Mystery and Unraveling the Past: The book's mystery element as Ki seeks to uncover the truth behind her brother's death. Exploration of themes like guilt, responsibility, and the quest for meaning. Cultural Identity and Generational Tensions: The struggle between embracing new cultural identities and honoring traditional values. The impact of historical events on the characters' lives and choices. Final Thoughts and Recommendations: The hosts express their admiration for Tracey Lien's storytelling and cultural insights. Recommendation for readers interested in exploring diverse cultural narratives and family dynamics. Encouragement for listeners to read the book and engage with its themes.
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