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Beyond Listening

by Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack, Co-Founders of Open Circle

Brought to you by Open Circle: a podcast for leaders and change makers who listen, adapt, and act. With guests from diverse industries, cultures, and political perspectives, and episodes that distill the lessons we’ve learned, and the questions we are still asking, after decades of guiding organizational and personal transformations.Join us on a journey of soul and spirit in leadership and action.Hosted by Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack. For more information visit https://www.weareopencircle.com

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Episodes

  1. E 59: Listening Circles: Regulating Stress and Restoring Connection

    Listening circles are one of the simplest — and most powerful — practices for building connection in groups. But why do they work so well? In this episode, Adam and Miriam explore how listening circles help regulate the nervous system, create psychological safety, and transform group dynamics. In…

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  2. E 58: Women's Wisdom

    In honor of International Women’s Day, we bring you a special episode of the Beyond Listening Podcast. Today, we celebrate the power, resilience, and wisdom of women by hosting five extraordinary guests who have courageously walked their unique paths in the world. Each of these women brings a...

  3. E 57: Women & Men Are Different

    In this episode, Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack dive into why they have chosen to do women and men focused leadership work this year. From examining the dynamics of power and the challenges women face in leadership to the necessity of self-reflection and personal growth, this conversation sheds…

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  4. E 56: Songs from the Wilderness: Atz Kilcher’s Reflections on Returning to Our Roots

    In this chat around the fireside, Atz Kilcher shares his deep connection to music, nature, and the journey of self-acceptance. Reflecting on his childhood, he explores how the wilderness shaped his understanding of himself and the world around him. Atz reveals the therapeutic power of music and…

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  5. E 55: Songs from the Wilderness: Nature, Music, and the Heart of a Veteran: A deep dive with Andrew Wiscombe

    In this heartfelt episode of Beyond Listening, we sit down with veteran and musician Andrew to explore his journey from the military to a powerful career in songwriting. Andrew shares his early roots in punk rock and country music, how music helped him cope with the aftermath of his military...

  6. E 54: Navigating the Unknown: The Art of Guiding Change with Adam and Miriam

    In this episode, Adam and Miriam, co founders of Open Circle, dive deep into the complexities of guiding change, offering practical insights into both horizontal and vertical transformations. They emphasize the critical need for understanding and accepting change, while also exploring the common...

  7. E 53: Breaking Barriers: Adaptive Fitness and Resilient Community Spirit with Kiersten McCartney

    Kiersten McCartney, “Coach K”, the program director and co-founder of Arena Adaptive, shares her journey and passion for engaging people with disabilities in exercise, fitness, and sport. She discusses the origins of her passion and the intentional community-building approach she takes in her…

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  8. E 52: The Impact of Nature on the Brain w/Amy McDonnell, University of Utah Applied Cognition Lab

    In our latest episode, we dive deep into the fascinating world of nature and its profound effects on the brain with Amy McDonnell, a research fellow at the University of Utah Applied Cognition Lab. Meet Our Guest: Amy McDonnell Amy McDonnell brings a wealth of knowledge and experience from her...

  9. E51: Deciding how to Decide with Miriam and Adam

    Deciding how to Decide This conversation between Open Circle Founders, Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack, explores the topic of decision-making and challenges the assumptions we have about how and why decisions are made. It discusses the definition of decisions and power, both at an individual and…

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  10. E50: Purpose, principle, and performance with former Special Ops turned Leadership Coach Phil Kornachuk

    Purpose and values. These simple words hold huge meaning, and potential impact, for how we act in the world. Welcoming a kindred spirit this week, Adam and Brandon are joined by fellow wilderness expedition leader and founder of leadership development organization StoneWater, Phil Kornachuk.…

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  11. E49: A.I., Neuroscience, and the Mystical, with Futurist John Sanei

    How do we become optimistic about uncertainty? The modern world can be scary. AI is making its mark, anxiety levels are rising, and leaders are faced with more uncertainty than ever. Enter John Sanei: futures strategist, bestselling author, international keynote speaker, adviser to Fortune 100...

  12. E47: Conflict and Loving Dangerously with Chad Ford

    Welcome, for a fascinating insight into a truly singular human - international conflict mediator, college professor, senior consultant and facilitator for the Arbinger Institute, and NBA analyst for ESPN, Chad Ford. Chad has experienced a lot personally and professionally, and pours these...

  13. E46: More Than Fitness w/Coach Ellis and Coach Moore

    Resiliency, compassion, community, safe haven, mentorship. These are just some of the fruits of a powerful conversation shared with two committed and inspiring individuals, Coach Ellis and Coach Moore of More Than Fitness. Founded in 2018, More Than Fitness seek to serve the young people of their...

  14. E45: WTH just happened?: Big disruptions and the need for collective integration

    Welcome to a reflection on the process of change. Three years after the pandemic, it’s important to take a step back and take stock. What on earth just happened? And how can we move on? Adam and Miriam fly solo again this week, sharing a candid discussion on how to reintegrate after disruption to...

  15. E44: The 3 Kinds of Trust: w/Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack

    Integrity, capability, commitment. Welcome to a rounded reflection on the role of trust within our communities, organizations and in society as a whole. Trust is a practice, not a skill - a lifelong process of evaluation and maintenance. Sharing reflections on the ‘three kinds of trust’ and the...

  16. E43: The Challenges of Returning From War w/Mike Waldron and Brandon Harding

    We are all one human tribe, travelling on the journey of life together. This message reveals itself as central to today’s discussion between Adam, Brandon Harding and guest Mike Waldron, founder of 23rd Veteran. Speaking candidly on his own experiences as a young adult in the Marine Corps, Mike...

  17. E42: Education as Revolution: w/ Roblin Webb of Freedom Prep Charter Schools

    Joining us for a moving discussion on race, class and the power of education is Roblin Webb, Founder and CEO at Freedom Prep School in Tennessee. Roblin J. Webb, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Freedom Prep Charter Schools, has dedicated her life’s work to striving for equality for all...

  18. E41: Mental and Physical Toughness for the Backcountry: w/ Dustin Diefenderfer of MTNTough

    Outdoors is where the magic happens. Today we welcome Dustin Diefenderfer, the founder of MTNTough Fitness Labs. A passionate advocate for the power of the outdoors to renew and develop our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual wellbeing, our discussion with Dustin reveals a passion for...

  19. E40: Wellness in The Wild w/Brandon Harding

    “There is wellness to be found in the wild.” Our circle today sees hosts Adam and Miriam joined by Brandon Harding, our Wilderness program director. With a series of co-facilitated wilderness trips planned for 2023 and 2024, today’s conversation gives an insight into the topics, themes and...

  20. E39: Trust, Trauma and Reality w/Mark Matzeldelaflor, Former US Navy Seal

    Community is build on collaboration, creativity and trust. Our guest today is Mark Matzeldelaflor, a former Navy Seal and founder of Guardian Grange, a veteran-powered regenerative agriculture and healing network. He shares thoughts from his journey, unfolding a life which has navigated themes of...

  21. E38: How To Share Your Voice Compassionately w/Pranidhi Varshney

    Intersectionality, nuance, integrity, compassion, presence. These key tenets rise to the surface in our conversation with dear friend Pranidhi Varshney. The founder of Yoga Shala West, a community-supported Ashtanga Yoga studio in West LA, Pranidhi shares experiences from her personal life, her...

  22. E37: Fostering Community and Social Equity

    Fostering community takes perseverance. Today we welcome Orion Kriegman, Executive Director with the Boston Food Forest Coalition. Orion’s journey in life has shown him the depth of global social inequity and instilled in him a desire to be the change. Recounting experiences volunteering as a...

  23. E36: The Yogic Journey w/James Boag

    How can we practically connect with our animating spirit? Walking us through the process is today's guest and yogic thinker, James Boag. We discuss the restrictive quality of our school systems and habits, experiencing invention as discovery and the power of circle practice to foster...

  24. E35: The Soul and Spirit of Leadership w/Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack

    Conventional descriptions of leadership often miss a piece - the dual components of Soul and Sprit. Our hosts Adam Rumack and Miriam Jones dive into what they describe as one of the ‘most magical and mystical parts of their work’. Reflecting on their experiences of leadership in life, the...

  25. E34: Science, Enchantment and Interconnection with Dr Joseph Cambray

    What lives on the overlap of hard science, Jungian psychology and enchantment? Dr Joseph Cambray is the former Harvard Medical School faculty who has spent decades answering that question. With remarkable insight, Joseph breaks down enchantment, disruption and coincidence and takes us through how...

  26. E33: DreamSeeDo: Nurturing Fulfillment in Business

    Soulmates come in different shapes and sizes. Enter Josh Schwartzman and Jeremy Berman - business soulmates. Having met at Hackathon, the duo founded DreamSeeDo with a simple mission: to unlock human potential. Document the challenge of progressing a business while staying true to their values,...

  27. E32: Sovereign Bodies: Durability vs. resilience and how to be capable of more

    Can you train resilience? Today's episode features Raven Aäe; a hunter, ultra runner, meditator and founder of coaching school Magnetic North. Raven discusses her experience founding a coaching school, shattering societal expectations whilst pregnant and striving for solitude in the wilderness....

  28. E31: Hunting, Ethics and Conservation - Joel Strimling on the complexity of hunting

    Why is it that we hunt? And how does it interface with Conservation? Today we welcome Joel Strimling, board member of Oregon Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA). Joel spent his childhood outdoors but adopted a hunting lifestyle as an adult - experiencing initial trepidation grow into a…

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  29. E30: Café Gratitude: the compassionate guide to growing a global brand

    What are the mechanics of gratitude? And how do we practically recognise abundance? Today we are thrilled to welcome Terces and Matthew Engelhart onto the show. Authors, co-founders of Café Gratitude and creators of The Abounding River Board Game, Terces and Matthew are fascinating examples of…

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  30. E29: Overturning our Immunity to Change with Deb Helsing, Ed.D.

    Why do we fail to achieve the most important high-stakes changes that our lives demand and that we desire? According to the Immunity to Change approach to human development, it is because we have a sub-conscious "immune system" of competing commitments and assumptions that make those changes…

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  31. E28: DEI, Engagement, and Org Health: Beyond the Symptoms w/Julie Diamond, PhD.

    "Culture feels squishy to a lot of people. It is squishy and hard to quantify. When you look at visible and observable behaviors - how people show up - you start to get data that gives you an organizational diagnosis of where and why people are experiencing the organization. Culture is often...

  32. E27: The Value of Culture: Basecamp to Summit w/ Miriam Jones & Adam Rumack

    In this episode, we kick-off a three part series, where we will be looking at the value of culture amidst structural change and strategic growth, and the false separation between culture and strategy. Adam Rumack and Miriam Joy Jones discuss how they assess cultural ecosystems with clients…

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  33. E26: Inter-generational Vision: Where do we go from here?

    The chaos and confusion of systems collapsing and the dramatic change all around the world, is a call for a broader array of ideas to envision a new way forward. This episode of the Beyond Listening podcast is part of our Getting to Know You Series where we gather a diverse group of people from...

  34. E25: How to Fix the Unfixable, When Trust is Broken, with Dr. Wendy Fraser

    In this episode of the Beyond Listening podcast, we hear from Dr. Wendy Fraser about the research she captured in her book: Trust Repair: It is Possible! Learn about: psychological safety, mending group conflict, conversational competence, and the journey of trust repair in both personal...

  35. E:24: From Reggae Bands to Marketing Tech: Finding Rhythm Together - with Jeff Eckman, Founder of Blue Green

    In Episode 24, we hear from Jeff Eckman, Founder and CEO of Blue Green, about creative conflict, and multiplying love through business. Jeff earned his BS in Operations Technology at Northeastern University, and holds an MBA from the MIT Sloan School of Management. Jeff lives in Belmont,...

  36. E23: Connection Sustains Us and Forgiveness as Peacemaking: w/ Renee and Manny Iron Hawk

    In this episode of the Beyond Listening Podcast, First Nations Leaders Renee and Manny Iron Hawk share stories around reconciliation, healing identity issues, and cycles of conflict. They speak to the significance of righting the wrongs of violence, and acknowledging the genocide, historical...

  37. E22: Black, White and In Between

    A dialogue of reconciling patterns of oppression, shame and silencing. What is it to acknowledge our experience of color and go beyond the trauma and the triggers to a conversation of the human soul, and to carry together the legacy of hurt, oppression, shame and silencing? To step past political...

  38. E21: Don't Make Mistakes, Make Experiments

    In this episode of the Beyond Listening Podcast, Miriam and Adam (co-founders of We are Open Circle and hosts of the Beyond Listening Podcast) reflect on the value of their mistakes with real-life examples. They share reflections on how valuing mistakes can lead us towards avoiding the pain of...

  39. E20: Getting to Know You: The Art of Listening

    The way we listen forms the way we understand the world. In this session of the Getting to Know You series, we explore different perspectives on The Art of Listening, and how it shapes our actions. This month's featured storytellers are: Dr. Tjanara Goreng Goreng is a Wakka Wakka Wulli Wulli...

  40. E19: Part 2: A Family of Activists- From the Inside Out, with Eileen Cooper Reed and India Martin

    In Part 2 with Eileen and India, we continue the journey through the territory of discrimination, race and equity- exploring personal and professional stories of societal and organizational transformation. Eileen Cooper Reed is a change maker and advocate. Her entire adult life has been dedicated...

  41. E18: Part 1, A Family of Activists- From the Inside Out, with Eileen Cooper Reed and India Martin

    In this first episode of a two part series with Eileen and India, we explore the cross section of family, race, culture, and gender in the forming and reforming of identity. India and Eileen traverse across the broad territory of community, control, the fear of our own power, and transforming...

  42. E17: Trauma, Ritual, and Belonging in the Marine Corps, with Navy Chaplain Brandon Harding

    In this episode, we hear from Commander Brandon Harding, about military culture, belonging, initiation, and moving beyond the assumptions that keep us disconnected, stuck, and suffering. Brandon Harding is a military chaplain and relationship coach with two decades of experience. His passion is…

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  43. E16: Reimagining Real Estate's Regenerative Potential, with Alissa Collins

    In this episode we hear from Alissa Collins, co-founder of Latitude Regenerative Real Estate. Alissa’s passion is centered on the reconnection of people to nature. She is guided by the lens of Spiritual Ecology—the intersection between spirituality, ecology, and culture—and brings this ethos into...

  44. E15: Anarchism, Capitalism, and Our Core Wounds at Work, with Ari Weinzweig

    In this episode we hear from Ari Weinzweig, world recognized CEO for his unique leadership style, about the freedom to choose, the spirit of generosity, and honoring the discomfort of difficult questions. Ari Weinzweig is CEO and co-founding partner of Zingerman's Community of Businesses, which...

  45. E14: Brain Software for a New Civilization with Gregor Maehle

    In this episode, Miriam and Adam hear from Gregor Maehle, yoga teacher and scholar, about laughing at your own authority, listening to the mystery, spirituality as a community practice, and more. Gregor Maehle began his yogic practices 40 years ago. Together with his wife, Monica, in 1996 he...

  46. E13: Black Guns Matter: Arming America, Leading with Empathy - a conversation about freedom, guns, racism, and justice with Maj Toure

    In this episode of the Beyond Listening Podcast, Miriam and Adam host Maj Toure, freedom fighter and founder of Black Guns Matter. Black Guns Matter (BGM) educates people, especially youth, in urban communities in all 50 states on their 2nd amendment rights and responsibilities through safe and...

  47. E12: A Candid Conversation on Civics and Political Life with Christopher Arlen

    In this episode, Miriam and Adam speak with Christopher Arlen, who offers an unguarded expository review on his unique life experience, his burning passion for civics, and on being a good neighbor. Christopher shares stories from his early experiences working to educate and support communities...

  48. E11: Unleashing a Whole New Way of Thinking with Bill Donius

    In this episode, Miriam and Adam speak with Bill Donius about how to access an intelligence that can take us to a whole new way of understanding and world of creativity. Bill Donius, former banker and CEO, drove his bank’s eightfold growth over twelve years. And the surprising secret to his…

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  49. E10: Self Transforming Organizations with Adam Rumack and Miriam Jones

    In this episode, Adam & Miriam tackle the issue of change fatigue, so prevalent now in so many people and organizations. They discuss what it means to develop a self transforming organization, an organization that is designed to ride the waves of constant and collective change. Between them…

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  50. E9: Archetypes, Depth Psychotherapy and Wholeness with Betsy Perluss Ph.D.

    In this episode, Adam & Miriam connect with Betsy Perluss, Ph.D. to talk about archetypes, depth psychotherapy, moving towards wholeness, and much more. Betsy is a licensed marriage and family therapist (MFT 32191), professional clinical counselor (LPCC 766) and credentialed school counselor. Her...

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Brought to you by Open Circle: a podcast for leaders and change makers who listen, adapt, and act. With guests from diverse industries, cultures, and political perspectives, and episodes that distill the lessons we’ve learned, and the questions we are still asking, after decades of guiding organizational and personal transformations.Join us on a journey of soul and spirit in leadership and action.Hosted by Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack. For more information visit https://www.weareopencircle.com

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Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack, Co-Founders of Open Circle

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