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Beyond Prisons
by Beyond Prisons
Beyond Prisons is a podcast on justice, mass incarceration, and prison abolition. Hosted by @phillyprof03 & @bsonenstein
Episodes
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When Treatment Comes at the Cost of Freedom
In this episode I sat down with Natasha Baker, Supervising Attorney for Litigation and Policy at UnCommon Law, to examine a deeply troubling issue unfolding inside California prisons: the use of flawed drug test results to deny people parole. We start with the basics — what the…
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in-Care-Ceration Episode 5: Prisons
In this episode we talk about mental and physical healthcare in Washington's prisons. We speak with Tony Tyson, Queen J, and Darnell Jones, all incarcerated voices in our state, who talk to us about accessing care in prison, and also what they or the people around them have done to get or create...
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In-Care-Ceration Episode 6: Care Reform, Care Otherwise
In this episode we explore ways that people are working to build a more caring and care-full world, and to address the harms of our carceral systems whether they are prisons, jails, or hospitals. Some of the people we talk to are interested in engaging with Washington State to change systems, and...
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In-Care-Ceration Episode 3: Civil Commitment
In this episode, we take on the topic of civil commitment and experience. We address hospitalization, the emergency room, and the perspectives of people who work in the system and who receive treatment. We address ways that civil commitment resembles incarceration. We speak to SYP and Laura Van...
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In-Care-Ceration Episode 4: Jails
In this episode we talk about mental health in jails – what mental health care looks like in jails, how people with disabilities navigate and experience jail, and how activists and organizers have addressed the mental health crisis in urban jails in Washington. We speak with Jordan Landry, Tony...
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In-Care-Ceration Episode 1: Entanglements
In episode one, we introduce this series' central questions: what do the mental health system and the criminal legal system have to do with one another? More to the point, how is improving care in Washington contributing to the expansion of jails, prisons and other spaces of confinement? We frame...
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In-Care-Ceration Episode 2: Forensic Commitment
In this episode, we take on forensic commitment, the psychiatric commitment of those who are facing criminal charges but are legally considered not competent to stand trial We unpack how the jail and state hospital systems are connected with each other through forensic commitment, and how there…
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Introduction to In-Care-Ceration: A Podcast
In-care-ceration is a documentary podcast about how Washington's so-called mental health system is entangled with the carceral system. How do people in need of mental health care end up losing their freedom, whether in a hospital, jail, or prison? How do these institutions care for people? Do…
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A Continuous Struggle: The Revolutionary Life of Martin Sostre feat. Garrett Felber
For this episode I sat down with Garrett Felber to talk about their new book, A Continuous Struggle: The Revolutionary Life of Martin Sostre. The book is described by Dr. Orisanmi Burton, author of Tip of the Spear, as "A rigorous examination of Sostre's revolutionary life that offers vital…
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Lessons from the Garden: Circle Keeping and Restorative Justice feat. Jennifer Viets
In this episode I sat down with the amazing Jennifer Viets for a conversation about her work as a restorative justice practitioner in Chicago. We begin by talking about Jennifer's experience with being a grandmother including pushing back against societal expectations, how her work shifted from...
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For a Livable Future: Building Movements to Stop War & Save the Planet
Welcome to episode three of "Over the Wall: The Abolitionist Hour with Critical Resistance." For listeners new to Beyond Prisons or our collaboration with Critical Resistance, this is a new, regular series that premiered in September of 2023. Hosted by members of Critical Resistance's The...
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Lessons from the Garden: We Don't Have to Learn Through Suffering feat. Anya Tanyavutti
For this episode Kim sat down with long-time educator and organizer, Anya Tanyavutti for a conversation about her contribution titled "Shelter and Shower Toward Abolition: A Reflection on Collective Care, Reproductive Justice, and Educational Justice." Anya Tanyavutti has 25 years of experience...
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The Kansas City Defender feat. Ryan Sorrell
Kim sits down with Ryan Sorrell, founder of the Kansas City Defender, for a conversation about what motivated him to start a media organization, his early days as a content creator covering community and cultural events with his childhood friend and collaborator, and the influences of the radical...
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Lessons from the Garden: Some Dad Shit feat. Dylan Rodriguez
Dylan Rodriguez joins Kim for a conversation about respecting his children's autonomous voice, why he named his Fantasy Football team "Uncle Dylan Never Lies," and what that has to do with abolitionist parenting. Dylan shares why he believes that caregivers and parents must take children's...
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Free the Mississippi Five feat. Garrett Felber
Garrett Felber joins Kim for a conversation about the campaign to Free the Mississippi Five. The #MS5 are five women in Mississippi sentenced to life with the possibility of parole in the 1980s and 1990s. They have been incarcerated over 175 years and denied parole 47 times. Lisa Crevitt, Anita...
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Lessons From The Garden: Happiness Is Not A Good Goal feat. Sarah Tyson
Sarah Tyson joins Kim for a spirited conversation about her suspicions about happiness and the intellectual underpinnings that inform why happiness is not a worthy goal in general, but specifically for her children. Sarah and Kim talk about how the work of Sarah Ahmed helps us to understand why…
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Lessons From The Garden: Practicing Vulnerability feat. Susana Victoria Parras & Alejandro Villalpando
Susana Victoria Parras & Alejandro Villalpando join Kim to discuss how, through a continued practice of communal study, they are able to renew their commitment to each other, their child, and to their community in ways that are generative and don't engage in disposability politics or…
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Introducing: Lessons From The Garden
Beyond Prisons is excited to announce the launch of a special new series titled 'Lessons from the Garden,' where Kim Wilson will be interviewing contributors to the forthcoming anthology that she co-edited with Maya Schenwar, We Grow the World Together: Parenting Toward Abolition. We Grow The…
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Making Movement Media feat. Chuck Modiano
Kim is joined by long-time independent journalist Chuck Modiano for a conversation about movement media making, the importance of media literacy, and the intersection of sports and politics. Kim and Chuck begin by talking about what motivated him to start covering protests. He opens up about how…
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Snuffing Out Revolution: Control Units & Resistance
Welcome to episode two of "Over the Wall: The Abolitionist Hour with Critical Resistance." For listeners new to Beyond Prisons or our collaboration with Critical Resistance, this is a new, regular series that premiered in September of 2023. Hosted by members of Critical Resistance's The...
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Certain Days
Josh Davidson and Leslie James Pickering from the Certain Days collective join the show to talk about 2024's Certain Days: Freedom for Political Prisoners calendar and the work of their collective. We previously spoke with Josh and other folks from the collective back in 2020 and we encourage you...
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Beyond Abortion: Reproductive Justice & Abolitionist Struggle
This is the first episode of our new series titled "Over the Wall: The Abolitionist Hour with Critical Resistance." This will be a regular series on Beyond Prisons, hosted by members of Critical Resistance's The Abolitionist Editorial Collective, in which they will discuss articles and key...
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Penitence for the privileged
CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussions of sexual violence. Kim and Brian discuss Mark E. Kann's "Penitence for the Privileged: Manhood, Race, and Penitentiaries in Early America." This essay is a chapter in the book Prison Masculinities, edited by Don Sabo, Terry A. Kupers, and Willie...
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Prison Librarians
For this episode, Kim sat down with Jeanie Austin, a Bay Area librarian and academic who focuses on library services for incarcerated people, and Sarah ball, a New York City public librarian working inside jails and prisons providing access to books and information for criminalized and…
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Six Years of Beyond Prisons (Epilogue)
In this follow-up to our six-year anniversary episode, Kim shares some of what she has been going through in recent years. We recommend you listen to that previous episode before listening to this one. You can support Kim on Cash App at https://cash.app/$BeyondPrisons Credits Created and hosted…
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Six Years of Beyond Prisons
April marks 6 years of Beyond Prisons! Thank you so much to everyone who has listened to the show and supported us over the years. In this episode, Kim and Brian reflect on their work and their lives over the past several years. They discuss everything from their favorite episodes to how they…
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CI Toolkit: Perspectives On Interventions feat. Mimi Kim & Shira Hassan
This is the third episode in our Creative Interventions series, where we explore this fantastic and practical toolkit for stopping interpersonal violence and speak with some of the people whose organizing efforts directly informed it. We speak with Mimi Kim and Shira Hassan once again, this time...
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Close California Prisons feat. Brian Kaneda & Woods Ervin
Brian Kaneda and Woods Ervin join the show to tell us about the Close California Prisons Campaign. This campaign is led by the statewide coalition known as Californians United For A Responsible Budget (CURB), pressuring Governor Gavin Newsom and the California Department of Correction to close...
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CI Toolkit: What Does Interpersonal Violence Look Like? feat. Mimi Kim & Shira Hassan
This is the second episode in our Creative Interventions series, where we explore this fantastic and practical toolkit for stopping interpersonal violence and speak with some of the people whose organizing efforts directly informed it. We speak with Mimi and Shira Hassan about the basics of...
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How We Work Matters: Reflections From A Burned Out Organizer
The following talk was delivered by Dr. Kim Wilson at the DecARcerate Arkansas 2022 conference in Little Rock. The conference was an opportunity for abolitionist and other organizers to come together to listen as speakers from around the state and the country talked about their work. Kim...
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What Is The Creative Interventions Toolkit? feat. Mimi Kim & Rachel Herzing
This is the first episode of our Creative Interventions series. In this series, we will explore the Creative Interventions Toolkit, which provides tools, resources, and a model for community interventions in interpersonal violence. We'll go section-by-section and talk to some of the folks whose...
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Panel: Why Physical Mail In Prison Matters
This is the audio version of a panel discussion hosted on March 24 that explores the importance of physical mail in prison and how the prison industrial complex works to undermine imprisoned people's ability to meaningfully communicate with their loved ones. You can watch video of the panel here:...
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Delaware's Draconian Mail Policy feat. Monica Cosby
In this episode, Kim sits down with Monica Cosby to talk about the draconian policy in the Delaware Department of Corrections to end all physical mail sent to prisoners. Join us to take action on Friday, March 18, 2022, and on Monday through Wednesday, March 21-23, 2022. Details at:...
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How We Stay Free feat. Christopher R. Rogers & YahNé Ndgo
Christopher R. Rogers and YahNé Ndgo join us for a wide ranging conversation grounded in the book "How We Stay Free: Notes On A Black Uprising." This anthology, which was published by Common Notions and edited by our guest Christopher as well as Fajr Muhammad, and the Paul Robeson House & Museum,...
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Community Is The Antidote To Policing feat. Geo Maher
This is a companion episode to our interview with Geo Maher. If you haven't listened to that yet, you may want to put this on hold and check that conversation out first. Kim Wilson and Geo Maher dive deep into Chapter 5 of his book, A World Without Police: How Strong Communities Make Cops…
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A World Without Police feat. Geo Maher
Geo Maher joins us to discuss his new book, "A World Without Police: How Strong Communities Make Cops Obsolete." We touch on a number of subjects, including the context in which the book was written, cops and labor unions, and how Geo's experiences in Venezuela influenced his work. We also touch…
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Holding Change feat. adrienne maree brown
In this episode, adrienne maree brown discusses her recent book: Holding Change: The Way of Emergent Strategy Facilitation and Mediation. We talk about the structure of the book, Black feminist wisdom, breathwork as a facilitation practice, the importance of setting boundaries, the need to remain...
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The Abolitionist Newspaper feat. Woods Ervin & Rory Elliott
Rory Elliott and Woods Ervin from Critical Resistance's newspaper, The Abolitionist, join the show for a wide-ranging conversation on abolitionist media. According to their website, The Abolitionist, sometimes lovingly referred to as The Abbey, "launched in the spring of 2005 as a bilingual...
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Beyond Solitary #2: Kwame Shakur on Revolution and Reactionary Reformism
In the second episode of our series, Beyond Solitary, Kwame Shakur joins the show to talk about the need to develop inside-out revolutionary strategy, and the work already being done with that goal in mind by organizations like I.D.O.C. Watch, Prison Lives Matter, and the New Afrikan Liberation...
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Beyond Solitary: 25 Years In The Indiana Prison Movement feat. Shaka Shakur
Beyond Solitary series | Episode 1 In the first episode of our new series, "Beyond Solitary," Shaka Shakur talks about the history of the prison movement in Indiana, and how the movement has evolved and responded to consistent repression from the carceral state. This is the first of two episodes...
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TRAILER: Introducing Beyond Solitary
Beyond Prisons Editor Ellis Maxwell introduces a new series called "Beyond Solitary," exploring solitary confinement as a site of struggle and featuring interviews with currently and formerly incarcerated people and their loved ones. In recent years, due to tireless work from individuals and...
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Interrupting Criminalization feat. Andrea Ritchie
Andrea Ritchie joins the show to talk about her research with the group Interrupting Criminalization, specifically their new report looking back on the "Defund the Police" demand in 2020. Interrupting Criminalization describes itself as an initiative that aims to interrupt and end the growing...
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COVID-19 Dispatch: Soledad Family Roundtable
Four women with loved ones incarcerated at the Correctional Training Facility in Soledad, CA join the Beyond Prisons podcast to talk about how prison officials are failing to respond to the pandemic. Their names are Mary, Dawn, Crystal, and Alice. Nearly a year into this crisis, these women...
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COVID-19 Dispatch: The Crisis At Soledad
Brian Sonenstein interviews a woman we're calling "Alice" to protect her and her family from retaliation from California prison officials. Alice was on Beyond Prisons in April 2020 to discuss the situation facing people enduring the pandemic while incarcerated at the Correctional Training…
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Study And Struggle feat. Garrett Felber
Garrett Felber joins the Beyond Prisons podcast to discuss Study and Struggle, which he helped launch in 2020 as "a bilingual political education program on abolition and immigrant justice which supports and collaborates with grassroots organizations in Mississippi." (NOTE: This episode was...
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In Defense Of Looting Feat. Vicky Osterweil
Vicky Osterweil joins the Beyond Prisons podcast to discuss her new book, "In Defense Of Looting: A Riotous History Of Uncivil Action." Our wide-ranging conversation includes Vicky's analysis of the claim that "real" and legitimate protests are nonviolent by nature, while rioting and looting...
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Challenging E-Carceration Feat. James Kilgore
In this episode, Kim and Brian sit down with James Kilgore, a formerly incarcerated activist, researcher, and author based in Urbana, Illinois. Our conversation addressed a number of issues relating to e-carceration. We pushed back against the idea that electronic monitoring is better than prison...
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Prison By Any Other Name Feat. Maya Schenwar and Victoria Law
Beyond Prisons welcomes back Maya Schenwar and Victoria Law to discuss their new book, Prison By Any Other Name: The Harmful Consequences Of Popular Reforms. The book provides a comprehensive and thought-provoking critical analysis of popular reforms to policing and incarceration, such as...
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An Abolitionist Focus Is A Feminine Focus Feat. Dr. Venezia Michalsen
Kim Wilson is joined by Dr. Venezia Michalsen for a conversation about her research on women's experiences with the criminal punishment system on the Beyond Prisons podcast. Their conversation, which was recorded in February, touches on how women are impacted differently by the system than men…
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Dylan Rodríguez, Part II: Police Accountability Is Casualty Management
This is the second part of our two-part conversation with Dr. Dylan Rodríguez. If you haven't already, listen to part one. In this episode, Dylan shares a few thoughts about high profile reformers like Van Jones and the dangers of the non-profit industrial complex (NPIC). We also talk about "The...
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