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Beyond Stocks
by Chihiro G Kurokawa and Pedro DeLeon, Jr.
Did you know that most American companies are privately held and that trillions of dollars in business assets are changing hands in today’s retirement boom? Or that private investments in real estate, commodities, notes, and technology can offer cash flow and growth—without the rollercoaster ride of the stock market?This podcast is intended for high income earners who want to go BEYOND STOCKS (and bonds) to learn about the world of private offerings and alternative investments. Learn more at www.beyond-stocks.com
Episodes
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Debt Fund Secrets Revealed w/ Dave Kotter of Integrity Capital - S. 4 Ep. 1
Summary In this conversation, Chihiro and guest David Kotter delveinto the concept of hybrid debt funds, exploring their structure, benefits, and the unique opportunities they present for accredited investors. David explains how these funds blend traditional debt with equity upside participation,...
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Is This a Resilient Asset Class? Class-A Self Storage with Garland Benton-Season 3 Episode 10
Summary In this episode of Beyond Stocks, host Chihiro Kurokawa interviews Garland Benton from Direct Equity Source, who shares insights into the self-storage investment sector. As with many asset classes, in an industry of this size, not all self storage facilities are the same. Garland's firm...
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How do lawyers approach deals? w/ Haroon Cheema S3 Episode 9
A conversation with Haroon M. Cheema, a seasoned international tax attorney, discussing the complexities of cross-border taxation, investment structures, and tax incentives. He's done many deals, so he has thoughts on what you should look out for when considering an investment. Haroon shares his...
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Bitcoin Mining with Cory Rodriguez of NfN8 - S3 E8
In this episode of the Beyond Stocks show, Chihiro Kurokawa interviews Cory Rodriguez, a crypto and Bitcoin mining expert. They discuss the evolution of mining technology, the unique business model of NFN8, and the competitive landscape of Bitcoin mining. Cory explains the risks associated with...
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Navigating the VC Landscape - James Wang of Mimosa Ventures - S. 3 Ep. 7
In this conversation, Chihiro interviews James Wang from Mimosa Ventures, exploring his journey into venture capital, the differences between angel investing and venture capital, and the current state of the VC ecosystem. They discuss the impact of AI on various industries, particularly…
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What's going on with Multifamily? - S3 E6
In this conversation, Pedro De Leon asks Chihiro Kurokawa for the details from his journey in multifamily investments, discussing the reasons behind his choice of this asset class, his first experiences, and the current state of the market. He highlights the challenges faced in today's…
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Is Private Credit the next 2008? Pedro & Chihiro Discuss - Season 3 Episode 5
In this episode of the Beyond Stocks Podcast, Pedro and Chihiro dive into the world of Private Credit — exploring how it has evolved since the Great Recession of the late 2000s and what investors need to watch out for today. After 2008, new regulations forced traditional banks to tighten lending...
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From Passive Investor to Running Deals | Nic Espanet on Beyond Stocks-Season 3 Episode 4
What You'll Learn In this episode of the Beyond Stocks Podcast, we sit down with Nic Espanet — multifamily investor, syndicator, and host of the FLEX Forward Podcast. Nic shares his journey from being a passive investor to leading large multifamily syndications, managing thousands of doors, and...
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Be Greedy When Others Are Fearful - John Bullman from LGT Advisors-Season 3 Episode 3
Most investors have heard Buffett's expression about being greedy when others are fearful. But knowing it and doing it are entirely different. John Bullman is the Chief Investment Officer at LGT Financial Advisors, and he has decades of investment experience including 15 years at a leading family...
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This guy went from day job to Accredited Investor - Season 3 Episode 2
Jared Benson with Clotine Capital is our favorite kind of investor. He started with a regular job like most other people, but at the young age of 25 he made his first investment into a private offering. He's also tried his hand in multiple businesses as an entrepreneur but wisely concluded that…
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Keith Blackborg of Financial Journey Season 3 Episode 1
Keith Blackborg and his wife Jessica did well with their businesses and real estate investing, but they eventually faced existential questions like "Why are we still doing this?" They sold their assets and took a three year vacation, after which they formed Financial Journey. FJ serves...
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What's Angel Investing? - Season 2 Episode 10
Today our guest is Jeff Murphy from North Texas Angel Network. NTAN is a network of dozens of accredited investors who invest in early stage startups. They regularly meet in Dallas Fort Worth to listen to pitches from startups that are raising capital. The group setting helps investors consider...
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How to Grow Wealth Outside of Wall St. - Season 2 Episode 9
A lot of people have the means but not the awareness to invest outside of the traditional system of stocks, bonds, mutual funds, asset managers, financial advisors etc. What if you could learn about how people invest directly into projects, cutting out all those middlemen? Pedro and Chihiro also…
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Oil & Gas Investing Expert Tim Pawul - Season 2 Episode 8
Did you know that the United States is the world's leading oil producer? The #2 producer (Saudi Arabia) produces less than half of what the US does. With energy being such a large part of the US economy, it's no wonder that there are many private investment opportunities in oil. Tim Pawul is an...
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Should you invest Actively or Passively? - Season 2 Episode 7
In this episode, Pedro and Chihiro discuss an important consideration for people new to alts. Active investing is a job. Whether it's a stock trading strategy, buying a business through ETA or running a commercial real estate deal, it's a major time and capital investment and significantly…
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Easier Access to Private Markets Coming Soon? - Season 2 Episode 6
Days ago, Bill Alpert of Barron's published an article claiming that by the end of 2026, Americans may have broad access to Alts through IRAs and 401ks. We discuss topics such as: Will offerings be limited to mega asset managers or will smaller-scale offerings be available? What will fee…
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In-Person Networking...Poorly?! - Season 2 Episode 5
Chihiro and Pedro like to attend and host in-person events in Dallas-Fort Worth. When we host, we are thoughtful about who we invite, and our events are not open to the public. But last week, that guy showed up and he had a me-first mentality, seeking capital for his business. We won't invite him...
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How do I get into Alt Investing? - Season 2 Episode 4
The thing about alt investments is that they are generally found through private offerings. By definition, they're harder to find than stocks on Robin Hood or E-Trade. So how do you find them? Well, you can start by joining the Beyond Stocks journey to learn what to look for, and what kind of…
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What is Alternative Investing? - S. 2 Ep. 3
What are Alts??? In short, traditional investing refers to well-known financial instruments such as stocks, bonds, ETFs, mutual funds. Alts are everything else! Categories of Alts include business investing (private equity), commercial real estate, crypto, commodities, non-bank lending (private...
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Secrets of Real Estate Development with James Ellis - S. 2 Ep. 2
James Ellis is the CEO of Arundel Group Holdings, a vertically integrated firm that designs, engineers and builds commercial real estate. James has over 4 decades of experience so he has learned what does and doesn't work in real estate development. Hear stories such as: How building on a former...
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Advanced LP Investing (Personal Seat Licenses!) with Thien Bui-Season 2 Ep. 1
In Season 1 Episode 10 last week Pedro and Chihiro talked about finding somebody who has invested in Personal Seat Licenses. Well, we found Thien Bui! He has an inspiring immigrant story and shares how he went from being a schoolteacher to starting an energy business. He grew...
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What did we do this week? - Episode 10
Last week we: 1. Attended a public hearing for The Sunset Amphitheatre, a 20,000 seat live music venue that just broke ground in McKinney, Texas. We attended because it's an exciting development for our city, but also because they're offering an interesting investment wherein people can buy...
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Two Current Themes in Alts - Episode 9
Pedro and Chihiro discuss a recent report from JP Morgan (linked below) and focus on two themes in particular. 1. The persistent US housing shortage will create investment opportunities. While we agree about the long term, there's still potential for significant short term capital displacement...
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Diversify with Alternatives ft. Ron Glasgow - Episode 8
Ron Glasgow is a Certified Financial Planner and founder of GlasgowInvestments.com. We brought him on the show to discuss how many of his clients diversify into alternative investments via Delaware Statutory Trusts. DSTs are vehicles for passive investment that provide many of the tax benefits of...
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M&A Deals with Dan Olsen from NOW CFO - Episode 7
Pedro & Chihiro speak with Dan Olsen, who provides CFO services through his company NOW CFO. He has years of transactional experience and has seen great deals and terrible deals! His insights are valuable for people considering an investment in a deal that involves any mergers or acquisitions. If...
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Pedro & Chihiro discuss: WHY ALTS? - Episode 6
Pedro and Chihiro get together to discuss: - Recent new guidance from the SEC that can make it easier for certain types of people to invest - Why Pedro and Chihiro got interested in alternative investments - What an accredited investor is, and why it matters Pedro De Leon, Jr. and Chihiro…
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Tax Tips for Alts Investors-with Vince Porter, CPA-Episode 5
Wouldn't it be great if you could talk to a tax expert about what to look for and what to avoid as an alternatives investor? We got a chance to do that with Vince Porter, the CEO of Porter & Company CPAs. Many don't realize that CPAs are specialized, and if you're a Limited Partner ("LP") in...
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Turn Ideas into Wealth with Alexia Tuttle-Episode 4
Alexia and her husband Chris have run Tuttle Nutrition for over ten years, building on their bodybuilding experience to providing coaching and lasting health transformations. Alexia is also the founder of Tuttle Equity, through which she has acquired and transformed multifamily properties....
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Banking Secrets with Evelyn Zermeño-Episode 3
Yes, opening up a business is an alternative investment! Evelyn Zermeño has over a decade of experience lending to businesses. Bank debt is the ultimate enabler. Without business loans it's much more difficult for entrepreneurs to start, buy or expand businesses. Business owners need somebody…
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Reliable Cash Flow via Industrial Real Estate w/ MAG Capital-Episode 2
Drew Wahlgren is a Vice President with MAG Capital Partners, which invests in industrial real estate. Their tenants are steady businesses in industries like manufacturing and logistics, which can have desirable characteristics such as great capital structures, resilient cash flows and long...
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Building Wealth Through Land Notes - Ep. 1
We talked to Rick and Crystal Rumer of Texas Secured Land Notes chat about why Notes are the GOAT! Learn how they buy raw land in bulk, then sell it in smaller parcels. Then, TexasSecuredNotes brings in an accredited investor like you to provide the debt financing to the landowner. You earn…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Did you know that most American companies are privately held and that trillions of dollars in business assets are changing hands in today’s retirement boom? Or that private investments in real estate, commodities, notes, and technology can offer cash flow and growth—without the rollercoaster ride of the stock market?This podcast is intended for high income earners who want to go BEYOND STOCKS (and bonds) to learn about the world of private offerings and alternative investments. Learn more at www.beyond-stocks.com
HOSTED BY
Chihiro G Kurokawa and Pedro DeLeon, Jr.
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