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Beyond YOUR Bar Podcast
by Denisa Tova
The Beyond YOUR Bar Podcast is about the people behind the work. Host Denisa Tova sits down with actors, musicians, athletes, and the people who built something, for unhurried conversations that go past the headline and past the title. Not the highlight reel, the real story of how a life gets made. Guests have included Ice-T and Coco, Lou Diamond Phillips, and Michael Nouri. As featured on E! News. Self-funded, no sponsors, no agenda.
Episodes
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S5 E34: Ronn Moss (The Bold and the Beautiful) on Player, Baby Come Back, and His New Life in Italy
For 25 years he was Ridge Forrester, the face at the center of The Bold and the Beautiful. For music fans, he is the voice and bass behind Player and the number one hit Baby Come Back. But when Ronn Moss sits down with Denisa, what comes out is the story of a self-described man of few words who...
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S5 E33: Denise Pines (The M Factor) on Menopause, Misdiagnosis, and What Women Are Never Told
She has carried one of the most avoided subjects in medicine to the World Economic Forum, onto PBS, and even onto the floor of the US Senate. Denise Pines, the Peabody Award winning filmmaker behind The M Factor, sits down with Denisa to talk about menopause the way almost no one does, plainly,...
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S5 E32: OBX's J. Anthony Crane on Why the Nicest Guys Play the Scariest Villains
He plays some of television's most chilling villains, the kind of man you love to hate. So why is J. Anthony Crane, the face of Chandler Groff on Outer Banks, one of the warmest and most curious people we have ever had? The actor behind roles in Succession, Billions, Broadway, and the Royal...
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S5 E31: A Dog's Purpose Author W. Bruce Cameron on What Dogs Really Think, Grief & Finding Your Purpose
W. Bruce Cameron wrote A Dog's Purpose as a book about the soul. The world read it as a book about dogs. He has been happily explaining the difference ever since. The number one New York Times bestselling author has written more than thirty dog centered novels that have made millions of people...
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S5 E30: Thom Filicia on Queer Eye, Designing for David Bowie & the Elevator That Changed His Life
Thom Filicia got his big break because his dog needed to pee. He was a successful interior designer in Soho with a dozen people working for him when he got stuck in an elevator with a group of strangers, a panicking woman, and a dog with his legs in a knot. By the time the fire department pried…
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S5 E29: Poison's Rikki Rockett on Beating Cancer, Raising Hell & Building an Empire With Two Drumsticks
Rikki Rockett built an entire empire out of a pair of drumsticks, and he is the first to tell you he still can't believe it worked. As the drummer and co-founder of Poison, he helped define an era, sold tens of millions of records, and just landed in the Metal Hall of Fame. Now he is dropping a...
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S5 E28: Days of Our Lives Star Patrika Darbo on Staying True to Yourself in Hollywood
Some people spend their whole lives asking permission. Patrika Darbo never did. At a Hollywood audition in 1968 she was told she had all the talent in the world and none of the look the business wanted. What she did next set the tone for the next 40 years, two Emmys, and one of the most respected...
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S5 E27: From Legal Aid to Her Own Firm: 30 Years in Family Law
Early in her career, Debra Rubin gave clients bus fare out of her own pocket so they could make it to court. Today she runs her own firm and is one of the most recognized matrimonial attorneys on Long Island. How she got from one to the other is the real story. Host Denisa Tova sits down with…
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S5 E26: Caroline Stanbury & Sergio Carrallo on Marriage, Building an Empire & Never Giving Up
Caroline Stanbury and Sergio Carrallo run nine companies, raise three teenagers and live a life most people only see through a screen. You know them from Ladies of London and The Real Housewives of Dubai. What you do not know is what actually holds it all together. In this conversation they open…
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S5 E25: Valerie Tocci on Justice, Family Law, and What Keeps Her Fighting
Valerie Tocci, Partner at Fox Rothschild LLP, could have stayed in the courtroom chasing high-stakes cases as a federal prosecutor. Instead, she walked into family law and never looked back. Eighteen years later, she's still fired up about it, and in this episode she's honest about why. She talks...
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S5 E24: Station 19's Barrett Doss on Broadway, Identity & Staying True to Yourself
Barrett Doss played Victoria Hughes on Station 19 for seven seasons. Before that she was a leading lady on Broadway, starring as Rita in Groundhog Day opposite Andy Karl and winning the Theatre World Award for her debut. Right now you can find her as Emily Henderson in Netflix's remake of Little...
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S5 E23: 30 Years in Divorce Court Taught Her to Play the Long Game
Heidi Harris, Partner at Mosberg Sharma Stambleck Gross LLP, has spent more than 30 years as a divorce attorney in New York City. Then she went through her own, after 25 years of marriage. What happened next is the part most people don't expect: the anger eventually subsided, and today she and…
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S5 E22: One Firm, One Path, No Detours: Molly Zamoiski on a Career She Never Doubted
For Molly Zamoiski, family law wasn't a winding path. It was in her blood. Her mother ran a nursery school, and her father, who passed away before she was born, was an attorney. She grew up drawn to law and to helping children, built her entire career at one firm, and became a matrimonial…
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S5 E21: Victoria Rowell on Growing Up in Foster Care, Teaching Herself Ballet & Never Giving Up
Victoria Rowell was a foster child on a farm in Maine who taught herself ballet from a book. That turned into a scholarship to the American Ballet Theater, and eventually into one of the most recognizable careers in television. Drucilla Winters on The Young and the Restless, eight seasons on...
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S5 E20: It Takes Four to Tango: Gregory Gilston on Family Law + Legal Tech
Gregory Gilston built a family law firm from scratch in the middle of the pandemic and ran the whole thing on technology from day one. That turned into a second company, TekStak Legal Consulting, where he helps other attorneys do the same. He has his own rule for family law: it takes four to…
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S5 E19: Sally Miller: How to Trust Yourself & Design a Life That Actually Fits
Sally Miller spent 30 years designing clothes for women. She built her own fashion brand from scratch on credit cards after a shocking divorce. She dressed the Obamas. And then in 2020 everything stopped and she had to face the question she had been avoiding her whole life. Who am I without all…
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S5 E18: 30 Years of Divorce Cases Taught Him One Rule About People
Nobody plans for the thing that changes everything. Jerry Scharoff of The Law Office of Jerome A. Scharoff, P.C. didn't set out to be a divorce lawyer. A single case landed on his desk, he wrote one memo on a weekend, and 30 years later, here he is. That's how careers actually happen. Not in a...
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S5 E17: Sean Stone on Growing Up on Oliver Stone's Film Sets, the Paranormal & Learning to Surrender
Sean Stone grew up on some of the most iconic film sets in Hollywood. Wall Street. The Doors. Born on the Fourth of July. His father is Oliver Stone. And somehow none of that is the most interesting thing about him. Sean talks about traveling the world from the age of five, spending a semester...
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S5 E16: An Analog Childhood, a Digital Adolescence: Joseph H. Nivin on Law, Fatherhood, and Failing Forward
Joseph H. Nivin built his matrimonial law firm from the ground up in Forest Hills, New York. But what he brings to the work goes well beyond the courtroom. As someone who has been through divorce himself, he understands on a personal level exactly how much is at stake for the people sitting…
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S5 E15: Carson Kressley on Queer Eye, Growing Up Gay & Why Authenticity Is the Only Way
Most people know Carson Kressley from Queer Eye or RuPaul's Drag Race. But the kid who grew up on a pony farm in Pennsylvania with 200 Shetland ponies and taught himself to survive junior high with humor because it was the only weapon he had — that is the version worth knowing. In this episode...
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S5 E14: Five Generations, One Promise: How Dawn Cardi Built a Law Career on Her Own Terms
Dawn Cardi didn't come from comfort, and she didn't wait around for permission. The founding partner of Cardi & Edgar LLP has spent decades in matrimonial law, family law, and federal criminal defense, work she calls "people law" because it means helping people when they need it most.In this...
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S5 E13: Clay Aiken on American Idol, New Music After 18 Years & What Fame Never Taught Him
He was a special education teacher in North Carolina. Then a parent of one of his students dared him to audition for American Idol. He got cut in Charlotte. So he drove to Atlanta and tried again. Forty million people watched what happened next. In this episode Clay opens up about not knowing it...
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S5 E12: April Jones Built a 35 Person Law Firm From Scratch. Here's How She Did It
She built a 35 person law firm from the ground up in Denver, Colorado. She did it while raising three kids in diapers. She did it without a roadmap. And she did it because she wanted to create something that did not exist when she needed it most.April Jones is one of the most influential women in...
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S5 E11: Lou Diamond Phillips on 40 Years in Hollywood, Getting Humbled & Why He's Hungrier Than Ever
Lou Diamond Phillips has been one of Hollywood's most resilient and versatile actors for over 40 years and in this episode, he holds nothing back.From crashing Robert De Niro's hotel room in a stolen bellboy uniform at the Deauville Film Festival, to becoming a co-owner of the Tribeca Grill, to...
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S5 E10: Ice-T & Coco Return: Body Count, Marriage, Money & Real Life Unfiltered
Ice-T and Coco Austin return to Beyond the Bar Podcast with host Denise Tova for an unfiltered conversation on marriage, money, parenting, and life behind the headlines.Ice-T (Law & Order: SVU, Body Count) and Coco are back — and this conversation goes places the first one didn't. From road rage...
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S5 E9: They're Divorce Lawyers Who Run a Partnership Like a Marriage
Three divorce attorneys. One firm. Twenty-five-plus years together. And not a single slammed door.Joseph Demarco, Jennifer Rosenkranz and Lisa Schoenfeld are the founding partners of Calcados Rosenkranz DeMarco and Schoenfeld, one of Long Island's most respected matrimonial and family law firms....
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S5 E8: Chris Noth: Beyond Mr. Big, Fatherhood & The Version of Him Nobody Talks About
Most people think they know Chris Noth. Detective Mike Logan. Mr. Big. Peter Florrick. Three of the most iconic characters in television history — all played by one man who has spent decades deliberately staying out of the machine that made him famous. In this episode Denisa sits down with Chris...
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S5 E7: Flashdance Star Michael Nouri on Fame, Fatherhood & Peace at 80
Michael Nouri has spent 54 years in Hollywood. You know him from Flashdance, Yellowstone, and right now from The Pit. At 80 years old he is more honest about his life, his wounds, and his work than most people half his age.Michael opens up about growing up as the peacemaker in a combative...
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S5 E6: How to Divorce Without Destroying Your Family | Jacqueline Caputo
Most people walk into a divorce expecting a battle. Family law attorney and divorce mediator Jacqueline Caputo has spent over two decades proving it doesn't have to be one.Jackie is a Partner at Joseph Law Group where she leads the mediation and collaborative divorce practice on Long Island, New...
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S5 E5: Married 28 Years, Never a Fight: How a Top Attorney & Business Mogul Built the Ultimate Power Couple
What happens when you meet the person you're going to marry — and it still takes 45 years to get it right? In this episode, Denisa sits down with power couple Lisa and Lloyd Zeiderman for a candid, unfiltered conversation about love, ambition, and what it really takes to build a life (and a...
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S5 E4: Ice-T & Coco Austin: Being Real Was Always the Strategy
Most people spend their whole lives performing a version of themselves they think the world wants to see. Ice-T and Coco Austin never did that. And it changed everything.He told the truth about what he knew and built a career that has outlasted almost everyone from his era. She stepped out of the...
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S5 E3: Child Abuse Attorney Liza Camellerie on Fighting for NYC's Most Vulnerable Kids & Secondary Trauma
What happens when the little girl who felt voiceless in the middle of her parents' divorce grows up to spend 20 years fighting for children who have no one else in their corner? For Liza Camellerie, that's not a hypothetical. That's her life.Liza is a family law attorney and one of New York's...
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S5 E2: The Family Law Attorney Who Makes Birdhouses from Cigar Boxes
Nearly 40 years ago, Mitchell Y. Cohen walked into a matrimonial law firm fresh out of Emory Law School and met his work partner, Marty Johnson. They haven't had a fight since. That partnership — built on trust, respect, and zero yelling — says everything about how Mitch approaches the law, and...
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S5 E1: Divorce Attorney Morghan Richardson on High-Stakes Cases, Co-Parenting & Walking Away from Big Law
What does it take to walk away from a six-figure big law salary — with two young kids at home — to start over in a completely different practice? Morghan Richardson did exactly that, and it changed everything. Morghan is a Partner and Co-Chair of the Matrimonial & Family Law practice at Tarter...
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S4 E36: The Murder That Changed Her Life: How Debra Whitson Rebuilt Divorce From the Inside Out
What happens when a 14-year-old girl watches the justice system almost fail someone she loves? For Debra Whitson, it lit a fire that never went out.Denisa Tova sits down with Debra Whitson, founder of Whitson Law PLLC and visionary behind Mediated Online Solutions. From prosecuting…
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S4 E35: Sports, Breast Cancer & Courage: How Lauren Crane Stays Human in High-Conflict Work
She argues high-conflict cases for a living… and still refuses to lose her humanity. 💥In this episode of Beyond the Bar Podcast, Denisa sits down with Lauren Crane – founding partner at Bender & Crane LLP, seasoned family-law litigator, appointed mediator, sports superfan, mom… and breast cancer...
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S4 E34: Sonja Morgan Gets Real About RHONY, Old Money, and Starting Over
You think you know Sonja Morgan, but you really don’t.This is the version of the RHONY icon that never made it to Bravo.People know the memes, the townhouse, the fashion, the chaos, and the one-liners, but this conversation is the first time Sonja opens up about the real story behind the persona....
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S4 E33: Too Sensitive for Law? How Carmen Rodriguez Turned It Into Her Superpower
What if the thing everyone told you to “toughen up” about is exactly what makes you brilliant at your work?In this episode of Beyond the Bar Podcast, Denisa sits down with Carmen Rodriguez, a Cuban-American mediator and collaborative attorney who was once told she was “too sensitive” for the…
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S4 E32: Calm Beats Chaos: Danielle Petitti on Emotional Intelligence in High-Stakes Divorce
When emotions run high and the stakes could not be higher, calm is not weakness. It is mastery.In this episode, NYC powerhouse Danielle R. Petitti, founding attorney of Petitti PLLC, sits down with Denisa Tova for a raw and honest conversation about what it really takes to navigate divorce...
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S4 E31: The Lawyer Who Turned Her Own Divorce Into a Mission to Help Others
When litigator Deepti Shenoy faced her own divorce with a five-month-old baby, everything changed. What began as heartbreak became her purpose — reshaping her legal career and inspiring her to create Split Second, a New York City community helping single moms navigate separation and custody.In…
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S4 E30: Protect Your Peace in Divorce: Alan Feigenbaum on Emotional Capital
Divorce doesn’t have to be a five-year war. Family law partner Alan “Al” Feigenbaum (Blank Rome) explains why protecting emotional capital—your time, headspace, and peace—often beats “winning” one more term on paper. We talk about leaving commercial litigation to work with people, the…
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S4 E29: How Dina Kaplan Turned Trauma into Purpose & Power in the Courtroom
Dina Kaplan is a force — in life and in the courtroom. In this raw and unfiltered conversation, she shares how a trauma at 14 set her on a path to change the system from the inside, why she chooses survivorship over victimhood, and how movement, mantras, and mindset fuel her both personally and...
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S4 E28: How Byron Chou Turned Forensic Accounting, AI, and a Violin Into a Career with Impact
Most career paths are linear. Byron Chou’s is anything but.He started out valuing businesses in high-stakes divorces, grinding through full-time work while going to law school at night. Today he’s a rising force in family law, but what makes him stand out isn’t just the cases he handles, it’s the...
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S4 E27: 18 Languages, 1 Voice: The Fearless Story of Hon. Leela Sharon Aheer
What does it take to turn adversity into leadership?On this episode of Beyond the Bar Podcast, Denisa Tova sits down with The Hon. Leela Sharon Aheer—a woman who went from Alberta farm fields to shaping Canadian policy, proclaiming the country’s first Women’s Entrepreneurship Day, and fighting…
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S4 E26: He Wrote the Book on Divorce—and Raced Yachts Through Storms | Michael Stutman Unfiltered
What do offshore yacht racing, courtroom battles, and co-parenting have in common? They’re all part of the extraordinary story of Michael Stutman—one of New York’s most respected matrimonial lawyers. In this Beyond the Bar Podcast episode, Michael goes way beyond legal strategy and opens up…
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S4 E25: Pit Bull with a Heart: Sandra Radna on Divorce, Strength & Finding Peace
What does it take to guide someone through one of the hardest chapters of their life? Sandra Radna, founding attorney of the Law Offices of Sandra M. Radna, P.C. and author of You’re Getting Divorced… Now What?, has been practicing family law since 1993. Known by her clients as a “pit bull with a...
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S4 E24: The Art of Winning Arguments – Even When the Stakes Are Personal | Adam Schneid
How do you win an argument when emotions run high—and keep your integrity intact?In this episode of Beyond the Bar Podcast, Denisa Tova sits down with Adam Schneid, partner at Most & Schneid, P.C., and graduate of Cornell & Cardozo School of Law. Adam shares:- Why crafting the right narrative is...
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S4 E23: The Smarter Way to Use AI in Your Business with AI expert (and mad scientist) Mark Kashef
What if AI could handle your inbox, prep your presentations, and build your SOPs - while you sleep?In this episode of Beyond the Bar, Denisa Tova sits down with Mark Kashef - AI educator, founder of Prompt Advisors, and automation mastermind - to explore real, practical ways attorneys can…
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S4 E22: Storm Chaser Turned Divorce Lawyer? Bryce Levine’s Unexpected Journey
What do hurricanes, blizzards, and high-conflict custody battles have in common? Bryce Levine knows. In this episode of Beyond the Bar, we sit down with the partner at Jeffrey Schecter & Associates to explore how a lifelong fascination with extreme weather shaped his perspective as a family law...
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S4 E21: From 1,500 Cold Emails to the NFL: Jordan Salkin’s Road to the Cincinnati Bengals
He sent over 1,500 emails just to get a foot in the door. Today, he’s coaching in the NFL.Host Denisa Tova sits down with Jordan Salkin, the Cincinnati Bengals’ new offensive assistant, whose journey from unpaid college gigs to high-powered offenses at Oregon and now the NFL is nothing short of...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Beyond YOUR Bar Podcast is about the people behind the work. Host Denisa Tova sits down with actors, musicians, athletes, and the people who built something, for unhurried conversations that go past the headline and past the title. Not the highlight reel, the real story of how a life gets made. Guests have included Ice-T and Coco, Lou Diamond Phillips, and Michael Nouri. As featured on E! News. Self-funded, no sponsors, no agenda.
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The Beyond YOUR Bar Podcast is about the people behind the work. Host Denisa Tova sits down with actors, musicians, athletes, and the people who built something, for unhurried conversations that go past the headline and past the title. Not the highlight reel, the real story of how a life gets made....
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