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Beyond the Status Quo
by Kathryn Gorman & Tamara Zaple Rolfs
Beyond the Status Quo is the podcast for purpose-driven changemakers in education and beyond. Our listeners see that the world is changing and how we think, lead and learn must change too. They are leaders ready to question inherited systems, because the world is shifting but many leadership models haven't caught up: we're still rewarding control over connection, certainty over nuance and status over substance. Brave, values-lead leadership isn't just possible. it's already happening at every level of society. And it's exactly what the world needs. On this podcast, we bring together cross-sector voices who go beneath the surface, who shine a light through the cracks and show us what's possible when we lead beyond the status quo. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Episodes
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Ed Kirwan- Empathy: Connection that Inspires Learning
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Ed Kirwan, founder of Empathy Week and Empathy Studios, which use film to build the skill of empathy in schools around the world. Ed traces his own first challenge to the status quo back to a Year 11 class he refused...
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Tiffany Beck OBE- Relationships as Infrastructure
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Tiffany Beck, Head of Education at PLMR and co-founder and chair of trustees of Maritime Academy Trust. Tiff makes the case that governance and communication are built on the same foundation: relationships treated as...
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Alice Gregson- Bridging Silos
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Alice Gregson, former CEO, independent leadership specialist and founder of Elevating Leadership. Drawing on a 20-year "sector nomad" career spanning policing, adult social care and health, the civil service and...
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Eve Poole- The Art of Leadership: Honing Your Skills to Lead Better
In this Season 3 opener of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Dr Eve Poole OBE, chair of the Woodard Corporation and pioneer of the "leadersmithing" movement. Drawing on a career spanning the Church Commissioners, Deloitte, Ashridge Business School and a string of chair and...
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Daniel Atlin- Radical Collaboration in the face of Complexity
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Daniel Atlin, a Canadian leadership executive and researcher, about leading through complexity. Drawing on his dissertation research with 25 university leaders across the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, Daniel...
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Nour Kharsa and Miriam Gosling Gage- Hopeful Leadership in the Cracks
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn are joined by two guests for the first time: Nour Kharsa, who leads a charity supporting displaced children and families in Lebanon, and Miriam Gosling-Gage, Head of Programmes at Co-Create Consultancy and Co-Director at...
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Allana Gay- Merit Without Equity Isn't Merit
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Allana Gay, headteacher, education consultant and co-founder of the BAMEed Network, about why representation in education leadership remains so stubbornly unequal. Drawing on her rejection from headship roles and her...
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Jeremy Hannay- Leaders Walk Slowly
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Dr Jeremy Hannay, Executive Principal of Three Bridges and Wolffields Primary Schools, about leading schools through trust, curiosity and human-centred growth rather than fear and compliance. Drawing on his Canadian...
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Laura-Jane Rawlings MBE- Lead with Joy, Change the System
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn speak with Laura-Jayne. Rawlings MBE, CEO of Youth Employment UK, about the growing disconnect between education, employment and the realities facing young people today. Drawing on her own experience of poverty and an...
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Jade Garratt- Psychological Safety, Power and Hierarchy
Summary In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Jade Garratt talks to Tamara and Kathryn about why psychological safety matters so deeply in education and more widely, in leadership. Drawing on her experience as a teacher, researcher and co-founder of Psych Safety, Jade reflects on the power...
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Jonny Uttley- Despite the System, Not Because of It
Summary In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Jonny Uttley reflects on challenging systems, from his upbringing to leading schools and multi-academy trusts. He explores the tension between education’s moral purpose and a system that often works against inclusion and equity. Jonny argues that...
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Will Richardson- Confronting Education with Cathedral Thinking
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, we are joined by Will Richardson, who challenges the very foundations of modern education through the lens of “cathedral thinking.” He argues that we are living in a “time between worlds” yet schools continue to prepare young people for systems...
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Nilema Bhakta-Jones - Courageous Leadership: A Daily Practice
Summary: In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo we are joined by Nilema Bhakta-Jones who shares her journey of courageous leadership, discusses the importance of challenging the status quo, the role of psychological safety in leadership, and the need for creativity and play in the workplace.…
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Ewan McIntosh- Cutting Through The Tosh: Learning and Leading in a New Era
Episode Summary In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, Tamara and Kathryn are joined by Ewan McIntosh, founder of NoTosh, an international education consultancy, for a practical conversation about learning and leading in education. Drawing on his work with schools and systems across more than…
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Jillian Reilly- Permission to Question the Status Quo
In this episode, facilitator and author of The 10 Permissions, Jillian Reilly joins Tamara and Kathryn for a powerful conversation about what it really means to question the status quo, not as rebellion, but as a deeply human act of listening inward, honouring integrity, and navigating…
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Adam Kahane: Radical Engagement in Fractured Times
Radical Engagement for Fractured Times — Episode Summary In this episode, systems change practitioner, author and long‑time collaborator across conflict lines Adam Kahane joins us to explore what it means to engage radically in a world that is fracturing at speed. Drawing on his decades of work…
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Megan Reitz- Spaciousness in a Noisy World
Spaciousness in a Noisy World — Episode Summary In this episode, leadership thinker, researcher and author Megan Reitz joins us to explore what it means to create spaciousness in a world that feels increasingly frantic, noisy and attention‑hungry. Drawing on her research into mindfulness…
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Episode 5 - Disruptive Leadership with purpose with Nick Osborne
Summary In this episode, Nick Osborne, the founding CEO of Maritime Academy Trust, discusses his journey in education, emphasising the importance of questioning the status quo, the role of humour in leadership, and the necessity of vulnerability. He shares insights on positive disruption in...
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Episode 4 - Astrid Korin Leading with Purpose: From the Inside Out
In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, hosts Tamara Zaple Rolfs and Kathryn Gorman discuss the importance of challenging the status quo in leadership, the dynamics of power in organisations, and the role of resilience and self-awareness in effective leadership with organisational coach and...
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David Liddle - Host Reflections
In this reflective conversation, Tamara Zaple Rolfs and Kathryn Gorman discuss their insightful podcast episode with David Liddell, focusing on the importance of translating theory into action within leadership and organisational culture. They explore the evolution of leadership towards…
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Episode 3 - Tipping the Balance: from conflict to connection with David Liddle
In this episode of Beyond the Status Quo, David Liddell, a recognized authority in people, culture, and conflict management, shares his insights on challenging the status quo in organisations. He discusses the importance of transformational leadership, the need for connection and belonging in...
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Wayne Norrie - Host reflections
In this conversation, Tamara and Kathryn discuss their insights from a recent interview with Wayne, focusing on challenging educational norms, reframing autonomy, the courage of conviction in leadership, and the importance of community engagement. They explore how effective leadership requires...
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Episode 2 - Challenging the norms in education with Wayne Norrie OBE
In this insightful conversation, Wayne Norrie OBE, CEO of Greenwood Academy Trust, discusses his journey in education, emphasising the importance of challenging the status quo, community engagement, and the need for autonomy in schools. He shares his experiences of leadership, the significance of...
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Shane Leaning - Host reflections
In this conversation, Kathryn and Tamara reflect on their conversation with Shane Leaning and explore the significance of curiosity in leadership, discussing the barriers that prevent leaders from asking questions and the importance of creating a psychologically safe environment. They also delve...
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Episode 1 - Curiouser and Curiouser with Shane Leaning
Summary In this engaging conversation, Shane, Kathryn, and Tamara explore the themes of leadership, change management, and the importance of questioning the status quo in education. They discuss personal experiences with curiosity, humility, and the need for trust in leadership roles. The...
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Why Beyond the Status Quo? Why now?
In this inaugural episode of Beyond the Status Quo, hosts Tamara Zaple Rolfs and Kathryn Gorman discuss the motivations behind launching the podcast, their shared interests in leadership, complex systems, and the importance of values in navigating change. They emphasise the need for curiosity and...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Beyond the Status Quo is the podcast for purpose-driven changemakers in education and beyond. Our listeners see that the world is changing and how we think, lead and learn must change too. They are leaders ready to question inherited systems, because the world is shifting but many leadership models haven't caught up: we're still rewarding control over connection, certainty over nuance and status over substance.
Brave, values-lead leadership isn't just possible. it's already happening at every level of society. And it's exactly what the world needs.
On this podcast, we bring together cross-sector voices who go beneath the surface, who shine a light through the cracks and show us what's possible when we lead beyond the status quo.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Kathryn Gorman & Tamara Zaple Rolfs
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