Build With AI

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Build With AI

Most AI podcasts talk about what's possible. Build With AI shows you how it's done, live. Each episode, host Corey Ganim brings on entrepreneurs and operators who share their screen and build real AI automations, workflows, and tool setups right in front of you. No boring slides. Nothing that hasn't been battle-tested. You'll watch actual implementations get built from scratch so you can follow along and do the same in your business. If you're a non-technical entrepreneur who wants to put AI to work without becoming a developer, hit play and build along with us.

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    # 164 How I Built an AI Voice Agent With Claude + Voiceflow (Zero Code)

    Build your voice agent in 10 minutes (No code required) https://corey-ganim.kit.com/18da152cf4 In this episode, I sat down with Susan Westwater, co-founder of Pragmatic Digital and a conversational AI veteran since 2017, to build a working voice agent in Voiceflow live, with zero code. Susan walks through her exact prompt template for an appointment-scheduling agent, explains the difference between in-the-loop, on-the-loop, and fully autonomous agents, and shows how to separate your agent instructions from your knowledge base so you can update facts without breaking the whole build. We test the agent live (it called her cell phone mid-episode), connect it to a Google Sheet to capture customer intake, and talk about competitors like VAPI, ElevenLabs, and Voiceify. By the end, you'll have the exact playbook (and the template Susan is giving away) to spin up your own MVP voice agent in under an hour. Timestamps 03:42 – Inside Voiceflow and what makes it different 04:23 – Chatbot vs voice agent: listen, decide, act 05:30 – In the loop vs on the loop vs fully autonomous 09:09 – The system prompt: identity, purpose, and boundaries 11:54 – Voice, persona, and speech sculpting 13:22 – Separating agent instructions from knowledge base 17:14 – Stopping the agent from troubleshooting electrical issues 20:31 – Rules for collecting info one question at a time 23:21 – Pasting the prompt and one-shotting the build 26:34 – Voiceflow competitors: VAPI, ElevenLabs, Voiceify 30:22 – Connecting tools at each conversation step 33:13 – Why faster builds give up control 38:21 – Adding the knowledge base as a Word doc 43:13 – Sending customer intake to a Google Sheet 45:57 – Live phone call with the voice agent 50:09 – Branching, exit conditions, and iteration 54:52 – Custom voices, ElevenLabs integration, and voice security Key Points Keep two documents separate: agent instructions (how the agent behaves, its identity, persona, escalation rules) and knowledge base (the facts about your business). If pricing or hours change, you update one cell in your knowledge base instead of digging through a giant system prompt. The strength of a Voiceflow build lives in the prompt. Susan pastes her full instructions doc into the new project prompt and Voiceflow generates the entire conversation flow — greeting, qualification, intake, confirmation, escalation — with no coding. Be explicit about what the agent does NOT do. LLMs are trying to "win the game" (Susan's War Games analogy), so if you don't tell the electrical-appointment bot "do not troubleshoot," it will try to problem-solve its way out of every conversation. Collect intake one question at a time, use explicit confirmation on critical fields like callback numbers, and tell the agent to be empathetic but not apologetic — nobody wants a bot that says "I'm sorry" five times instead of solving the problem. Voiceflow — https://www.voiceflow.com Pragmatic Digital — Susan's agency helping brands operationalize conversational AI and applied AI for CX - https://www.pragmatic.digital VAPI — alternative voice agent platform - https://vapi.ai ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Voiceify — centralized library for chatbot, voice agent, and telephone deployments across web and mobile - https://www.voiceify.com Twilio — phone number and telephony layer for connecting Voiceflow agents to real phone calls - https://www.twilio.com Make.com — automation platform that can connect to Voiceflow as a tool integration - https://www.make.com Robert Scoble on X https://x.com/Scobleizer Brian Roemmele on X https://x.com/BrianRoemmele FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://x.com/coreyganim Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coreyganim/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreyganim/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@coreyganim FIND SUSAN ON SOCIAL X: https://x.com/sjw75 Website: https://www.pragmatic.digital

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    # 163 I Built the ULTIMATE AI Second Brain (Karpathy's LLM Wiki Setup Guide)

    🔗 Deploy your own Hermes agent on Hostinger -10% off any plan with code COREY10: http://hostinger.com/corey10 (use code COREY10)Grab the free step-by-step Hermes Second Brain setup guide here: https://corey-ganim.kit.com/60fc0fe6d9In this solo episode, I walk through exactly how I built the ultimate AI second brain using Hermes and its built-in LLM Wiki skill — inspired by Karpathy's wiki setup. I break down the three core operations of the Hermes agent (ingest, query, lint), the three layers of the knowledge base (raw sources, the wiki, schema/tags), and why I chose Hermes over Claude Code, OpenClaw, or Obsidian for this build. From there, I show the full one-click deploy on a Hostinger VPS, the OpenAI model setup, the Telegram bot integration via BotFather, and the Markdownload Chrome extension trick I use to feed any tweet, article, or webpage straight into the wiki. By the end of this episode, you'll have a clear, step-by-step path to deploy your own self-improving second brain that gets smarter the more you use it.Key PointsHermes ships with a built-in LLM Wiki skill that handles the second brain function out of the box — your job is to curate sources, the agent's job is to summarize, tag, and file them away.The knowledge base has exactly three layers: raw sources you give it (read-only), the agent-owned wiki of markdown files, and the schema/tags Hermes builds to make querying low-friction.Run the Lint command roughly once a month — it audits your wiki for contradictions, sources older than 90 days, and oversized files that should be split for more accurate retrieval.Deploy on a Hostinger VPS instead of locally — it's a one-click install with no terminal, cheaper than a Mac mini, always-on, and your data stays private.The simplest workflow for feeding the wiki: use the Markdownload Chrome extension to clip any tweet, article, or webpage to markdown, drag it into your Telegram chat with Hermes, and tell it to add it to the wiki.This is a compounding asset — on day 1 the knowledge base is the dumbest it'll ever be, but feed it consistently and by day 90 it becomes incredibly useful for retrieval.Hermes agent VPS deployment on Hostinger (use code COREY10 for 10% off) - https://www.hostinger.com/vps/hermes-agent-hostingMarkdownload Chrome extension - https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/markdownload-markdown-web/pcmpcfapbekmbjjkdalcgopdkipoggdiTelegram BotFather - https://t.me/BotFatherOpenAI Codex - https://openai.com/codexFIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://x.com/coreyganim Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coreyganim/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreyganim/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@coreyganim

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    # 162 Cracking the X algorithm with Claude Code

    Tom Crawshaw (8+ years in automations, $25M+ in attributed e-com revenue) cracks open the content system that's pulled him millions of views. We walk through the Claude Code skill he built that handles voice profile, copywriting principles, hook scoring, image prompts, and a humanizer pass from one slash command. He also surfaces a hidden Claude Code feature called /insights that audits your full usage history and tells you what to build next. You'll learn how to turn messy ChatGPT workflows into a real skill, why Whisperflow is non-negotiable, and the one slash command 99% of Claude Code users are sleeping on.Timestamps00:00 Intro00:30 Tom's automation background03:30 Skills vs. Projects on context08:30 Auto-updating voice profile from X11:00 Nano Banana plus Canva workflow23:30 Live demo: a Whisperflow post34:30 Hook scoring with copywriting principles46:30 The hidden /insights command54:30 Skills vs. n8n vs. LovableKey PointsSkills beat Claude Projects on context. Projects load every reference file on every message. A skill works like a book: Claude pulls only the chapter it needs, so a full pipeline runs in one chat.Tom's skill auto-updates his voice profile weekly. The X API pulls his last 7 days of posts, ranks by engagement, and rewrites the profile so the skill keeps drifting toward what's working./insights is the most slept-on feature in Claude Code. It audits your full session history and hands back a real report: what's working, where you're breaking your own rules, skills to build, and prompts to run.Image gen is 80% Nano Banana, 20% Canva. Generate fast in the AI tool, then finish in Canva with magic grab and magic erase.Whisperflow changed how Tom and Corey think, not just type. Speaking forces tighter thinking and makes prompts richer because adding context costs almost nothing.LinksClaude Code: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-codeWhisperflow: https://wisprflow.ai/Nano Banana: https://gemini.google.com/Canva: https://www.canva.com/n8n: https://n8n.io/Tom's site: https://learnn8nautomation.com/Build With AI: https://www.skool.com/buildwithai/aboutFIND ME ON SOCIALX: https://x.com/coreyganimInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/coreyganim/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreyganim/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@coreyganimTOM ON SOCIALX: https://x.com/TomCrawshaw01YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAIGrowthLabWebsite: https://learnn8nautomation.com/

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    # 161 How I'm AI-maxxing boomer businesses to make f*ck you money

    Free audit template Corey is giving away — https://audittemplate.ai In this episode, I sat down with Chris Koerner and outlined how I sell AI assessments to small businesses. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 00:33 – The $1,000 AI audit pitch 01:10 – The lunch conversation that started it all 02:23 – Why 99 out of 100 owners need this 02:57 – Why Loom screen recording failed 04:25 – From Zoom calls to a voice agent 05:31 – Meet Annie, the AI interviewer 06:17 – Live demo of the voice agent 08:06 – How the voice agent was built (Retell + skills) 10:18 – Walking through a real assessment in Gamma 12:00 – The effort vs impact matrix 13:00 – Wedding venue saves 8 hours with Dash This 15:16 – Pricing journey: free to $1,000 17:30 – Why charging more makes upsells easier 18:02 – The full upsell menu breakdown 22:00 – Custom GPT knowledge system for a business broker 24:46 – Which industries this works best for 25:53 – Seven ways to find clients with no followers 26:39 – Hosting a local AI meetup 27:30 – Door-knocking businesses in 2026 29:25 – Using free audits to land warm contacts 30:30 – Running free AI office hours 31:30 – Hard-won lessons and the speed-to-lead upsell 34:36 – The simple Claude prompt that builds the audit 35:33 – Where to find Corey Key Points The business started from one lunch where a friend said he'd pay $1,000 just to be followed around for a day. After validating with 50–100 owners, Corey found 99 out of 100 small business owners need this — they just don't know which AI tools to use. The upsell menu is built into the report. Common follow-ons: process optimization ($3K–$5K), Zapier or Make automation builds ($1K–$3K), custom GPT knowledge systems, CRM setups (high-level CRM at $3K–$5K), and speed-to-lead AI agents tied directly to revenue. The seven-way client acquisition playbook works with zero followers: host a local AI meetup on Luma or Meetup.com, door-knock local businesses, run free audits for your network, host free AI office hours at coworking spaces or realtor offices, partner with well-connected locals, and lean on warm intros from your CEO peer group. You don't need to be an AI expert. As Corey puts it, you just need to be one step ahead of your average client — which is about seven days of studying. The realtor's office where he hosted his free AI meetup turned into paying assessment work. The Claude prompt to generate an audit is dead simple: attach the transcript, tell Claude to find off-the-shelf tools that fix the pain points, and point it at directories like Futurepedia or There's An AI For That. FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://x.com/coreyganim Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coreyganim/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreyganim/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@coreyganim

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Most AI podcasts talk about what's possible. Build With AI shows you how it's done, live. Each episode, host Corey Ganim brings on entrepreneurs and operators who share their screen and build real AI automations, workflows, and tool setups right in front of you. No boring slides. Nothing that hasn't been battle-tested. You'll watch actual implementations get built from scratch so you can follow along and do the same in your business. If you're a non-technical entrepreneur who wants to put AI to work without becoming a developer, hit play and build along with us.

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