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Built 2 Scale
by Built 2 Scale
From bootstrapped chaos to VC-backed scale, Built 2 Scale is your backstage pass to building high-growth startups at the edge of business, tech, AI, and robotics. Hosted by founders Matt Perrott and Scott Wilcox, this podcast dives into the raw, unfiltered reality of turning big ideas into scalable companies.Each week, we unpack the messy middle—fundraising, hiring, product-market fit, and the growing role of automation and AI in modern business. No hype. No jargon. Just real stories, hard lessons, and sharp insights from founders who are actually in the trenches.Whether you’re building SaaS, hardware, or something the world’s never seen before—if you’re scaling, you’re in the right place.
Episodes
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The Value of Human Cognition Is Going Negative. Build the Outcome Machine.
What happens when intelligence becomes abundant, the cost of cognitive work trends towards zero, and humans themselves become the unpredictable variable inside increasingly autonomous systems? In Episode 6, Scott and Matt explore what this means for the future of work, company design and the...
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B2S Operators — Structured AI | The 3D QA Agent
Structured AI is building an AI-native quality layer for construction: agents that can read complex drawing sets and 3D models, find design and coordination issues, and increasingly act inside Revit to help fix them. Their thesis is simple: QA/QC is still too manual, too inconsistent and too...
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Live for Your Drive
The first ever live Built 2 Scale, streaming at 6am for the Australian drive to work and 3pm for the Austin drive home. Scotty and Matt dig into open source models like Kimi closing the gap on the frontier labs and what that does to cost per token for every business downstream, then get into the...
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The Master Builder Revival | How humans + Tokens spark a lost-crafts renaissance
How humans + tokens spark a lost-crafts renaissance For two hundred years the master builder got fragmented — one person who could read a site, command a trade and run a job split into site manager, contracts administrator, project coordinator, estimator, fifteen roles deep. That fragmentation...
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The Abundance Stack
Scott and Matt are back after a month off — and a new daughter, a new W. hire from the podcast itself, and a 22-minute plan to solve Australia. Matt coins "knowledge debt," Scott coins "tradesmen are skills files with dexterity," and they propose a hackathon that pairs a bricklayer with a...
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Skills vs Agents — The Stack Everyone's Getting Wrong
Scott Wilcox and Matt Perrott break down the two weeks that took W.Build's invoice processing from $5–$10 per invoice to half a cent — a thousand times reduction — and what it signals for every construction business trying to figure out where agents fit. In this episode: The clean definition of...
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The Sims for Founders: What Agent-First Companies Actually Look Like
Built2Scale is back — and everything's different. No more AI news roundups. From now on, every episode documents the real, messy, building-in-public journey of W. (luxury home builder, $30M+ revenue, ~20 people) and BuildPass (construction tech startup, 1,000+ customers across 4 countries) as…
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Elon's Limiting Factor Philosophy, AI Turning Noise Into Signal & The FebFast Business Sprint
In this episode, Scotty and Matt dive deep into Elon's limiting factor philosophy borrowed from physics (just remove the bottleneck, move to the next one, repeat), explore how they scored their own businesses across demand, authority, distribution, margin, talent, systems, capital, and CEO...
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Tool of the Week Segment | Episode 35
BUILT 2 SCALE | TOOL OF THE WEEK | Episode 35 Every week, Matty and Scotty break down the strategies, frameworks, and tools that separate the world's best builders from everyone else. This week: Consumecute, the workflow that turns mindless consumption into active execution. The Trigger: Am I...
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The Delegation Era: AI as an Operator, Not a Tool
In this episode, Scotty and Matt mourn the loss of "the greatest episode of all time" (recorded with a bottle of Shiraz that became an unworkable file), then dive into the OpenClaw lobster rebellion as AI agents gain autonomy, discuss financial ethics, and start posting on dating apps. They…
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AI NEWS | Episode 34
BUILT 2 SCALE | AI NEWS | Episode 34 Welcome back to Built 2 Scale. Every week, Matty and Scotty cut through the noise to bring you the AI developments that actually matter: the moves reshaping markets, the strategies redefining competition, and the shifts you need to understand to stay ahead.…
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Claude Opus 4.5 Coding Revolution, Apple Partners With Google Gemini & Meta Acquires Manus for $5B
Post Description: In the season 2 premiere, Scotty and Matt celebrate 34 episodes of bootstrapped survival while diving into the watershed moment for AI in 2026. They explore Claude Opus 4.5's coding dominance as Toby Lutke rebuilds MRI software in hours and Andre Karpathy hacks his own home...
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Receipts or Regrets | End of Year Special
BUILT 2 SCALE | RECEIPTS OR REGRETS | End of Year Special Welcome to our brand new segment: Receipts or Regrets. A receipt is something you keep because you're proud of the call. A regret? Well, that's obvious. Matty and Scotty look back at 32 episodes of bold predictions, hot takes, and...
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2025 Finale: Yann LeCun Raises $3B, Domain Addiction Confessions & Built 2 Scale Year Wrap
In the final episode of 2025, Scotty and Matt celebrate 33 episodes of Built 2 Scale by diving into Yann LeCun's ultimate entrepreneurial pivot, raising $3 billion in euros after getting ousted from Meta by Alexander Wang to work on spatial intelligence. They dissect why this is terrible news for...
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Tool of the Week | Episode 32
BUILT 2 SCALE | TOOL OF THE WEEK | Episode 32 Every week, Matty and Scotty break down the strategies, frameworks, and tools that separate the world's best builders from everyone else. This week: Alloy, the prototyping tool that just created a 10x moment for non-technical people in software...
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Robot Rundown | Episode 32
BUILT 2 SCALE | ROBOT RUNDOWN | Episode 32 Every week, Matty and Scotty break down the latest in robotics: from humanoids to specialized automation, and everything reshaping how we work, eat, and live. This week: Travis Kalanick (Uber founder) is quietly revolutionizing food production, and the...
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AI NEWS | Episode 32
BUILT 2 SCALE | AI NEWS | Episode 32 Welcome back to Built 2 Scale. Every week, Matty and Scotty cut through the noise to bring you the AI developments that actually matter: the moves reshaping markets, the strategies redefining competition, and the shifts you need to understand to stay ahead.…
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Inside the emerging frontier of models, machines and manufacturing hell.
In this episode, Scotty enters crazy season construction while Matt preps for a founder mode Christmas, then they dissect Sam Altman's Code Red response to Google's dominance by hiring 40 Apple hardware engineers. The guys explore whether this signals an Apple acquisition setup or a play for the...
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Tool of the Week Segment | Episode 31
BUILT 2 SCALE | TOOL OF THE WEEK | Episode 31 - November 28, 2025 Every week, Scotty and Matty break down the strategies, frameworks, and mental models that separate the world's best builders from everyone else. This week's tools: 1. Embrace the Flywheel Effect Your success operates like a…
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AI NEWS | Episode 31
BUILT 2 SCALE | AI NEWS | Episode 31 - November 28, 2025 Every week, Matty and Scotty cut through the noise to bring you the AI developments that actually matter: the moves reshaping markets, the strategies redefining competition, and the shifts you need to understand to stay ahead. Google's…
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Google TPU vs Nvidia GPUs: Token Per Watt Dominance, or the Era of Scaling Is Over?
In this episode, Scotty debates whether cricket on office TVs kills productivity or builds culture, while Matt navigates Thanksgiving week shutdowns in Austin where the entire tech economy grinds to a halt. They dissect the seismic shift happening in AI infrastructure as Google's Gemini 3.0,...
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Google Gemini 3 Launch, Manus AI Browser Wars, & Crashing VC Offices
In this episode, Scotty takes FSD to hurry-mode across San Francisco while Matty battles jet lag with his toddler, and both come back with insights on what really matters in 2025's AI landscape. From crashing VC offices unannounced to exposing the AI consultant charlatans at LA's business summit,...
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Vision Mode: Agency Over Intelligence | Ep. 29
In this episode, Scotty and Matty swap the Apple Watch for knockoffs, swap politeness for precision, and dive into what it really means to operate in “vision mode.” From ditching devices and redefining productivity to the rise of humanoid robots, space-based data centers, and the end of polite AI…
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Brett Adcock's 200x Apple Claim, OpenAI Atlas Browser Conspiracy & Top Private Companies Ranked
This week on Built 2 Scale, Matt reports live from Shanghai at 4:30 AM battling jet lag, the guys dissect OpenAI's surprise Atlas browser launch and the conspiracy behind the name, Brett Adcock claims solving humanoid robots will create a company 200x bigger than Apple, and voice UI takes over…
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Figure AI's $4B Addiction, Agent Bosses, and Why Gen Z Quit The Internet
This week on Built 2 Scale, Matt and Scotty dissect the agent workforce transformation as companies redesign org charts with AI reports-to structures, Figure AI's staggering capital appetite hits new heights with a dedicated fundraising team, and autonomous websites that evolve based on…
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OpenAI's SORA 2 Drops + WE CALLED THE BUBBLE TOP + Shopping Agents Win
This week on Built 2 Scale, we call the market top with multiple bubble indicators: Wang's $14B acquisition raising eyebrows, Chamath's SPAC return, and a $30K baby naming service in San Francisco. Plus: OpenAI's explosive week with Sora video generation and the Stripe/Shopify shopping…
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Autonomous Cars, Autonomous Tunneling and… Autonomous Homes?
This week on Built 2 Scale, we explore Jensen's conquest of capitalism through circular AI investments, Meta's Ray-Ban AR breakthrough, and the device-less future where your home becomes the computer. Plus: why squirrels follow Scott around New York, Matt’s iPhone 17 Pro unboxing, and our updated...
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Meta's AR Leak, Larry's TikTok Takeover & Brett Burns Another Billion
This week on Built 2 Scale, Scott broadcasts from Maui while Matt navigates New York with a sick toddler as we dive into Meta's AR Ray-Bans leak, Elon's humanoid robot complexity revelations, and why Larry Ellison just became Gen Z's granddaddy overlord. Plus: Brett Adcock burns another billion,...
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iPhone Air Launch, Tesla Master Plan & SpaceX Goes Direct to Your Phone
This week on Built 2 Scale, we return from our strategy week break with our most Elon-heavy episode ever as he skips Trump's tech dinner to flex with massive product announcements. Plus: Apple's product-first AI strategy, China's 1000km/h maglev trains, and why figure robots are moving from one...
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Google CRUSHES Everyone + Elon's $10B Anime Crisis + The Age of Agents
This week on Built 2 Scale, we deliver our most packed episode ever with rapid-fire coverage of Google's dominant month, Warren Buffett joining our audience, and our first-ever Top 5 Most Influential People in AI draft picks. Plus: why 95% of corporate AI spending shows zero ROI and Elon's latest...
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NVIDIA's Trojan horse, Yann LeCun Timebomb, 8 Sleep Mega Raise and the Physical AI Boom
This week on Built 2 Scale, Matt navigates Austin life while Scotty recovers from his US adventure. We break down the massive AI shakeups: GPT-5's controversial launch causing user rebellion, Meta's AI division downsizing (with Yann LeCun on the chopping block), and Nvidia's shocking announcement...
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The Elon vs Sam FEUD Explodes + GPT-5 First Look & Remote Construction Robots
This week on Built 2 Scale, Matt's building his Austin studio while Scotty's back from his US adventure. We break down the explosive Elon vs Sam Altman social media war, deliver our first-look GPT-5 review, and explore why remote-controlled excavators are about to revolutionize construction.…
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OpenAI Goes Open Source and just dropped GPT 5 + Google's Interactive 3D World Generator
This week on Built 2 Scale, Scotty returns from his epic US adventure (complete with custom cowboy hat drama) while Matt settles into Austin life. We dive into Google's mind-blowing Genie 3D world generator, OpenAI's game-changing open source release, and why 82% of new Australian jobs are now...
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Live from LA - Matt and Scotty’s Austin and LA adventures, plus NVIDIA and Google power plays
Built 2 Scale | Episode 18 - Show Notes Hosts: Scott Wilcox (W & Elycium) & Matt Perrott (BuildPass) Description: This week on Built 2 Scale, Scotty & Matt fly to LA for an epic recording session covering Google's coding-killer Opal launch, why 50% of Aussies now rely on government income, and...
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Let the Browser Wars Begin
Built 2 Scale | Episode 17 - Show Notes Hosts: Scott Wilcox (W & Elycium) & Matt Perrott (BuildPass) Description: This week on Built 2 Scale, Scotty & Matt break down the most expensive pre-seed valuations in history with Mira Murati's $12 billion Thinking Machines, Grok-4's unprecedented…
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The Intelligence Big Bang
Episode Overview Weekly analysis of artificial intelligence business strategy, startup acquisitions, and technology market dynamics featuring the Oracle-OpenAI $30B deal, AI subscription cancellations, and Jack Dorsey's mesh network project. Hosts: Scott Wilcox (W & Elycium) & Matt Perrott...
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The $100 Million AI Talent War: Meta vs OpenAI
Episode Summary Scott and Matt dive into the biggest tech stories of the week, covering Meta's aggressive talent acquisition spree, XAI's massive $10B funding round, Neuralink's breakthrough presentations, and the escalating race to artificial superintelligence. Plus: robot soccer leagues…
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$2B for No Product, Robots Under $3K & Australia's Massive Miss
Title: $2B for No Product, Robots Under $3K & Australia's Massive Miss Hosts: Scott Wilcox (W & Elycium) & Matt Perrott (BuildPass) This week, Scotty & Matt explore the seismic shifts in AI talent acquisition, humanoid robots reaching consumer price points, and Australia's untapped potential to...
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Is ARR a Myth?
Episode Snapshot Scott returns from China with a chipped tooth and eye-opening insights into Shenzhen's tech dominance, while Matt reports from Vegas conferences. This week: Zuckerberg's $15B talent grab, Jensen's European roadmap, the reality behind viral ARR growth, and why Tesla's $40K…
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They built a 100-mile highway without humans...
Episode Snapshot Scotty and Matt blitz through the week’s wildest tech headlines—from Google’s eye-watering $400/mo Ultra plan and Perplexity’s Samsung coup to China’s 100-mile, zero-human freeway. Along the way: domain names purchased under the influence, why Notebook LM might replace your MBA,...
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How to make every Australian a MILLIONAIRE
Built 2 Scale — Episode 11 Title: How to make every Australian a MILLIONAIRE Hosts: Scott Wilcox | Matt Perrott Runtime: ≈ 58 min Release Date: 2025-05-30 Quick Synopsis How do you turn $20 trillion of natural resources into $1 million per Aussie? Scott Wilcox & Matt Perrott unpack Google IO…
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Google I/O 2025 AI Bombshell, Nvidia’s $50 Trillion Robot Bet & Coinbase Hacked
Segment Highlights & Takeaways 00:00 - Founder-life Banter 1080p ear-hair, distribution hacks, and why humor matters for reach. 08:30 - Delegation vs “Founder Mode” Why Zuck, Chesky & Musk still get their hands dirty—plus a 3-step audit to decide when you should delegate. 18:55 - Coinbase...
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Full-Stack AI, Zapier MCP & Limitless Pendant | $10 M Boring Tunnels
This week on Built 2 Scale: Scott loses his brand-new Limitless pendant (turns out “Find My” isn’t included), Matt explains why Zapier’s new MCP server might let interns run the office, and the guys dissect YC’s “full-stack AI” memo. They roast Google’s Gemini branding fumble, cheer OpenAI’s...
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Jensen Huang Tops CEOs, Archistar Lands LA, Australia Wary on AI, Productivity Hacks Unpacked
This week on Built 2 Scale, Scott’s caffeine shakes are finally under control, Matt’s new Mac has quit gas-lighting him, and Australia tops a brand-new chart—for fearing AI more than any other country. From a paralyzed creator who edited a YouTube video with his thoughts to Stripe’s surgical…
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The AI Arms Race, Pelosi Act, BMW’s Robotics Shift & Apple’s Comeback?
This week on Built 2 Scale, Scott returns jet-lagged from Texas while Matt battles a fresh Mac-switch identity crisis—yet somehow they still squeeze in everything from congressional insider-trading memes to humanoids doing side-flips. The duo dissects BMW’s surprise deal with China’s DeepSeek,...
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The Blueprint for Scaling: Google’s A2A protocol, GPT-4.1, Memes and more
This week on Built 2 Scale, Matt and Scott unpack the rise of AI agents, lawsuit battles in SaaS, and what Chick-fil-A can teach startups about scale. From Tesla’s self-driving deliveries to Waymo rides in Austin, the boys dive into the golden age of automation and why execution—not just ideas—is...
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The New Construction Era: AI Agents, Robots & Rebuilding Faster
This week on Built 2 Scale, Matt and Scott go deep into the evolving world of robotics, AI innovation, and the future of construction. Fresh from a US trip through LA, San Francisco, and Silicon Valley, Scott shares firsthand insights on wildfire recovery, housing shortages, AI agent frameworks,...
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The Robotics Rundown: AI Agents, Secondary Markets & the Future of Construction
Episode Title The Robotics Rundown: AI Agents, Secondary Markets & the Future of Construction Description In this episode of Built 2 Scale, Matt and Scott dive deep into the rapidly accelerating world of robotics, AI agents, and the new frontier of startup building. From the meteoric rise of…
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From bootstrapped chaos to VC-backed scale, Built 2 Scale is your backstage pass to building high-growth startups at the edge of business, tech, AI, and robotics. Hosted by founders Matt Perrott and Scott Wilcox, this podcast dives into the raw, unfiltered reality of turning big ideas into scalable companies.Each week, we unpack the messy middle—fundraising, hiring, product-market fit, and the growing role of automation and AI in modern business. No hype. No jargon. Just real stories, hard lessons, and sharp insights from founders who are actually in the trenches.Whether you’re building SaaS, hardware, or something the world’s never seen before—if you’re scaling, you’re in the right place.
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