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Built The Hard Way

Built the Hard Way with Josh Pies is a series of founder interviews. Each founder is a seasoned operator of a remarkable and sizable business. These entrepreneurs have skinned their knees and packed dirt into their proverbial wounds as they've muscled up to tackle the challenges they have chosen to encounter. Listeners get the real 411 on how founders think, act and respond. No fluff allowed.

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    Mastering Business Sales: Strategies from Carey Sobel

    Most entrepreneurs spend years building a business but almost no time preparing to sell one.In this episode of Built The Hard Way, Josh sits down with entrepreneur, investor, and M&A advisor Carey Sobel to unpack the lessons learned from building, operating, buying, and selling businesses across multiple industries.From launching a college media company and owning restaurants, bars, and marketing agencies to helping founders navigate business acquisitions and exits today, Kerri shares the wins, mistakes, partnerships, seller-financed deals, and hard-earned lessons that shaped his career.The conversation goes deep into what most owners get wrong when preparing to sell a company, why private equity buyers often have an advantage, how deal structure can matter more than price, and the practical steps every entrepreneur should take long before they ever consider an exit.If you're building a company, thinking about selling one, or simply want to understand how real wealth is created through business ownership, this episode delivers a candid look at the realities behind successful exits. Connect with Joshua Pies 👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuapies/ Connect with Carey Sobel 👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/careysobel/Want to be a guest? Sign up here https://c47films.com/about/bu-business-podcast-network/built-the-hard-way/00:00 The Cost of Business Success 01:21 Founder's Journey: Carrie Sobel's Story 05:01 Navigating Mergers and Acquisitions 10:01 Lessons from the Restaurant Industry 16:30 The Evolution of a Business Mindset 22:14 Future Vision: Exit Planning and Beyond 25:31 Navigating the Business Brokerage Landscape 28:20 Maximizing Business Value for Sale 30:43 The Emotional and Financial Aspects of Selling 35:07 Preparing for a Successful Business Exit 41:10 The Importance of Integrity in Business Transactions 44:15 Strategizing for Future Business Success🔔Follow Built the Hard Way on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeartradio, Deezer and etc., for honest conversations with founders, operators, and builders who know success is never as simple as it looks online.Because behind every great business is a story nobody talks about enough: what it cost to build it. #BuiltTheHardWay #RoofingBusiness #Entrepreneurship #HomeServices #BusinessGrowth #ContractorLife #RecurringRevenue

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    How Roof Maxx Is Changing the Roofing Industry Forever

    Most roofing companies make money replacing roofs. Mike Feazel saw a completely different opportunity.In this episode of Built The Hard Way, Josh Pies sits down with the founder of Roof Maxx to break down how he built one of America’s top roofing companies, exited successfully, then came back to reinvent the industry through roof rejuvenation, maintenance, and recurring revenue.Mike explains why modern shingles fail faster, how Roof Maxx discovered a way to restore aging roofs instead of replacing them, and why the future of roofing may look more like HVAC maintenance than traditional construction.The conversation dives deep into private equity entering home services, scaling dealer networks nationwide, building virtual companies, AI inside operations, consumer trust problems in roofing, and how entrepreneurs can create entirely new categories inside old industries.This episode is packed with real operator insight for contractors, founders, blue-collar entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in scaling a service business the hard way.00:00 – Why most business content hides the real cost 02:12 – Mike Feazel’s roofing journey starts in the 1980s 05:44 – Building one of America’s top roofing contractors 09:53 – Selling the company and struggling with “retirement” 13:01 – Discovering the Roof Maxx opportunity 18:24 – Why modern roofs fail faster today 23:41 – The hidden economics of roof replacement 28:10 – Building a nationwide dealer network 33:26 – How Roof Maxx spends $20M on marketing 37:52 – AI agents, automation, and the future of business 43:30 – Running a fully virtual company across the world 47:05 – Private equity entering the roofing industry 52:08 – Why maintenance is the future of roofing 56:21 – The long-term vision for Roof Maxx 58:11 – Final lessons on entrepreneurship and innovation Connect with Joshua Pies 👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuapies/ Connect with Brandon McCraney 👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonmccraney/Want to be a guest? Sign up here https://c47films.com/about/bu-business-podcast-network/built-the-hard-way/🔔Follow Built the Hard Way on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeartradio, Deezer and etc., for honest conversations with founders, operators, and builders who know success is never as simple as it looks online.Because behind every great business is a story nobody talks about enough: what it cost to build it. #BuiltTheHardWay #RoofingBusiness #Entrepreneurship #HomeServices #BusinessGrowth #ContractorLife #RecurringRevenue

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    He Risked His House to Build a Whiskey Brand

    Most business content only shows the outcome.The revenue. The growth. The success story.But almost nobody talks about the cost.In this first episode of Built the Hard Way, Joshua Pies sits down with Brandon McCraney, founder and master whiskey blender behind Old Raleigh Distillery, to talk about what it really took to build a craft whiskey company from scratch.Brandon shares the full journey: leaving corporate leadership behind, risking his family’s future on an SBA loan, renovating a distillery during COVID, nearly running out of money before opening day, and ultimately building one of the most unique whiskey brands in the country.This conversation goes far beyond bourbon.It’s about entrepreneurship, resilience, creativity, leadership, craftsmanship, community, and the mindset required to keep building when failure would cost you everything.If you’re an entrepreneur, operator, creator, or founder trying to build something meaningful, this episode will resonate deeply.00:00 – Why most business content is misleading 01:25 – Meet Brandon McCraney & Old Raleigh Distillery 04:40 – Chamber of Commerce & community leadership 09:15 – Leaving the corporate world behind 14:52 – Discovering whiskey blending 20:18 – Starting a whiskey company 25:40 – Construction delays during COVID 32:05 – Running out of money before opening 38:40 – Opening Old Raleigh Distillery 44:15 – Building an audience through virtual whiskey classes 49:50 – Founder resilience & adaptability 55:12 – Why Brandon focused on blending instead of distilling 1:00:40 – Creativity, artistry, and long-term visionConnect with Joshua Pies 👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuapies/ Connect with Brandon McCraney 👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonmccraney/Want to be a guest? Explore Built The Hard Way Podcast https://c47films.com/about/bu-business-podcast-network/built-the-hard-way/🔔Follow Built the Hard Way on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeartradio, Deezer and etc., for honest conversations with founders, operators, and builders who know success is never as simple as it looks online.Because behind every great business is a story nobody talks about enough: what it cost to build it. #BuiltTheHardWay #Entrepreneurship #FounderStory #BusinessPodcast #WhiskeyBusiness #StartupJourney #CraftWhiskey

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    Most Business Content Is a Lie | Built The Hard Way

    Most business content shows you the outcome. Not the cost. This show is different. 🔥 🎙 Built The Hard Way Coming soon. 😎

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Built the Hard Way with Josh Pies is a series of founder interviews. Each founder is a seasoned operator of a remarkable and sizable business. These entrepreneurs have skinned their knees and packed dirt into their proverbial wounds as they've muscled up to tackle the challenges they have chosen to encounter. Listeners get the real 411 on how founders think, act and respond. No fluff allowed.

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Joshua Pies

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Built the Hard Way with Josh Pies is a series of founder interviews. Each founder is a seasoned operator of a remarkable and sizable business. These entrepreneurs have skinned their knees and packed dirt into their proverbial wounds as they've muscled up to tackle the challenges they have chosen to...

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