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Burn The Map
by Dan Baird
Crazy ones? You're damn right.Burn the Map is a podcast about the people who can't help but chase obsession. Before the exits. Before the followers. Before anyone asked them to. These are deep-dive interviews with innovators, artists, hackers, tinkerers—people whose dedication to their craft borders on lunacy. We dissect the nuance of what they do, what keeps them going, and why their work matters.Hosted by Dan Baird, this show is a guided tour into the minds of people who do the work that seems illogical—until it isn't.
Episodes
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Burn The Map: AI, Brain Science, and the Future of Longevity with Andrea Olsen
In This Episode: We talk to Andrea Olsen about what happens when neuroscience, machine learning, and longevity research stop being separate lanes and start crashing into each other. Andrea is studying computational neural systems, building Luria Health, and thinking way beyond the usual "AI in...
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Burn The Map: Don't Mistake AI Fluency for Understanding w/ Dr. Anastassia Lauterbach
In This Episode: We talk to D. Anastassia Lauterbach about what it actually takes to think clearly about AI when everyone else is either panicking, posturing, or treating it like magic. She brings a rare mix of operator experience, board-level governance perspective, and deep curiosity about how…
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Burn The Map: Branding That Converts in the Age of AI w/ Kate DiLeo
In This Episode: We talk to Kate DiLeo about why you can't just prompt your way into a brand people actually care about. Kate breaks down the difference between cranking out content and building messaging that genuinely moves people to act. She walks through how she rebuilt her business for the…
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Burn The Map: Turning AI Into Operational Leverage w/ Brad Groux
In This Episode: We talk to Brad Groux about practical AI, automation, and the gap between flashy demos and systems that actually survive real work. As Co-Founder and CEO of Digital Meld, Brad operates like a builder first: cloud, workflow, Microsoft integrations, agent orchestration, and the…
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Burn The Map: The Real Cost of Shipping AI Without Guardrails w/ Gabriela Bar
In This Episode: We talk to Gabriela Bar about why AI governance is no longer a side conversation for lawyers and compliance people—it's becoming the dividing line between products that actually deserve trust and products that are basically theater. Gabriela breaks down what businesses get wrong...
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Burn The Map: AI Is Making SaaS Weird, Pricing Hard, and Authenticity Non-Negotiable w/ Kelly Pronek
In This Episode: We sit down with Kelly Pronek, go-to-market operator, pricing obsessive, and former Pricefx leader, for a conversation that starts with AI tooling and quickly turns into something bigger: how modern software businesses are being rebuilt in real time. Kelly breaks down why pricing...
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Burn The Map: Why AI Won't Fix a Leadership Problem w/ Angeley Mullins
In This Episode: We talk to Angeley Mullins about what it actually takes to scale in a market where the ground keeps moving under your feet. She gets into the brutal gap between founder-led sales and real product-market fit, why most teams think they have a tech problem when they actually have a...
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Burn The Map: Why AI Won't Fix a Leadership Problem w/ Angeley Mullins
In This Episode: We talk to Angeley Mullins about what it actually takes to scale in a market where the ground keeps moving under your feet. She gets into the brutal gap between founder-led sales and real product-market fit, why most teams think they have a tech problem when they actually have a...
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Burn The Map: Let the AI Do the Work, Let Humans Be Human w/ Chris Singel
In This Episode: We talk to Chris Singel about comedy, marketing, AI, media trust, and the quietly unnerving future of work. Chris has spent more than 20 years making people laugh — teaching improv, sketch, and stand-up, and spending nearly a decade at Funny or Die — so he's got a sharp read on...
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Burn The Map: Let the AI Do the Work, Let Humans Be Human w/ Chris Singel
In This Episode: We talk to Chris Singel about comedy, marketing, AI, media trust, and the quietly unnerving future of work. Chris has spent more than 20 years making people laugh — teaching improv, sketch, and stand-up, and spending nearly a decade at Funny or Die — so he's got a sharp read on...
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Burn The Map: Build the Bot, Break the Bot, and Fix the System w/ Bradford Carlton
In This Episode: We talk to Bradford Carlton about what happens when a former attorney gets obsessed with automation, agentic systems, and the uncomfortable truth that most businesses have no idea how their own work actually gets done. Bradford walks through his shift from running a law firm to...
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Burn The Map: Random Acts of Marketing Are Killing Your Growth w/ Michael "Buzz" Buzinski
In This Episode: We talk to Michael "Buzz" Buzinski about what it takes to build a company that can actually grow without the founder becoming the bottleneck, the brand, and the burnout point all at once. Buzz breaks down why so many B2B founder-led businesses get stuck in what he calls random…
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Burn The Map: Digital Twins, Human Judgment, and AI That Actually Works w/ Stephanie Sylvestre
In This Episode: We talk to Stephanie Sylvestre about what it means to build AI that actually helps people instead of just adding more noise, risk, and technical debt to the pile. She's been working in this space long before the current AI hype cycle, and her perspective is refreshingly grounded:...
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Burn The Map: Why Human-First AI Wins w/ Mike Montague
In This Episode: We talk to Mike Montague about what it looks like to use AI without becoming lazy, robotic, or completely unbearable. Mike's the founder of Avenue9, a marketer-who-codes, a broadcaster-turned-podcaster, and one of the few people talking about AI in a way that doesn't sound like...
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Burn The Map: Community, Concrete, and the Coming Automation Wave w/ Matthew Byrd
In This Episode: We talk to Matthew Byrd about what it takes to build a real community around emerging technology instead of just slapping "innovation" on a sales deck and calling it a day. Matthew is the founder of Reality Capture Network (RCN) and the guy behind R-CON, a conference built for…
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Burn The Map: SEO, LLMs, and Calling Bullshit Early w/ Jason Berkowitz
In This Episode: We talk to Jason Berkowitz about the weird, messy overlap between SEO, AI search, and the growing industry of people selling certainty where there really isn't any. Jason breaks down what's actually changing, what's mostly recycled packaging, and why a lot of the current GEO/LLM...
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Burn The Map: Build, Buy, or Get Left Behind w/ Jonathon 'Coach K" Kvarfordt
In This Episode: We talk to Jonathon Kvarfordt, aka Coach K, about what it actually looks like to implement AI in go-to-market without falling for the easy-button fantasy. Jonathon has spent years in sales coaching, GTM strategy, marketing, and AI education, and most recently helped lead...
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Burn The Map: AI, Knowledge Inflation, and the Race to Stay Valuable w/ Tim Kapp
In This Episode: We talk to Tim Kapp about what happens when AI stops being a cool tool and starts becoming an economic event. Tim breaks down his idea of knowledge inflation — the unsettling reality that the thing most of us have been selling for decades, namely knowledge work, is getting…
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Burn The Map: AI Teammates, Human Judgment, and the End of Lazy Management w/ Scott Morris
In This Episode: We talk to Scott Morris about the weird, messy, often badly managed reality of work — and why AI might actually make it better, if we stop using it as an excuse to be lazy thinkers. Scott walked us through the path from LAPD officer to longtime people executive to founder of...
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Burn The Map: Customer First, Technology Last w/ Chris Hood
In This Episode: We talk to Chris Hood about why most companies are nowhere near as customer-focused as they think they are. Chris breaks down the gap between saying you care about customer experience and actually building a business around it — and spoiler: most brands are optimizing for…
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Burn The Map: Builders, Bots, and the Back-Office Mess w/ Grant Fuellenbach
In This Episode: We talk to Grant Fuellenbach about the part of growth most operators ignore until it starts setting money on fire: the back office. Grant works with builders and trades businesses where the work is real, the margins matter, and the systems are often being held together with duct...
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Burn The Map: Killing the Drudgery, AI Plumbing in the Wall, and System of Record w/ Christian Hammer
In This Episode: We sit down with Christian Hammer (Founder & CEO of Ngentix) to talk about the unsexy problem that breaks AI in the real world: execution across messy systems. Christian calls what he's building "AI plumbing in the wall"—the infrastructure layer that connects tools, enforces...
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Burn the Map: AI Agents, Trust, and Why "Do AI" Fails w/ David Espindola
In This Episode: We talk to David Espindola about the part of the AI boom most companies keep trying to skip: the boring, unsexy work that makes AI real—problem definition, strategy, governance, and trust. David's written two books (The Exponential Era and Soulful) and spends his time thinking...
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Burn The Map: Governance Gap, Identity Gap, & Accountability or Bust w/ Allen Martinez
In This Episode: We talk to Allen Martinez—founder at Noble Digital and author of The Brand Experience AI Operating System (BX AI OS)—about why so many "AI initiatives" are basically expensive science projects with a chatbot slapped on top. Allen's take is refreshingly unforgiving: if you don't...
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Burn The Map: Delegation Chaos, Distant Assistants, & The Founder's Escape Hatch w/ Jaime Jay
In This Episode: We talk to Jaime Jay about going from the 82nd Airborne to homelessness (more than once), to building a company that helps founders get their time back without blowing up quality, trust, or accountability. Jaime is a hard-nosed systems thinker and one of the founders of…
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Burn the Map: Clone Your Genius, Survive AI Change, and Middle Management Beware w/ Monica Marquez
In This Episode: We sit down with Monica Marquez, co-founder of Flipwork AI and the unofficial change management therapist every modern exec wishes they had on speed dial. Monica's resume is a "who's who" of places that love an acronym—NYU, Goldman Sachs, EY, Bank of America—so trust me, she's…
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Burn The Map: Holograms, Flat Squirrels, & Why You Really Need Cake on Tuesday w/ Elizabeth Bieniek
In This Episode: We sit down with Elizabeth Bieniek: accidental innovator, corporate plane-repairer at 30,000 feet, and author of Cake on Tuesday, a book for people who like their business advice with more real talk and less corporate fluff. Elizabeth walks us through her unpredictable path—from...
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Burn The Map: Outfoxing Wall Street with Dr. Craig Kaplan Pt.2
In This Episode: We sit down with Dr. Craig A. Kaplan, the PhD-wielding brains behind Predict Wall Street (and, apparently, the patron saint of retail investors everywhere). Craig walks us through 14 years in the financial trenches, building tech to turn the "dumb money" crowd into a collective...
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Burn The Map: Herding AIs, Dodging Doom, and the New Ethics of Intelligence w/ Dr. Craig Kaplan
In This Episode: We sit down with Dr. Craig Kaplan—the guy who was building AI before your favorite "disruptor" learned to tie their shoes. Dr. Kaplan takes us on a wild ride from the OG days of artificial intelligence (when data lived on floppy disks and having a "machine learning" project meant...
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Second Brains, Biometric Socks, and the AI Classroom: Lisa Dieker on the Future of Learning
"I was the daughter of a mechanic and a librarian—I know a thing or two about fixing things, building things, and making sense of way too much information." —Dr. Lisa Dieker In This Episode: We talk to Dr. Lisa Dieker about why the future of learning isn't robots replacing teachers—it's humans…
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Burn The Map: Quivers of Legs and Law Changes w/ Brenda Novak
In This Episode: We talk to Brenda Novak, co-founder of the Connecticut Amputee Network and champion for anyone told they're "too expensive to fix." Brenda breaks down her wild ride from business school grad to accidental activist, gives us the unvarnished scoop on the cutthroat world of…
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Burn The Map: Book People, Broken Systems, and Why Kids Are Getting Dumber w/ Rae Foote
"If you're worried your kid hates reading, maybe start by showing them you can sit down with a damn book. Kids do what we do, not what we say." —Rae Foote In This Episode: We talk to Rae Foote, the unicorn who went from running logistics in military manufacturing (yes, actual missiles) to…
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Burn The Map: Joel McKay Smith — Networking Maestro, Rural Champion, and Master of Community Capital
In This Episode: We talk to Joel McKay Smith—a guy whose "Rolodex" literally stress-tested the Wrench platform—about why real power isn't in the LinkedIn follower count, but in the relationships you actually maintain. From rural Utah dairy farms to industrial parks, Joel's journey is a hilarious,...
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Burn The Map: Ask Me Anything with Dan & Gabi
In This Episode: We sit down with Gabi Barragan—strategic advisor, organizational change whisperer, and the go-to for real talk about taming the AI beast in business. Gabi ditches the 'thought leader' theatrics and gets honest about what it really takes for companies to stop talking about AI...
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Burn The Map: Doors, Data, and Digital Twins with Timber Barker
In This Episode: We talk to Timber Barker, founder/CEO of BOOM Interactive, about turning flat floor plans into living, AI-powered digital twins—and the not-so-glamorous reality of building the company that does it. From selling his truck to keep the lights on to landing partnerships with NVIDIA...
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Burn the Map: Are You Even Using Your Data? Drew Phillips on the Realities of Content & Chaos
"Don't tell me about your fancy martech stack if you can't tell me where your own customer data lives. Spoiler: if your dashboards are a mess, your personalization is, too." —Drew Phillips In This Episode: We talk to Drew Phillips—part globe-trotting data wrangler, part content whisperer—about…
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Burn The Map: Home Hacks & Human Hacks for building a Healthier, Smarter World w/ Matt Fischer
"Building the future is messy—so is your garage, probably. But at least the future will breathe better." —Matt Fischer In This Episode: We corral Matt Fischer—startup troublemaker, AI obsessive, and the guy who actually uses data for good (no, seriously)—for a whirlwind tour through everything…
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Burn The Map: White Collar Hunger Games with Gabi Barragan
In This Episode: We sit down with Gabi Barragan, Wrench.AI's Co-Founder and CMO (and, let's be real, the original "Gabi Filter" for anyone who couldn't write their way out of a Slack thread). Gabi gets brutally honest about the future of work, why most people are totally unprepared for the AI…
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Burn The Map: Steve Eror — AI Agents, Skydiving, and Why Nap Pods Are Dead
In This Episode: We sit down with Steve Eror—skydiver, AI troublemaker, and the guy who'll absolutely call out your nap pod culture for what it is: overhyped and overdue for extinction. Steve walks us through his wild career pivot from Wall Street's soul-sucking grind (hello, Merrill Lynch and...
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Burn The Map: Chasing Chaos, Curating Creativity, and the Relentless Art of AI Video w/ Luka Tisler
"Limitations? Please. The only thing that matters now is the idea—because with today's AI, you can create anything. The rest is just noise." —Luka Tisler In This Episode: We sit down with Luka Tisler, the Slovenian mastermind who treats AI video tools like his personal playground. Luka's journey…
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Burn The Map: DIY Podcasting Power with Anika Jackson
"Don't spend $25,000 building a studio before you've recorded your first episode. Please. Use your laptop, a good mic, and just get started." —Anika Jackson In This Episode: We talk to Anika Jackson about what it actually takes to go from "hey, let's start a podcast!" to running a slick,...
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Burn the Map: Psilocybin, Law, and Life with Bridger Jensen
"Every human is entitled to utter syllables and words and think thoughts and commune with their own highest power. That is… certainly an inalienable right." —Bridger Lee Jensen In This Episode: We sit down with Bridger Lee Jensen, founder of the world's first federally protected psilocybin...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Crazy ones? You're damn right.Burn the Map is a podcast about the people who can't help but chase obsession. Before the exits. Before the followers. Before anyone asked them to. These are deep-dive interviews with innovators, artists, hackers, tinkerers—people whose dedication to their craft borders on lunacy. We dissect the nuance of what they do, what keeps them going, and why their work matters.Hosted by Dan Baird, this show is a guided tour into the minds of people who do the work that seems illogical—until it isn't.
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